Hot Carl Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I think a nice guy is more like an obese woman with plastic curlers in her hair and a little piece of chicken that she doesn't know about stuck to her chin.
knaveman Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers a little light bulb went off. Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? I postulate that they are. Both reek of desperation and are readily available. In addition there are many of them around. They'll do anything for you and are easily taken advantage of. There is no challenge to obtaining either one of them ergo their value on the dating market is low. Wait...what? You moisturize after a shower? Seriously? And you're a STRAIGHT man?
CaliGuy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 but obese guys with $$$ can still get chicks as long as they are not nice guy I disagree. If obese men have $$, they can get women even if they are nice guys. There will always be some women (not all, just some) drawn to a man of wealth, regardless of his looks/confidence. She may not stay, but she will be attracted to his income
Payden Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Wait...what? You moisturize after a shower? Seriously? And you're a STRAIGHT man? So... I put on baby powder and like my freshly dried sweetpants or boxers after a shower and before bed time lol... Well...I guess I tend to get somewhat feminine... So what...it's comfy. As long as I put on some slacks in the morning and change the oil in the car I'll be ok..I can keep my man-card. lol.. Just messing with ya... About this thread... What is a "Not obese" woman?.... You mean a skinney woman?... What does this have to do with a nice guy.... I have no idea what Alph is asking here..none whatsoever lol... very confused.
Awesome Username Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 When I read Alpha's thread I think of a very specific kind of guy, I think of this guy as the LS "nice" guy. There are countless guys like this on this forum, they claim that they're nice guys and that women are shallow sluts who don't like him because he is nice. There is nothing kind or nice about the LS nice guy. He is bitter, obsessive, hateful and full of self pity. He's the type who will become obsessed with any woman who shows him attention, and become a pushover, then turn spiteful and insulting when the woman doesn't want a relationship with him. These are the guys who say things like "She friend zoned me because I'm nice, now she's f*cking some loser, I hope the slut gets herpes." How nice Real kindness is attractive in a man The LS "nice" guys are just angry rejects who use the nice guy line to blame others for their lack of success with women. Sorry to take this off topic, my take on this is probably different than Alpha's but that's how I view this thread. And they're also your friends until they realize that you don't want to sleep with them, then they want nothing to do with you. This post is full of WIN.
cognac Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) "Hot" looking nice guy= the Hero. "Hot" looking bad guy= anti-Hero. Short/Ugly nice guy= Weenie Short/Ugly bad guy= Villain I personally think being the villain is more fun than the weenie, and I don't get that much more action than all the "nice guys" who are in my physical boat. I definitely get more, but it's not really nearly as much as they claim "bad boys" get, a "hot " nice guy definitely gets more play than I do. If you have to pick between the two, be the edgy badass. But if you're not a "hot guy" (not that I'm ugly, I'm just not very tall) don't expect huge differences in the action you get. Edited January 16, 2010 by cognac
Balthazar Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Actually, I believe "nice guys" can do quite well with women, especially if they are tall and good looking and I have a few cases where I have seen this exact thing happen. On the other hand, obese women are in trouble. Nobody really wants to get it on with them, except,possibly, obese men. Problem is the women usually want thin guys....
ella23 Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 No comparison. Obese people (both men and women) have more trouble dating than nice guys do.
Itzo Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 but obese guys with $$$ can still get chicks as long as they are not nice guy I do not think money is the major cause for a healthy relationship, but for getting chicks YES - but this is not going anywhere. But I like the idea the nice guys have similar BEHAVIOR with comparison to obese women. There is correlation between both for the following reasons: 1) Nice guys tend to be friends with any women. Without any sexual predispositions. 2) Obese gals tend to be friends with any men, also without any sexual tendencies. Either way, there is NO ATTRACTION when both interact with the opposite sex.
sagetalk Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 And they're also your friends until they realize that you don't want to sleep with them, then they want nothing to do with you. There is no such thing as a nice guy that just wants to sleep with you, that doesn't make sense. Those are jerks not nice guys. When I am physically attracted to a women and pursue a romantic relationship with her, it is difficult to just be friends after that. If she does not want a romantic relationship, it is torture to continue to be her friend while she goes out and sleeps with other guys. Most intelligent men will not put themselves through that kind of torture.
Angel1111 Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) What irks me is the whole "nice guy" thing being looked down upon..WHO told you that being a "nice guy" is a turn-off? if someone DOESN'T want you..they will NOT want you no matter how nice or ******* you are. You're just not her type period. But IDIOTS tend to think "oh i'm so nice, i treated her like a princess and she still didn't like me." Are people SUPPOSED ot be attracted to you just because you're nice? NO! This topic continues to come up because some men don't understand why they continually lose with women. So they like to make excuses by saying that they're too nice. It's total BS. But you can talk about this all day long and it won't matter. There are a lot of bitter men out there who truly think that women like mean men. They don't see that these mean or arrogant men were once nice to them, which is why the woman was originally attracted to him. They don't understand that once someone is involved with another person in a relationship that it's sometimes difficult to cut ties, or the woman feels confused. They just see what they want to see, instead of looking at their own juvenile, controlling, inconsiderate, or otherwise repelling behavior that is killing their own chances at a relationship. I went to a singles function recently. It was just a small thing - there were 3 women there and one guy. The guy showed up dressed looking like he belonged in a gang (although he was in his 30's) and when we walked into the theater, he didn't even open the door for us. He just stood there. I know a lot of people like to argue this point but I think it's incredibly rude and ill-mannered for a man not to open a door for a woman. My son was taught this when he was around 11. And I thought about this guy and realized that he was probably clueless as to why he was still single and why women weren't attracted to him. But before I spent 10 minutes around him, it was crystal clear to me. But I'll bet that this guy goes around telling people that he's just too nice, when really he is just too immature, dresses like a rebellious teenager, and lacks manners. Edited January 16, 2010 by Angel1111
LondonS Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 almost every single thread from this person Alphawanabemale is immature, pointless and pathetic... Next !!!
Hot Carl Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 almost every single thread from this person Alphawanabemale is immature, pointless and pathetic... And yet really insightful and accurate. This thread in particular gets at the heart of one of the greatest challenges men have to face today.
txsilkysmoothe Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I think there are two types of "nice guys." 1. The Nice "doormat" Guy - makes it clear he will do anything to be with a woman; spend himself into debt, allow her to verbally abuse him, do whatever she wants when she wants; a good nice woman cannot find these traits attractive nor can she respect him; this man appeals to a user type woman only. he is "desperate" to be in a relationship. 2.The Nice "knows who he is" Guy - he is in high demand; he has manners and treats all with respect and consideration; he'll do much for a woman but he will not be walked on or used; doesn't "have" to be in a relationship. When a woman says "I want a nice guy" she means number 2 but the number 1 guys scream "she's a liar. I'm a nice guy and she didn't want me." It's not just about being nice.
Pink Cupcakes Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Alpha, you have a fetish for obese women. You are attracted to them but are in denial, like a homosexual who bashes homosexuals. You have started many threads like this, and you are even admitting now to thinking about obese women in the shower. That is a positive step to admitting your true inner desires. Maybe you need to get some counseling to not be afraid to embrace who you are (obese and loving obese women) instead of having all this deep confusion regarding what society and your male peers expect you to embrace, and what you really want and are yourself.
Author alphamale Posted January 16, 2010 Author Posted January 16, 2010 i think i was referring more to the commonalities of desperation and no challenge...
CaliGuy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 2.The Nice "knows who he is" Guy - he is in high demand; he has manners and treats all with respect and consideration; he'll do much for a woman but he will not be walked on or used; doesn't "have" to be in a relationship. This isn't a "nice" guy, this is a well balanced guy and what women mean when they SAY they want a nice guy. He will do GOOD things because he wants to, not because he wants something in return. He's nice when he should be and mean and nasty when he should be. That is where the term balance comes from. Most typical nice guys are door mats. They do nice things in hopes of being loved and respected when that is the exact opposite of what will happen. Women don't respect men who try and manipulate them with gifts, favors, etc. It's not just about being nice. It's not about being nice at all. It's about being confident, genuine and well balanced. Anything else and you have either a door mat or a jerk (which, ironically both are very similar types of men, they just display their insecurities differently).
OnlyJake Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 This isn't a "nice" guy, this is a well balanced guy and what women mean when they SAY they want a nice guy. He will do GOOD things because he wants to, not because he wants something in return. He's nice when he should be and mean and nasty when he should be. That is where the term balance comes from. Most typical nice guys are door mats. They do nice things in hopes of being loved and respected when that is the exact opposite of what will happen. Women don't respect men who try and manipulate them with gifts, favors, etc. It's not about being nice at all. It's about being confident, genuine and well balanced. Anything else and you have either a door mat or a jerk (which, ironically both are very similar types of men, they just display their insecurities differently). Nice post.
tkgirl Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers a little light bulb went off. Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? I postulate that they are. Both reek of desperation and are readily available. In addition there are many of them around. They'll do anything for you and are easily taken advantage of. There is no challenge to obtaining either one of them ergo their value on the dating market is low. did we really need the visual?
Pink Cupcakes Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 i think i was referring more to the commonalities of desperation and no challenge... You can continue with the denial but thinking about obese women in showers and continual posts meant to degrade obese women screams of the desires you have (making love to obese women) and your continuing struggle with suppressing these desires.
Skump Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Obesity is especially unappealing because of its connotations. As mentioned, being short isn't a matter of choice, but virtually no one is fat without their own consent. The consensual nature of obesity makes it an issue of personal character - that's the real problem. If you're fat, whether it's due to a lack of self-control, chronic depression, or simple apathy, the implication is that you're not just an unhealthy person, but a "screwed-up person." Reconciling yourself to being fat is like screaming to the entire world "I suck, and I don't care." That's a pretty unattractive attitude. So, in a sense, fat girls are like nice guys - both would rather park their existential trailers in loserville than do the work necessary to improve their plights and lead enjoyable lives. It's hard to put a positive spin on being satisfied with diminished human possibilities, with a sort-of low-grade misery.
sagetalk Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 He's nice when he should be and mean and nasty when he should be. That is where the term balance comes from. Most typical nice guys are door mats. They do nice things in hopes of being loved and respected when that is the exact opposite of what will happen. Women don't respect men who try and manipulate them with gifts, favors, etc. It's not about being nice at all. It's about being confident, genuine and well balanced. I think nasty is the wrong word, a nice guy and nasty just doesn't go together. Doormats are doormats, being nice to get something in return is a jerk not a nice guy. It is about being nice, how can you say being a nice guy isn't about being nice? That's ridiculous. A nice guy is someone that puts other people above himself, does for others above himself, goes the extra mile, does for the benefit of others and not himself, is honest and trustworthy. That is what a nice guy is, not some stupid doormat. Jerks may mislabel themselves as nice guys to make themselves look better, but they are still jerks.
Johnny M Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Obesity is especially unappealing because of its connotations. As mentioned, being short isn't a matter of choice, but virtually no one is fat without their own consent. The consensual nature of obesity makes it an issue of personal character - that's the real problem. If you're fat, whether it's due to a lack of self-control, chronic depression, or simple apathy, the implication is that you're not just an unhealthy person, but a "screwed-up person." Reconciling yourself to being fat is like screaming to the entire world "I suck, and I don't care." That's a pretty unattractive attitude. So, in a sense, fat girls are like nice guys - both would rather park their existential trailers in loserville than do the work necessary to improve their plights and lead enjoyable lives. It's hard to put a positive spin on being satisfied with diminished human possibilities, with a sort-of low-grade misery. This is a great point.
New_Life08 Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 ok, sorry if i offend anyone BUT this forum is starting to get annoying & threads like these are the reason. First of all i know being "obese" is looked down upon which really makes me feel for obese people but that's not the point. What irks me is the whole "nice guy" thing being looked down upon..WHO told you that being a "nice guy" is a turn-off? if someone DOESN'T want you..they will NOT want you no matter how nice or ******* you are. You're just not her type period. But IDIOTS tend to think "oh i'm so nice, i treated her like a princess and she still didn't like me." Are people SUPPOSED ot be attracted to you just because you're nice? NO! I once was getting to know a VERY nice guy who I just simply wasn't "into" in that way. We just didn't click and that was that. So then he decided to "play hard to get", ignoring my calls, responding late to texts and trying to "not seem desperate" in attempt for me to like him. I didn't even notice that he wouldn't call..When he wouldn't text I hardly remembered hours later that he didn't reply and could care less. Then we talked and I was normal with him, STILL didn't like him. He was wondering why since he played the game by the book. BECAUSE I DON'T. You're not my type. Period. Now I'm in a relationship with a wonderful man who is VERY NICE and who i CLICK WITH and am very very happy with. He calls me and texts me every day and doesn't need to play games with me. He's a man not a little boy who thinks dating is rocket science and needs "techniques" and books to read on "how to get a girl to like you." Great point! Whether a nice guy or not, doesn't mean everyone has to fall in love with you. Maybe some nice guys are attracted to not so nice girls, and when they get the boot they become the victim of being too nice? Whatever! As for obese women I think insecurities come in all shapes and sizes.
betamanlet Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Some men desire obese women. No women desire nice guys.
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