flc Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 see what i am saying, it is differant everywhere. If in your own specific country the average is 5.9 then most of the girls would be just under in that country, if in another country the average is 6.2 then most prob the average girl would be just under that. know what i mean, it is irrelevant when it comes to love as love is blind allegedly Certianly true but I was talking about US Caucasian men which I am making an assumption the two whiners are and certainly the market they are playing in. Thye could certainly head over to Indonesia or Japan if they want to be taller than the average population of men.
mem11363 Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I always knew I was noticeably below average in height. I focused on 3 things to compensate for that: 1 social skills 2 fitness level 3 sexual skill 4 income And yes I had a conscious focus on those four things. Item 1 and 4 were the hardest and took the longest. And item 4 wasn't any big deal when I met my wife BUT my career was coming along nicely which did effect my confidence level and therefore helped a lot with 1. To be fair item 4 has only had one really substantive impact on my quality of life - other then obvious material things. It completely removed financial stress from our marriage - which when combined with item 1 - made a big difference in how good our physical relationship was. 5"9" actually
worldcavedin Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Certianly true but I was talking about US Caucasian men which I am making an assumption the two whiners are and certainly the market they are playing in. Thye could certainly head over to Indonesia or Japan if they want to be taller than the average population of men. haha, very funny and true, i might just go there myself, but to be honest i dont care that i am short gets me in the juvenile gate at the soccer and people always think you are younger than what you are
Author Jersey Shortie Posted January 18, 2010 Author Posted January 18, 2010 I always knew I was noticeably below average in height. I focused on 3 things to compensate for that: 1 social skills 2 fitness level 3 sexual skill 4 income And yes I had a conscious focus on those four things. Item 1 and 4 were the hardest and took the longest. And item 4 wasn't any big deal when I met my wife BUT my career was coming along nicely which did effect my confidence level and therefore helped a lot with 1. To be fair item 4 has only had one really substantive impact on my quality of life - other then obvious material things. It completely removed financial stress from our marriage - which when combined with item 1 - made a big difference in how good our physical relationship was. I would say this is very insightful and spot on and most women would take a man that had confident social skills and rocked in the bedroom then one that was mearly tall.
OpenGL Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I would say this is very insightful and spot on and most women would take a man that had confident social skills and rocked in the bedroom then one that was mearly tall. The problem is most women will shut you out before getting to know all of that about you if you don't meet their physical requirements.
cognac Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 The problem is most women will shut you out before getting to know all of that about you if you don't meet their physical requirements. Absolutely. I know for sure that outside of my height and maybe lack of car, I am the perfect man. I know what women want (outside of the physical) and respond to, I embody all of it times 1000. I've gotten 1 or 2 women here and there to sleep with me because of it, but my dating pool is still really tiny and it's really disheartening. The only reason I'm not a virgin at 5'7 is because of my perfect and brilliant personality. Even then, being perfect, entertaining, and brilliant 24 hours a day when I'm with a woman can be exhausting, even the best run out of steam and material sometimes. Sometimes I just want to be quiet and let the girl do the talking and entertaining, but I can never have that luxury , simply because I'm not 6 feet tall most women don't think I'm worthy of their best side.
TheLoneSock Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I said it once and I'll say it again. James Dean was 5'7" lol.
TheLoneSock Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Absolutely. I know for sure that outside of my height and maybe lack of car, I am the perfect man. I know what women want (outside of the physical) and respond to, I embody all of it times 1000. I've gotten 1 or 2 women here and there to sleep with me because of it, but my dating pool is still really tiny and it's really disheartening. The only reason I'm not a virgin at 5'7 is because of my perfect and brilliant personality. Even then, being perfect, entertaining, and brilliant 24 hours a day when I'm with a woman can be exhausting, even the best run out of steam and material sometimes. Sometimes I just want to be quiet and let the girl do the talking and entertaining, but I can never have that luxury , simply because I'm not 6 feet tall most women don't think I'm worthy of their best side. I hope this was sarcastic.
cognac Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I hope this was sarcastic. I know for a fact that if I was 6 feet tall I would be able to have any woman I want.
Payden Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I'm 5'7 so I guess I'm not a shortie...hahhahaha
cognac Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I hope you don't think it's remotely surprising that you have a thousand woman-bashing jokes at your disposal . You've been all over this board claiming women in general are less intelligent, less emotionally and mentally developed, have less depth, and are generally less worthwhile human beings than men...and you can't take a shoe-size joke? Maybe you need to take your ball and go home. Meanwhile you've conveniently ignored, yet again, any evidence handed to you that contradicts your theory, and if called out on that directly, either answered only half of a post OR called the woman a liar. Your debate techniques suck. So why do you get all offended at the thought of a woman joke, which can actually be pretty funny and clever, but think a short joke, which are usually infantile and not very clever, is hilarious and OK?
Explorer Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 It's very clear that in the real world taller men get more women and it comes down to how we're naturally programmed. The man stands for the authoritatian figure while the woman the supportive. You would feel a little strange if you had to look down at your parents and ask for permission for something when you were younger. You wouldn't want to respect their demands as much. However, that's not to say a short man can't get a date. I see it all the time. And with beautiful women. Yes, in most cases they will have to work a little harder to catch their initial attention, but it's still very do-able. Don't be bitter because a woman has a particular taste. It's the same thing with a man wanting a shorter woman as a woman wanting a taller man.
TheLoneSock Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 It's the same thing with a man wanting a shorter woman as a woman wanting a taller man. IMO it's the same as a man wanting a slim/fit woman over a fat woman.
cognac Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 It's very clear that in the real world taller men get more women and it comes down to how we're naturally programmed. The man stands for the authoritatian figure while the woman the supportive. You would feel a little strange if you had to look down at your parents and ask for permission for something when you were younger. You wouldn't want to respect their demands as much.[/Quote] Where do people get this from? My mom is a lot shorter than I am, but I always respected her authority and to an extent, still do! (although at 21 she doesn't really command me to do anything anymore) On the other hand, my friends parents are both pretty tall and he ignores their wishes and demands in ways that make even crazy authority haters like myself cringe. Being tall has very little to do with authority. In fact, the authority figures I know, like piglice tend to be my height or just a couple of inches taller. The biggest pushovers I've ever met who commanded the least respect have also been not just tall, but above average in height (like the awkward nerd guy from Freaks and Geeks) . Don't be bitter because a woman has a particular taste. It's the same thing with a man wanting a shorter woman as a woman wanting a taller man. [/Quote] Another thing I never felt before. I have found everything from really petite to really tall girls incredibly sexy, and I didn't measure their femininity or looks by how tall or short they were. This is why I (and most guys who are not tall) react as dumfounded and unable to understand this "preference", because I have never even noticed the height of friends, family or potential partners until I started to interact with women during high school. I don't know how so many women can attribute so many traits like domination, intelligence, heroism, authority, etc to someone simply because their head is closer to the ceiling. Especially with all the goofy and awkward tall guys out there. There are a few 5'10 girls who go into my job sometimes and they seem like girls I would like, but there is no point in even trying. I don't try not because I have a problem with them being tall (it barely registers) , but rather because I know almost for sure that they have a problem with mine if its in a romantic context. Pretty idiotic but hey what can you do.
allina Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Absolutely. I know for sure that outside of my height and maybe lack of car, I am the perfect man. You must be kidding. Your attitude is downright frightening
AD1980 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 It's very clear that in the real world taller men get more women and it comes down to how we're naturally programmed. The man stands for the authoritatian figure while the woman the supportive. You would feel a little strange if you had to look down at your parents and ask for permission for something when you were younger. You wouldn't want to respect their demands as much. However, that's not to say a short man can't get a date. I see it all the time. And with beautiful women. Yes, in most cases they will have to work a little harder to catch their initial attention, but it's still very do-able. Don't be bitter because a woman has a particular taste. It's the same thing with a man wanting a shorter woman as a woman wanting a taller man. I have no problem with women who want a man taller then them but when some women demand to be towered over or wnot date soemobdy becasue theyre near that Mans height in 6 inch heels its a little much
Explorer Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Where do people get this from? You were speaking in general terms about woman's height preferences so I was explaining to you why they exist, also in general terms..
allina Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I have no problem with women who want a man taller then them but when some women demand to be towered over or wnot date soemobdy becasue theyre near that Mans height in 6 inch heels its a little much I still don't see why you or anyone feels that it's business who someone is or isn't attracted to. If a woman who is 5'1 refuses to date any man who is under 6'5 then so what?! Let it go. It's not up to you to decide which standards are reasonable and which are not.
Explorer Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I have no problem with women who want a man taller then them but when some women demand to be towered over or wnot date soemobdy becasue theyre near that Mans height in 6 inch heels its a little much It's usally max 3 in heels and I think towering is an exaggeration. I think they just want to have the option to wear what they want and still be taller than their mate. I seriously doubt most women would have a drastic opinion of a guy who was 2" in taller than her in heels vs a guy who was 4" taller.
AD1980 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 It's usally max 3 in heels and I think towering is an exaggeration. I think they just want to have the option to wear what they want and still be taller than their mate. I seriously doubt most women would have a drastic opinion of a guy who was 2" in taller than her in heels vs a guy who was 4" taller. I have no problems with preferences at all,i just cant stand women who complain that there are no good men yet wouldnt give a guy a chance because of a shoe..
cognac Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 IMO it's the same as a man wanting a slim/fit woman over a fat woman. Not really, because women want a slim/fit man too! The overweight men can lose the weight, or get with other overweight people. Ditto for women. The definition of "average build" for a woman is getting more liberal and liberal every day by the way, so to be considered so fat you are unattractive to most men you got to really have given up on yourself. The height phenonmenon has no equal. It is in its dimension of stupidity. I still don't see why you or anyone feels that it's business who someone is or isn't attracted to. If a woman who is 5'1 refuses to date any man who is under 6'5 then so what?! Let it go. It's not up to you to decide which standards are reasonable and which are not. [/Quote] It's my business because the stupidity of those people negatively effects my own life. A 5'1 having a "preference" for guys 6'5, is objectively retarded. Women go with the masses, if they have this "preference" it's because other people say its great and ok to have, but if people started to say it wasn't ok women would for sure change. If the TV told women guys who are visibly short can be violent and dominant outlaws, they would probably start dating short guys. Why is smoking banned in virtually all indoor spaces? What business is it of non-smokers if I like to smoke? Well, it becomes their business when they smell and breath in my smoke.
allina Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 It's my business because the stupidity of those people negatively effects my own life. A 5'1 having a "preference" for guys 6'5, is objectively retarded. Women go with the masses, if they have this "preference" it's because other people say its great and ok to have, but if people started to say it wasn't ok women would for sure change. If the TV told women guys who are visibly short can be violent and dominant outlaws, they would probably start dating short guys. Why is smoking banned in virtually all indoor spaces? What business is it of non-smokers if I like to smoke? Well, it becomes their business when they smell and breath in my smoke. Well, to point of the obvious, height preferences don't endanger the healthy of bystanders or cost millions of health care dollars You have one of most repulsive attitudes I have come across here, I don't know if I should pity or dislike you. Trust me, height has nothing to do with your problems Plus, if your opinion of women is this low why do you even care about them not wanting you?
cognac Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Well, to point of the obvious, height preferences don't endanger the healthy of bystanders or cost millions of health care dollars [/Quote] Yes they do. They endanger the health of men probably more than second-hand smoke does. [COLOR=#800080]http://www.health.am/psy/more/short_height_linked_to_increased_suicide_risk/[/COLOR] On factors could also be important. Marriage, the study authorthe other hand, adulthood s point out, tends to reduce the risk of suicide, and shorter men may be less likely to marry[...][/Quote] You have one of most repulsive attitudes I have come across here, I don't know if I should pity or dislike you. Trust me, height has nothing to do with your problems [/Quote] LOL. My attitude has more or less shifted around throughout my life and today I am the cynical bastard because of what I see in every day life. Some people call it pessimism, but they're just the cold hard facts that an observant tall guy will agree with wholeheartedly as well. Sometimes what people call "pessimism" is just the ugly truth: http://www.livemint.com/articles/2007/12/14130459/The-office-pessimists-are-ofte.html Plus, if your opinion of women is this low why do you even care about them not wanting you? [/Quote] I do have needs you know, and I don't want to get de-balled because the thought of hairy tits and a mickey mouse voice don't appeal to me.
D-Lish Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 5'10" + is ideal for me, because I am 5'8". I don't discriminate against a guys height if he is cute, thoughtful and kind, but under 5'10". I work with a guy that is about 5'5"- and he's hot, awesome, smart and cool- I'd go out with him in a second...if he was straight:lmao:
mem11363 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 D-Lish, What a great post. I think you represent many many women. So you have a height preference. I am fairly convinced that Cognac and OpenGL meet women routinely who WOULD give them a chance if they weren't angry/bitter/cynical people. My wife ideally wanted to marry a guy 5'10" - 4 inches taller then me. And it was also true that she was open to giving me a shot. I have also read all this stuff in business journals about how rampant height discrimination is at work. Out of 12 different bosses at 4 different companies I had ONE boss who blatantly discriminated on the basis of height. He actually said to my colleague (who was 6' - that all men under 5'9" were head cases). So big deal one boss out of 12. He (the discriminating boss) quickly got fired for sexually harassing the Presidents secretary and he had zero impact on my career. Everybody else just cared about performance. The other 11 treated me great and I tried to do right by them as well. As for the guys who are so angry about this. They are in their own way. TONS of below average height guys find ways to compensate and end up with great mates/jobs lives. My height is part of who I am - but it doesn't limit me and it sure comes in handy when I fly coach to Asia..... 5'10" + is ideal for me, because I am 5'8". I don't discriminate against a guys height if he is cute, thoughtful and kind, but under 5'10". I work with a guy that is about 5'5"- and he's hot, awesome, smart and cool- I'd go out with him in a second...if he was straight:lmao:
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