Dating Karma coming back to bite you in the Ass

[paddington bear]

Was reading another thread and the notion of karma came up.

 

Anyone truly believe this, or have evidence of this in relation to dating?

 

Unfortunately, from what I've seen those who deserve what's coming to them just carry on as normal with no reprecussions from karma, or God, or whatever higher source you might care to believe in - in fact many of them are often rewarded further for bad behaviour towards others.

 

I love the concept of karma (particularly when I feel hard done by!!!) but life doesn't work that way - or does it? Anyone any examples of karma in action?

[mortensorchid]

I do have an example of karma in action. At least, it was just a reflection of how when a person is a psycho their bad behavior will show itself appropo...

 

Two summers ago, I was with this real psycho. We were only together for a few weeks, I barely knew him. Then one day out of the blue I get a text message from him to check my email. It was the break up email. He said something about how two past bad relationships had scarred him for life and he was a mess. I was angry that he took such a coward's way out. On top of that, he lied to me. He immediately started going out with my friend. I didn't let her know of it, but over time she began to sense that something was not right when I was in the room. When she asked if he used to go out with me, he denied it, then eventually told her that he had been with me.

 

Then Thanksgiving Day 2008. Depending on whose version of the story you choose to believe what happened that day, there was a fight between the two of them. My friend ended up being launched off his front porch and the left side of her face was swollen shut. Turns out he was a jealous, possessive man who wouldn't let her out of his sight for a minute. He called her constantly, tried to break into her house, stole her dog and her cell phone to tell all her guy friends to stay away from her because she was his. Took a while for her to make him go away. Then he started harassing ME because I was the cause of all this! I blocked him on all available online systems.

 

Karma? Well, it's kind of hilarious really. When a psycho does the rejecting he is full of himself, when a psycho is rejected he goes insane.

[littlewhiterose]

Was reading another thread and the notion of karma came up.

 

Anyone truly believe this, or have evidence of this in relation to dating?

 

Unfortunately, from what I've seen those who deserve what's coming to them just carry on as normal with no reprecussions from karma, or God, or whatever higher source you might care to believe in - in fact many of them are often rewarded further for bad behaviour towards others.

 

I love the concept of karma (particularly when I feel hard done by!!!) but life doesn't work that way - or does it? Anyone any examples of karma in action?

 

Sir Isaac Newton said it best- ''To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction".

 

In terms of dating, I have seen it happen. Someone I hadn't seen a very long time took advantage of a certain situation by running his mouth & lying- in order to boost his image. It was so beyond ridiculous that I didn't do anything to refute it. A couple of years later, his name got dragged in the mud, in the media in a pretty embarrassing way that a lot (A LOT) of people were talking about. I'm sure a couple of people were wondering what's up with me choosing not to retaliate. But I just can't. I know Karma's a boomerang.

 

Everything has it's rightful place in an equation so I try not to stick around to find out once someone's wronged me, but sometimes karma is cool enough to go out of it's way & show you your 'just desserts'. That's when you'd find me doing cartwheels

Edited January 17, 2010 by littlewhiterose

[TaraMaiden]

Sir Isaac Newton said it best- ''To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction".

This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Karma.

 

 

In terms of dating, I have seen it happen. Someone I hadn't seen a very long time took advantage of a certain situation by running his mouth & lying- in order to boost his image. It was so beyond ridiculous that I didn't do anything to refute it. A couple of years later, his name got dragged in the mud, in the media in a pretty embarrassing way that a lot (A LOT) of people were talking about. I'm sure a couple of people were wondering what's up with me choosing not to retaliate. But I just can't. I know Karma's a boomerang.

 

Everything has it's rightful place in an equation so I try not to stick around to find out once someone's wronged me, but sometimes karma is cool enough to go out of it's way & show you your 'just desserts'. That's when you'd find me doing cartwheels

 

Ok, first of all people, you need to understand two things:

there is this weird impression or view people have of this so-called 'Dating Karma 'coming back to bite you in the ass'...which is a pile of bull, because it's not really Karma...

And there is the bona-fide, actual understanding of karma, as it should be, and is taught and understood, by those who know what they're actually talking about.

 

Karma is purely a process.

It doesn't judge, it doesn't condemn, it doesn't criticise, and it doesn't exact retribution

Karma is what it is.

In fact it is, to elaborate, what Buddhists call "Action-Seed, Result".

Your Action (be it a mental thought, a verbal word or a physical action) is the seed which eventually brings about result.

 

But all karma is born in the mind.

Whatever you think, develops its own Karma. A thought creates Karma.

Then transcribe this thought into a verbal action, and whatever you say, generates its own Karma.

But then take this to a physically active level, and this too, will have the consequence of nourishing karma.

 

if you want to know what you once were, and where your karma brought you, look at who you are and what has evolved as a result of your choices, today.

 

If you want to know what you will be and how things will go, have a look at how your Mind is working, and choices you are making today, for all your tomorrows.

Edited January 17, 2010 by TaraMaiden

[DiscoChick]

I do have an example of karma in action. At least, it was just a reflection of how when a person is a psycho their bad behavior will show itself appropo...

 

Two summers ago, I was with this real psycho. We were only together for a few weeks, I barely knew him. Then one day out of the blue I get a text message from him to check my email. It was the break up email. He said something about how two past bad relationships had scarred him for life and he was a mess. I was angry that he took such a coward's way out. On top of that, he lied to me. He immediately started going out with my friend. I didn't let her know of it, but over time she began to sense that something was not right when I was in the room. When she asked if he used to go out with me, he denied it, then eventually told her that he had been with me.

 

Then Thanksgiving Day 2008. Depending on whose version of the story you choose to believe what happened that day, there was a fight between the two of them. My friend ended up being launched off his front porch and the left side of her face was swollen shut. Turns out he was a jealous, possessive man who wouldn't let her out of his sight for a minute. He called her constantly, tried to break into her house, stole her dog and her cell phone to tell all her guy friends to stay away from her because she was his. Took a while for her to make him go away. Then he started harassing ME because I was the cause of all this! I blocked him on all available online systems.

 

Karma? Well, it's kind of hilarious really. When a psycho does the rejecting he is full of himself, when a psycho is rejected he goes insane.

 

Wow...if that had been me, I don't know who would have killed that guy first: me or my brother and cousins.

 

I don't believe in karma. Usually when someone talks to me about karma, they are hoping for something bad to happen to someone that wronged them. I do believe "two wrongs don't make a right." Blame my religious beliefs, but I am a forgiving person, and I have strong faith that God takes care of what is His. I don't need a circle of "good" or "bad" to make myself feel better about life. I search for and exude positivity. There are times when I fail, but I accept that I am only human and continue my pursuit.

[TaraMaiden]

That's because the people who have spoken to you about karma have been talking out of their asses....

 

When you finally talk to someone who knows about Karma, first of all, they won't be hoping for anything, and secondly they'll tell you like it is, not like they think it should be.

But then, I don't believe in god, either, so I would say that probably makes it even!

[alphamale]

yes, what goes around comes around it just depends on when

[OnlyJake]

Was reading another thread and the notion of karma came up.

 

Anyone truly believe this, or have evidence of this in relation to dating?

 

Unfortunately, from what I've seen those who deserve what's coming to them just carry on as normal with no reprecussions from karma, or God, or whatever higher source you might care to believe in - in fact many of them are often rewarded further for bad behaviour towards others.

 

I love the concept of karma (particularly when I feel hard done by!!!) but life doesn't work that way - or does it? Anyone any examples of karma in action?

 

I think that eventually their actions will bite them in the ass. I mean, if a guy is a liar, for example, maybe he gets away with it with you because you let him. But then eventually his lying is going to get him in trouble in some other way.

[DiscoChick]

That's because the people who have spoken to you about karma have been talking out of their asses....

 

When you finally talk to someone who knows about Karma, first of all, they won't be hoping for anything, and secondly they'll tell you like it is, not like they think it should be.

But then, I don't believe in god, either, so I would say that probably makes it even!

 

You're right. If you could speak to one of my female friends, you'd probably be amazed by the insane things they believe. One told me they don't care if their husband cheats as long as he pays the bills...what if he gives her an [incurable] STD? And one friend believes no man under 30 is capable of monogamy. She expects men to cheat on her and looks forward to cheating on them. That's her view of karma.

[TaraMaiden]

You'll also hear stupid dumb people saying really stupid dumb things about a whole nation suffering (Tsunamis, earthquakes) saying that their Karma brought this about.

It's dangerous and highly inaccurate, totally speculative rubbish.

 

Just one word - The Buddha (he's my dude!) - said that people speculating in such ways was relatively brainless - or could lead to insanity - because it's absolutely, completely impossible to work out how karma on such a massive scale is ever supposed to work.

If at all.

he said the only person's karma you should actually ever be concerne with - is your own.

The only thing you can ever truly know, is what YOU are thinking/saying/doing, and with what motive, to what end and with which agenda.

The buck stops with you, as it should.

Forget what other people are thinking/saying/doing. Whatever happens in that direction, is whatever happens.

That's not your concern.

You are.

[paddington bear]

That's interesting Taramaiden, I didn't actually know that I was using karma incorrectly - and I hate doing things like that!!!

 

But, for the purposes of this thread, then let's call it: what goes around comes around.

 

Strange that I mentioned this (incorrect use of the word) karma concept today, an ex of mine rang and his commitment-phobic behaviour towards me has actually bounced back on him in a bad way and he's totally, utterly miserable (I don't actually wish this on the poor guy, he's having a really bad time).

 

When you're angry and pissed off at being hard done by, it is a comforting concept that someone will get their comeuppance one day - but then again, as mentioned Tsunamis, AIDS etc do not equate to some kind of punishing energy directed at large groups of innocent people.

 

Anyway, keep 'em coming, if there's any more anecdotes, it's interesting to read.

[littlewhiterose]

This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Karma.

 

I have to respectfully disagree. Karma has to do with the laws of Quantum Mechanics or Determinism . And every action being a result of prior occurances. (google or wiki it for more info). To despute that, desputes existance. Good begets good. Bad begets bad. It applies to everything.

[TaraMaiden]

right..."good begets good, bad begets bad", Hmmmm......so, how can it have an equal and opposite reaction?

[TheBigQuestion]

In my experience, what goes around does not usually come around. And if it does, it usually takes too long and it pisses me off.

[TaraMaiden]

Yes. This is the problem. people view Karma as being some form of vengeance, revenge or come-uppance. They want a result, and they want it now!

I see your point, but as I've explained, Karma as specifically intended in this thread, doesn't work that way, and isn't "intended" to bring anybody a morally satisfying result.

 

As a Lama said, "karma basically means you don't get away with ANYTHING. And it ALL counts......"

 

But viewed as a working judicial energy....? Sorry. Nope. not quite the way it evolves, I'm afraid......

[paddington bear]

As a Lama said, "karma basically means you don't get away with ANYTHING. And it ALL counts......"

 

But viewed as a working judicial energy....? Sorry. Nope. not quite the way it evolves, I'm afraid......

 

Damn!

 

There is this one person, who...well let's just say they sooo deserve what's coming to them, but I have a sneaking suspicion they will carry on oblivious to the trail of destruction and misery that they bring to everyone who comes in contact with them and the worst thing is...much as you like to hope that the world is somehow a fair place and what goes around comes around, much of the time it doesn't...but I was just hoping for some evidence to the contrary.

 

However, and I'm ashamed to admit it, when deserving parties do finally get their comeuppance I do indulge in some schadenfreude, I feel like justice has been served which gives me a warm feeling inside that life can, sometimes be fair. What a revengeful, nasty piece of work I am.

[TaraMaiden]

Damn!

 

There is this one person, who...well let's just say they sooo deserve what's coming to them, but I have a sneaking suspicion they will carry on oblivious to the trail of destruction and misery that they bring to everyone who comes in contact with them and the worst thing is...much as you like to hope that the world is somehow a fair place and what goes around comes around, much of the time it doesn't...but I was just hoping for some evidence to the contrary.

Well, the only crumb of comfort I can give you, is that this person may be what is classified as a "Hungry Ghost".... Picture a short, squat being, with a highly swollen belly, and a long and very thin narrow neck, and a huge mouth....

These "Hungry Ghosts are voracious... for self-satisfaction, success, self-aggrandisement and egotistic nourishment.... they just can't get enough of it, and grab great mouthfuls of ego-boosting stuff.... but they will, indeed, never get enough. They're never satisfied, they're constantly seeking to appease their own 'hunger for fame' and gain wonderful things they feel will validate them.... which eventually pass, expire and turn into crap.... and so they want more, and more, and more.....but their long, thin necks can't take it in fast enough, and their empty bellies are left craving more.....

And this is how they suffer. They generate what they believe is happiness for themselves, but in fact, it's a false happiness....

They seem happy.

They'll say they're happy.

But they're not.

 

However, and I'm ashamed to admit it, when deserving parties do finally get their comeuppance I do indulge in some schadenfreude, I feel like justice has been served which gives me a warm feeling inside that life can, sometimes be fair. What a revengeful, nasty piece of work I am.

 

Ah.

Now.

If you ascribe to Karma, as I have explained it, then you must be watchful of your thoughts, because such thoughts - that rejoice in the misfortune of others - are not conducive to generating positive Karma, but will infact perpetuate and create negative karma.

 

Of course, if you DON'T ascribe to karma as I have explained it - then, forget it.

Carry on.....!

[mortensorchid]

Wow...if that had been me, I don't know who would have killed that guy first: me or my brother and cousins.

 

The first thought that went through everyone's head, I assure you, was to round up a posse and go beat him senseless. However, it didn't happen as no one wanted to spend the night in jail over it. Looking back though, depending on his level of crazy that he would take it to, it might have been worth it. But, that's the past.

[Crazy Magnet]

I'll just get a voo doo doll and settle things that way! lol

[TaraMaiden]

Yes, but get the pins with coloured heads... it looks prettier, and you can make colour patterns.

 

If there's gonna be trouble, make it decorative.....

[meerkat stew]

Do people tend to repeat mistakes until they get bitten unless they learn from these mistakes? Absolutely. Will we be around to see it, or even care by that point? Hopefully not.

 

Treating someone badly is bad karma. Feeling pleasure due to the failures of an ex is bad karma too though, and so is killing aliens in a video game.

[Mr White]

I have a huge problem with the concept of carma (or hell and heaven, for that matter). It basically means that people need an incentives to behave in a decent and moral fashion. So you try not to screw up or else your karma will bite you in the azz (or you will burn in hell). I don't see anything spiritual and enlightened about that.

 

Life is unfair, so I'm not too worried if everybody gets what they deserve. I haven't (neither the good, nor the bad).

[TaraMaiden]

I have a huge problem with the concept of carma

I think you mean 'Karma'.... if you're gonna diss it, at least spell it right....

 

(or hell and heaven, for that matter).

They're not places, they're states of mind.... we make them ourselves, right here, right now....

 

It basically means that people need an incentives to behave in a decent and moral fashion.

You need an incentive?

Really?

So wanting to be nice to somebody doesn't come naturally to you? You have to be prompted or encouraged to be kind?

And if you do something deliberately nasty to somebody, there isn't something in your mind that says "Actually, that really wasn't very nice of you.... was it really necessary....?"

 

So you try not to screw up or else your karma will bite you in the azz (or you will burn in hell). I don't see anything spiritual and enlightened about that.

 

Have you actually read any of this thread? because if you read back, that's not what Karma does at all.

Karma is simply a process.....

Oh look, I can't be asked.

Just read the thread, and whatever you don't understand, I'll happily clarify.

 

 

Life is unfair, so I'm not too worried if everybody gets what they deserve. I haven't (neither the good, nor the bad).

Yes you have.

You don't think you have, but you have.

Like now.

You're talking out the back of your head, and being ridiculous.

And I'm telling you - you're talking a pile of shyte, and being ridiculous.

 

You should be feeling a bit irritated by now.

 

That's Karma.

Edited January 27, 2010 by TaraMaiden

[DiscoChick]

 

Why am I just noticing Xena in your avatar?

 

I still find karma a hard concept to believe. It's just natural occurrences. A person sets himself up for something good/bad to happen. Good things happen to bad people; bad things happen to good people. That contradicts karma. I don't believe.

[TaraMaiden]

No it doesn't. That's because it's not the only factor to be taken into consideration. there are many other things to look at.

 

The problem I have, is that this isn't the Religion and spirituality forum.

This is 'Dating'. So I'm really not going to discuss the finer points of Karma as part of a spiritual (Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh) concept. It's not the place.

if you'd like to delve further, let me know. if not, I'll leave it simply at that.

But it's a little more complex than what you say.

 

There again, isn't that always the case....?