alphamale Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers a little light bulb went off. Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? I postulate that they are. Both reek of desperation and are readily available. In addition there are many of them around. They'll do anything for you and are easily taken advantage of. There is no challenge to obtaining either one of them ergo their value on the dating market is low.
b52s Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers a little light bulb went off. Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? I postulate that they are. Both reek of desperation and are readily available. In addition there are many of them around. They'll do anything for you and are easily taken advantage of. There is no challenge to obtaining either one of them ergo their value on the dating market is low. Actually, I think nice guys who take care of their bodies stand a better chance at dating that obese women....so thus they're less desperate.
sagetalk Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Obese women have it harder than anyone, I don't think you can compare them.
lordWilhelm Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 No dude, you're comparing apples and oranges. Obese gals are more like obese guys.
Author alphamale Posted January 15, 2010 Author Posted January 15, 2010 No dude, you're comparing apples and oranges. Obese gals are more like obese guys. but obese guys with $$$ can still get chicks as long as they are not nice guy
Ilovehim Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 ok, sorry if i offend anyone BUT this forum is starting to get annoying & threads like these are the reason. First of all i know being "obese" is looked down upon which really makes me feel for obese people but that's not the point. What irks me is the whole "nice guy" thing being looked down upon..WHO told you that being a "nice guy" is a turn-off? if someone DOESN'T want you..they will NOT want you no matter how nice or ******* you are. You're just not her type period. But IDIOTS tend to think "oh i'm so nice, i treated her like a princess and she still didn't like me." Are people SUPPOSED ot be attracted to you just because you're nice? NO! I once was getting to know a VERY nice guy who I just simply wasn't "into" in that way. We just didn't click and that was that. So then he decided to "play hard to get", ignoring my calls, responding late to texts and trying to "not seem desperate" in attempt for me to like him. I didn't even notice that he wouldn't call..When he wouldn't text I hardly remembered hours later that he didn't reply and could care less. Then we talked and I was normal with him, STILL didn't like him. He was wondering why since he played the game by the book. BECAUSE I DON'T. You're not my type. Period. Now I'm in a relationship with a wonderful man who is VERY NICE and who i CLICK WITH and am very very happy with. He calls me and texts me every day and doesn't need to play games with me. He's a man not a little boy who thinks dating is rocket science and needs "techniques" and books to read on "how to get a girl to like you."
tami-chan Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Well, what about Oprah, Roseanne Barr and Rosie ODonnell? they were (are?) obese and they have active lovelives....? So no, obese women definitely does not equal nice guys....! Many people do not want to even be around morbidly obese men or women....Most ( if not all) want to be around nice men.... Say, you are invited to a wedding reception and you do not have a GF, you still would not opt to go with an obese woman, would you? But many women would call their nice guy friend to accompany them given the same situation. Indeed, apples and oranges, alpha!
Johnny M Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers a little light bulb went off. Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? This would only be true if all 'nice guys' were physically unattractive, which I don't believe to be the case.
Author alphamale Posted January 15, 2010 Author Posted January 15, 2010 Well, what about Oprah, Roseanne Barr and Rosie ODonnell? they were (are?) obese and they have active lovelives....? they are all rich celebs
OnlyJake Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Obese women have it harder than anyone, I don't think you can compare them. I don't know how you could possibly make such a broad statement that any one type of person or group of people have it harder than anyone else. Everyone has their own issues and one of the most obnoxious things to hear is "other people have it worse". At least obese women have the choice to lose to weight. Dare I say it? Short men are stuck with their height. (I'm kind of kidding, this seems to be an issue on this forum?) Just as an example. What about aging women, broke men, single parents, paraplegics, ugly people, people who are too good looking, people who are too nice, people who are too bitter, people with low self-esteem, and on and on and on. For God's sake
Ilovehim Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 I don't know how you could possibly make such a broad statement that any one type of person or group of people have it harder than anyone else. Everyone has their own issues and one of the most obnoxious things to hear is "other people have it worse". At least obese women have the choice to lose to weight. Dare I say it? Short men are stuck with their height. (I'm kind of kidding, this seems to be an issue on this forum?) Just as an example. What about aging women, broke men, single parents, paraplegics, ugly people, people who are too good looking, people who are too nice, people who are too bitter, people with low self-esteem, and on and on and on. For God's sake exactly. lol
allina Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 What irks me is the whole "nice guy" thing being looked down upon..WHO told you that being a "nice guy" is a turn-off? if someone DOESN'T want you..they will NOT want you no matter how nice or ******* you are. You're just not her type period. But IDIOTS tend to think "oh i'm so nice, i treated her like a princess and she still didn't like me." Are people SUPPOSED ot be attracted to you just because you're nice? NO! When I read Alpha's thread I think of a very specific kind of guy, I think of this guy as the LS "nice" guy. There are countless guys like this on this forum, they claim that they're nice guys and that women are shallow sluts who don't like him because he is nice. There is nothing kind or nice about the LS nice guy. He is bitter, obsessive, hateful and full of self pity. He's the type who will become obsessed with any woman who shows him attention, and become a pushover, then turn spiteful and insulting when the woman doesn't want a relationship with him. These are the guys who say things like "She friend zoned me because I'm nice, now she's f*cking some loser, I hope the slut gets herpes." How nice Real kindness is attractive in a man The LS "nice" guys are just angry rejects who use the nice guy line to blame others for their lack of success with women. Sorry to take this off topic, my take on this is probably different than Alpha's but that's how I view this thread.
OnlyJake Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 when i read alpha's thread i think of a very specific kind of guy, i think of this guy as the ls "nice" guy. There are countless guys like this on this forum, they claim that they're nice guys and that women are shallow sluts who don't like him because he is nice. There is nothing kind or nice about the ls nice guy. He is bitter, obsessive, hateful and full of self pity. He's the type who will become obsessed with any woman who shows him attention, and become a pushover, then turn spiteful and insulting when the woman doesn't want a relationship with him. These are the guys who say things like "she friend zoned me because i'm nice, now she's f*cking some loser, i hope the slut gets herpes." how nice Real kindness is attractive in a man The ls "nice" guys are just angry rejects who use the nice guy line to blame others for their lack of success with women. Sorry to take this off topic, my take on this is probably different than alpha's but that's how i view this thread. yes!!!!!!!!!!!
tami-chan Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 they are all rich celebs you mean kind of like this: but obese guys with $$$ can still get chicks as long as they are not nice guy
Ilovehim Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 When I read Alpha's thread I think of a very specific kind of guy, I think of this guy as the LS "nice" guy. There are countless guys like this on this forum, they claim that they're nice guys and that women are shallow sluts who don't like him because he is nice. There is nothing kind or nice about the LS nice guy. He is bitter, obsessive, hateful and full of self pity. He's the type who will become obsessed with any woman who shows him attention, and become a pushover, then turn spiteful and insulting when the woman doesn't want a relationship with him. These are the guys who say things like "She friend zoned me because I'm nice, now she's f*cking some loser, I hope the slut gets herpes." How nice Real kindness is attractive in a man The LS "nice" guys are just angry rejects who use the nice guy line to blame others for their lack of success with women. Sorry to take this off topic, my take on this is probably different than Alpha's but that's how I view this thread. i agree.
GoodOnPaper Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? I've read this notion in PUA and other pop psychology circles. I think the idea is that the obese woman and "nice guy" have the same struggle in generating attraction from the opposite sex -- she because of her lack of visual appeal and he because of his lack of confidence. I don't know how generalized this analogy truly is, but it turns out that my marriage is a case in point -- and a little deeper look reveals that she has as many "nice girl" issues at play as I have "nice guy" issues.
Lizzie60 Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers a little light bulb went off. Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? I postulate that they are. Both reek of desperation and are readily available. In addition there are many of them around. They'll do anything for you and are easily taken advantage of. There is no challenge to obtaining either one of them ergo their value on the dating market is low. WOW... Alpha.. do you get 'light bulb' moments only when you take a shower.. it's been a long time.. (kidding) Methink you're bored and trying to stir the pot.. hum?
Jaytb Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers a little light bulb went off. Are not obese women basically the same as nice guys? I postulate that they are. Both reek of desperation and are readily available. In addition there are many of them around. They'll do anything for you and are easily taken advantage of. There is no challenge to obtaining either one of them ergo their value on the dating market is low. more like obese gals = short guys
quankanne Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Whilst i was taking my shower and then putting on my moisturizers :lmao::lmao: sounds like Alpha's going metrosexual on us .. Both reek of desperation and are readily available. In addition there are many of them around. They'll do anything for you and are easily taken advantage of. if that isn't a blanket statement full of crap I don't know what is. Not all obese people or nice people "reek of desperation" or make themselves readily available because they don't know if the opportunity will ever present itself again. It's less about what those folks are really like, and more of others' perceptions of them. And postulating theories the way you have done just reinforces those skewed perceptions.
PJKino Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 The nice guy myth is mongoloidish "A nice guy" only doesnt get women if hes ugly or if hes so "nice" that hes afraid to appraoch a woomen and let it be known his intentions Do you think some guy a girl thinks its extremely handsome and hot would get rejected for being too nice?? "That hot guy likes me way too much and showing way too much interest in me. He isnt ignoring me or acting alloof enough,f him" Yeah right:laugh:
lordWilhelm Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) By the way alpha, since you seem to make a hobby out of dissing nice guys, you should take your next chick to "it's complicated". Steve Martin plays this nice guy taken to the extreme and that doesn't look pretty. Edited January 16, 2010 by lordWilhelm
randall Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 There are quite a few very overweight women where I work and every single one of them is married. Which means either they've lowered their standards to take any guy they can get OR that not all men are as shallow as women claim and many men are quite happy to look past a woman's weight.
sagetalk Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I don't know how you could possibly make such a broad statement that any one type of person or group of people have it harder than anyone else. What about aging women, broke men, single parents, paraplegics, ugly people, people who are too good looking, people who are too nice, people who are too bitter, people with low self-esteem, and on and on and on. Ok, paraplegics have it worse, the rest of the list, no. There are people that have it easier and people that have it harder. A tall slim blue eyed 25 year old blond needs to make no effort whatsoever to get a guy, while many obese 25 year old women probably couldn't get a guy to tell her the time of day.
and.then.some Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 WOW @ This thread. Like Randall... I don't personally know any obese women who are single either. Nice guy and needy guy are not one in the same.
Zeegagge Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 This nice guy stuff is ridiculous. I'm over it. I'm going to talk about it anyway. Being a nice guy is like, its just a matter of how you rock it. Nice guys can get girls easy, but they also have to be real, something a lot seem to have a problem with. They have to learn some things real quick in order to keep a girl around. Need to learn to let them chase you a little bit too. Need to learn when to finally stand up and how to do it. I'm a nice guy whatever and I date beautiful women all the time. Usually they come to me too. I had a friend in college ask me how I did it. I don't know I'm just real and have fun and they dig it. Blame Jos'e Cuervo for any typoes.
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