Author alphamale Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Plus guys who want to kiss on the first date are too much in a rush. They are playing a numbers game. rejection is the key to success my friend just the fact that i went in for the kiss says a lot to her...it says i am not "nice guy", i'm assertive and not shy, i don't want "friends", etc... Edited January 17, 2010 by alphamale
hopesndreams Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 If she was interested, she would have returned the kiss. It is just a kiss after all, right? I would never return a kiss for a guy I didn't fancy. Ick. Goodbye Dawn, hello Palmolive.
Satisfaction Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) So not being a nice guy is a good thing?You are sounding like one of those PUA guys. You would have got the same vibe across if you held her hands and looked in her eyes for too long. Or pushing her hair back in place while saying something complimentary. Watching her blush, cringe or forgetting the end of her sentence would have been all the confirmation(or rejection) you needed. Edited January 17, 2010 by Satisfaction I may have been rude
Author alphamale Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 If she was interested, she would have returned the kiss. indeed You are sounding like one of those PUA guys.
tami-chan Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 phew...you are just a series of short lived "relationships" (they are not even relationships, really...)... is this just how you want it?
Author alphamale Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 phew...you are just a series of short lived "relationships" (they are not even relationships, really...)... is this just how you want it? i'm just dating different chicks until i find a mutual match....isn't that how it works?
tami-chan Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 i'm just dating different chicks until i find a mutual match....isn't that how it works? I wouldn't know...I think your encounters are shallow. But I do not know you...maybe I am wrong.
Choboto Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 My theory on that type of statement from a woman is that she isn't into you.. Something to remember.. If she was hot for you she would've let you kiss her.. It is after all only a kiss Of all the relationships that I have had.. including 2 marriages the ONLY thing they have all had in common is a kiss on the first date happened. This was research I did on my own dating life because I noticed a pattern that when the kiss didn't happen on the first date it didn't go anywhere no matter how many dates we went on.. Of course this was my life.. so take my advice with a grain of salt... sorry but, if youve been married twice, that means youve been divorced(atleast once), how can you say this kiss on the first date is a sign of good things? just becuase yall dont think kissing is a big thing, doesnt mean other people dont hold it to be more than just kissing some guy they met on one date. Maybe she wants to wait to see if you actually call her for a second date before she does anything with you, at all? and your fallin for her trap...
Author alphamale Posted January 17, 2010 Author Posted January 17, 2010 Maybe she wants to wait to see if you actually call her for a second date before she does anything with you, at all? and your fallin for her trap... so you think i should call her for a 2nd date? my instincts tell me she'll say "no" and then i'll look like a bOOb but you never know you may be right
Art_Critic Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) sorry but, if youve been married twice, that means youve been divorced(atleast once), how can you say this kiss on the first date is a sign of good things? just becuase yall dont think kissing is a big thing, doesnt mean other people dont hold it to be more than just kissing some guy they met on one date. Maybe she wants to wait to see if you actually call her for a second date before she does anything with you, at all? and your fallin for her trap... Boy.. that is just an uniformed post.. were you even reading the OP ? The thread or my post isn't about why my first marriage failed but about dating and first dates and kisses. How about reading the OP and post a proper post next time instead of just throwing out garbage about my marriages.. I have also had more relationships and second dates than I care to mention so I would think my experience on first dates rates pretty good.. I also ended my post with advicing that it was my life and take the advice with a grain of salt.. go smoke a blunt dude.. Edited January 18, 2010 by Art_Critic
HappyAgain Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I could give you my ex's girlfriend's number alpha! She'll not only kiss you but will send you pictures prior to the date to ensure you that she is shaved, will sleep with you and take pictures and videos on the first date and will even email them to you as a souvenir.
Art_Critic Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 sorry but, if youve been married twice, that means youve been divorced(atleast once), how can you say this kiss on the first date is a sign of good things? just becuase yall dont think kissing is a big thing, doesnt mean other people dont hold it to be more than just kissing some guy they met on one date. Maybe she wants to wait to see if you actually call her for a second date before she does anything with you, at all? and your fallin for her trap... http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t216065/ According to this thread you posted you have no experience in relationships and you are here downing mine.. that's rich...
counterman Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Just go for the second date and see what happens. It could probably be a test to see if you would wait for the kiss (she might think that's all you're interested in). Try it again during the second date and see what happens. If you get something like "I don't kiss on second dates" then...
Author alphamale Posted January 18, 2010 Author Posted January 18, 2010 Just go for the second date and see what happens. It could probably be a test to see if you would wait for the kiss (she might think that's all you're interested in). Try it again during the second date and see what happens. If you get something like "I don't kiss on second dates" then... well she did tell me that the last dude she dated didn't get lip action until date #3...she didn't specify which set of lips however
Skump Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 what gives? A desire not to contract oral herpes, maybe? FWIW, I sure as sh*t don't want people with whom I'm barely acquainted kissing me on the lips. This is why.
Choboto Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Boy.. that is just an uniformed post.. were you even reading the OP ? The thread or my post isn't about why my first marriage failed but about dating and first dates and kisses. How about reading the OP and post a proper post next time instead of just throwing out garbage about my marriages.. I have also had more relationships and second dates than I care to mention so I would think my experience on first dates rates pretty good.. I also ended my post with advicing that it was my life and take the advice with a grain of salt.. go smoke a blunt dude.. yes i did read it, and if you had fully read mine you would see how it correlated to his post...i never said i knew why your marriage didnt work. I just said the whole kiss on the first date must not be a indicator of anything to come in the future if they did fail. please make sure you know what i said before tryin to make me look like a fool. and all im sayin is think about it. She may simply just not kiss on the first date, cuz it tends to have the guy push further. YOu get a kiss, your gonna try to touch the leg, then try to feel her up, etc. Not that you would, but im sure she has reasoning for the no kissing on first date. If she waits to see if youll call her without bein physical at all, then maybe she knows your actually interested in HER, and not just tryin to be physical. but what do i know, i dont do relationships so i cant possibly know anything about it, like i dont know anything about anatomy.physiology since im a business major.../sarcasm.
Choboto Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t216065/ According to this thread you posted you have no experience in relationships and you are here downing mine.. that's rich... dude, read my post again, and tell me where it says anything about your experience in dating? THEN read it again, and tell me where it says the kissing on the first date is not a good indicator of what is to come, be it successful or not...
b52s Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 So what you are all saying that ANY woman who uses the "I don't kiss on a first date" line...is actually a lie? I was wondering though, I'd go for a 2nd date anyway, for one, the OP did express he got to feel her up, but just didn't get to kiss her.
make me believe Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I think it's super lame to have hard & fast rules like that and not be flexible about it at all. It's so uptight! I don't think people HAVE to kiss on the first date, but to rule it out completely because it goes against your "rules"? Meh.
Crazy Magnet Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 If I see the guy as a hot piece of tail, I'll kiss him right away, but if I'm interested in him for relationship material, I'll usually wait until the second or third date. In my mind, if I get rejected after lots of kissing, etc, on the first date it's worse than if I kept my body parts to myself. My strategy is to avoid painful rejection. It's only one in a million possibilities, but perhaps she thinks the same way?
Author alphamale Posted January 19, 2010 Author Posted January 19, 2010 So what you are all saying that ANY woman who uses the "I don't kiss on a first date" line...is actually a lie? i don't know I was wondering though, I'd go for a 2nd date anyway, for one, the OP did express he got to feel her up, but just didn't get to kiss her. i didn't get to "feel her up"....she didn't mind me putting my arm around her or or holding hands If I see the guy as a hot piece of tail, I'll kiss him right away, but if I'm interested in him for relationship material, I'll usually wait until the second or third date. In my mind, if I get rejected after lots of kissing, etc, on the first date it's worse than if I kept my body parts to myself. My strategy is to avoid painful rejection. It's only one in a million possibilities, but perhaps she thinks the same way? hmmm interesting...so you're saying she doesn't want to look like a tramp who kisses any joe that comes along?
tkgirl Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 hmmm interesting...so you're saying she doesn't want to look like a tramp who kisses any joe that comes along? that's probably it.. I've dated some guys that I was really attracted to and when they'd go in for a kiss, I'd turn them down.. well, at first! I remember this one guy... he was HOT... we were talking at a party, things seemed to be really clicking with us and all of sudden he asks to kiss me... and I said no! I think we we're both shocked! but at the time I wanted him to respect me and not think I was some chick he could meet at a party and start making out with. Ok maybe that scenerio is a little different but you get my point, right? So anyways back to you... I think you should ask her out one more time if you think you want to see her again. If she's acting a little too cold or uptight for you and still turns down the kiss, then kick her to the curb!
Yamaha Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I snuck a kiss from my gf, Alpha, on our 1st date. She wasn't going to kiss me but her face was close and I just went in and did it. I don't think it is absoutly necessary to get the kiss on the 1st date if you feel other sexual vibes. As long as you feel they aren't looking at you like a brother then I would ask for a 2nd. It comes down to feel. How do you feel it went and are you really interested in seeing her again?
Author alphamale Posted January 19, 2010 Author Posted January 19, 2010 Ok maybe that scenerio is a little different but you get my point, right? yes i get your point How do you feel it went and are you really interested in seeing her again? it went good...i would see her again. maybe i'll sit on it for a few days and think about it
Mr White Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I never kiss on a 1st date, so, no this kind of problems. I don't even understand since when 1st date kissing became the "norm". Why kiss a total stranger you just had dinner with?
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