Will I be destined to be alone if I don't accept short men?

[angie2443]

Considering the bell curve of male height, just how many 4' 11" guys are approaching you to make this an issue? You must either be hanging out at the Jockey Club at the track or you're in 5th grade!

 

 

. I was thinking about this. How often do you run into a man who is 5' tall? This is short for a woman's height.

[theBrokenMuse]

theBrokenMuse, most women do prefer tall men. Let's not lie about this. A lot of women in society crack on short men, even the moviestar Tom Cruise, his nickname is "Tiny Tim". I've heard lots of women say "he's soo goodlooking but damn too bad he's short". I've heard it so many times that this type of talk seemed normal.

 

Do people in hollywood or certain media outlets make cracks about his height? I am sure they do.. they also make cracks about anyone who isn't one pound away from total organ failure. What's your point? As far as I can tell lots of women like tall guys but it doesn't mean they would rule out dating a short man. I see short guys with women all the time. The short guys in my family are all married too.

[theBrokenMuse]

No offnese but only women who say that are women who think they cant get a Tall Man since they know Tall Men are in such high demand and can pick who they want

 

That is the dumbest thing I have read all day, congrats. Oh, and please use your real screen name now. Cowardice is so unbecoming.

[cognac]

Most women do prefer tall men, but that does not mean they would refuse to date short men.

 

No, it just means their interest in the short guy wanes as soon as a tall guy starts to hit on them.

[ella23]

No, it just means their interest in the short guy wanes as soon as a tall guy starts to hit on them.

No, it doesn't mean that.

But you'd rather believe that anyway, because you can't accept that you could have possibly been dumped for reasons other than your height. Height was probably just an excuse.

[cognac]

No, it doesn't mean that.

But you'd rather believe that anyway, because you can't accept that you could have possibly been dumped for reasons other than your height. Height was probably just an excuse.

 

So you're telling me that myself and the rest of the "shorties" (all the 5'6-5'7) guys are all just making it up ? Why would we do that? I doubt it makes anyone here feel good that women as a group highly value and are extremely sexually turned on by a trait that we will never have.

 

Are women in on a conspiracy to trick us into believing it's our height, but it's really something that we all wish it was like our "attitude" and "confidence"??? You'd be surprised we shorties have a diverse amount of attitudes and confidence, from low to high, from good to bad, and we all seem to report the same exact results.

 

I guess lying to yourself and saying it's our personality when women blatantly have a 'thing' for tall guys and will pick them almost always over a short guy even if the short guy has much more to offer (not talking about money specifically), can make some dumb guys feel better, but in the end, you're still going out with a guy whose 6'3, am I right ella?

[ella23]

So you're telling me that myself and the rest of the "shorties" (all the 5'6-5'7) guys are all just making it up ? Why would we do that? I doubt it makes anyone here feel good that women as a group highly value and are extremely sexually turned on by a trait that we will never have.

 

Are women in on a conspiracy to trick us into believing it's our height, but it's really something that we all wish it was like our "attitude" and "confidence"??? You'd be surprised we shorties have a diverse amount of attitudes and confidence, from low to high, from good to bad, and we all seem to report the same exact results.

 

I guess lying to yourself and saying it's our personality when women blatantly have a 'thing' for tall guys and will pick them almost always over a short guy even if the short guy has much more to offer (not talking about money specifically), can make some dumb guys feel better, but in the end, you're still going out with a guy whose 6'3, am I right ella?

Yes, but I also went out with guys who were around 5'7" and 5'8", and and their heights were not an issue. I doubt most women really care about height to the extent you think they do.

Oh, and I'm not dating my boyfriend because he's 6'3". I'd date him even if he was 5'7". But I know you won't believe that, because it doesn't go with your belief that height is a big deal for all women.

Edited January 16, 2010 by ella23

[ella23]

Also, how is that most of the short guys I know are in relationships or are married? Plus, some guys on here are around 5'7"-5'8", and they have not had a problem with women.

[cognac]

Yes, but I also went out with guys who were around 5'7" and 5'8", and and their heights were not an issue. I doubt most women really care about height to the extent you think they do.[/Quote]

 

This is a lie and you know it. Even the girls who liked me would make some kind of height related remark either to my face or behind my back. Personally it doesn't bother me because I'm comfortable enough in my own skin to not care and laugh at it (if it's funny or clever) or ignore it, but I can tell when that happens, my "social value" as some guys call it plummets in the eyes of women.

 

Oh, and I'm not dating my boyfriend because he's 6'3". I'd date him even if he was 5'7". But I know you won't believe that, because it doesn't go with your belief that height is a big deal for all women. [/Quote]

 

Considering how 6'3 guys are not that common and seldom single, while 5'7 guys are more common and usually single, yeah, I'm not going to believe you.

 

What you really mean by "women prefer tall guys but will date a shortish type of guy" is that you'll go for the tall guys first, and if absolutely none of them want you, you may give that 5'7 admirer a chance. Even that stings the ego, because it means you're always the last resort in a woman's eyes.

[cognac]

Also, how is that most of the short guys I know are in relationships or are married? Plus, some guys on here are around 5'7"-5'8", and they have not had a problem with women.

 

Well yesterday at work I was asked out by a girl to go to the movies with her. Sure there is always SOMEONe to date. Why didn't I accept? This girl uses heroin and is not attractive in the least bit because of it. I actually like her, she has a heart of gold and thinks I'm awesome (she's not a typical scumbag drug addict, just struggling with a problem) but I just can't overlook a flaw like that. I don't think this makes me picky.

 

It's not that 100% of women don't want to date a guy whose 5'7, it's that the women who are willing to do it are either obese, very ugly, or have some other huge flaw like a bad drug problem. The average every day girls next door DO NOT WANT US! Why should I have to date them, when I am not any of the above?

Edited January 16, 2010 by cognac

[MissJoness]

This is a lie and you know it. Even the girls who liked me would make some kind of height related remark either to my face or behind my back. Personally it doesn't bother me because I'm comfortable enough in my own skin to not care and laugh at it (if it's funny or clever) or ignore it, but I can tell when that happens, my "social value" as some guys call it plummets in the eyes of women.

 

 

 

Considering how 6'3 guys are not that common and seldom single, while 5'7 guys are more common and usually single, yeah, I'm not going to believe you.

 

What you really mean by "women prefer tall guys but will date a shortish type of guy" is that you'll go for the tall guys first, and if absolutely none of them want you, you may give that 5'7 admirer a chance. Even that stings the ego, because it means you're always the last resort in a woman's eyes.

Isn't there some kind of surgery that can lengthen your legs to make you taller? I have heard of this and if I felt my height was a hinderance as a guy I would certainly get it done. I know that guys in my age group and race prefer a girl with a certian look and coloring, and I am in the process of making myself look like that ideal. If the way I look was stopping me from getting what I want, I would change how I look. I'm not going to stay looking a certain way and not get ahead. It just makes you more bitter, angry and depressed.

[Sweetie1977]

Well yesterday at work I was asked out by a girl to go to the movies with her. Sure there is always SOMEONe to date. Why didn't I accept? This girl uses heroin and is not attractive in the least bit because of it. I actually like her, she has a heart of gold and thinks I'm awesome (she's not a typical scumbag drug addict, just struggling with a problem) but I just can't overlook a flaw like that. I don't think this makes me picky.

 

It's not that 100% of women don't want to date a guy whose 5'7, it's that the women who are willing to do it are either obese, very ugly, or have some other huge flaw like a bad drug problem. The average every day girls next door DO NOT WANT US! Why should I have to date them, when I am not any of the above?

 

Now youre being as supperfical as you claim us women are

 

Bottom line is being short as a Man is an unattractive trait so you have to find women with imperfections because thats your league

[ella23]

This is a lie and you know it. Even the girls who liked me would make some kind of height related remark either to my face or behind my back. Personally it doesn't bother me because I'm comfortable enough in my own skin to not care and laugh at it (if it's funny or clever) or ignore it, but I can tell when that happens, my "social value" as some guys call it plummets in the eyes of women.

It's not a lie. What I'm saying is that height isn't all that important to most women. I doubt many woman would consider your height a deal-breaker if they find you desirable when it comes to other aspects. Most of us aren't exactly looking for perfection.

 

Considering how 6'3 guys are not that common and seldom single, while 5'7 guys are more common and usually single, yeah, I'm not going to believe you.

 

What you really mean by "women prefer tall guys but will date a shortish type of guy" is that you'll go for the tall guys first, and if absolutely none of them want you, you may give that 5'7 admirer a chance. Even that stings the ego, because it means you're always the last resort in a woman's eyes.

Well, I'm being honest. If you choose not to believe me, too bad. Height by itself doesn't determine whether someone is attractive or unattractive to me.

 

Well yesterday at work I was asked out by a girl to go to the movies with her. Sure there is always SOMEONe to date. Why didn't I accept? This girl uses heroin and is not attractive in the least bit because of it.

 

It's not that 100% of women don't want to date a guy whose 5'7, it's that the women who are willing to do it are either obese, very ugly, or have some other huge flaw like a bad drug problem. The average every day girls next door DO NOT WANT US! Why should I have to date them, when I am not any of the above?

 

The short men I know are not with any of those type of women, so I can safely say that what you're saying("No decent looking woman who's not a drug addict will date a short guy") is nonsense.

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[CaliGuy]

I'm going to get plastic surgery to get the type of man that I want the most. I will never be happy with a guy whose short. I dated one and always longed for a taller guy; he just wasn't enough.

 

Meh then you'll end up with a guy who sees you primarily for your looks. When those start to fade, he'll up and leave.

 

Instead of focusing on the outside, focus on the inner you.

 

As for your question, if you aren't attracted to shorter men, so be it. You should go after what you desire. You will most likely pass up the ideal man for you because you can't get past the height issue, but I'm sure if you wait long enough, you will eventually find the right guy in the right height range.

 

I don't think personal preferences are bad. I think modifying your appearance to help "attract" someone is much worse. It speaks of an inner inferiority complex -- insecurities.

 

If you really want a tall guy, start talking to tall guys you are interested in. The one who really likes you for who you are will respond to your advances.

[CaliGuy]

Isn't there some kind of surgery that can lengthen your legs to make you taller?

 

Yes, but no self-respecting doctor will perform the surgery on males that are within normal height range (read: not a dwarf). The surgery requires breaking bones and gradually lengthening them over the course of a year or two which means he will not be able to walk for a year. I don't know about you, but even if I was 5'5" I would not go through that.

 

Love me for who I am or get bent. I certainly wouldn't want to be with someone who feels like I am their "last resort" if I was a shorter man.

[theBrokenMuse]

Love me for who I am or get bent.

Damn skippy. If more people felt that way perhaps the world of dating and relationships wouldn't be such a horrid mess.

[CaliGuy]

Also, how is that most of the short guys I know are in relationships or are married? Plus, some guys on here are around 5'7"-5'8", and they have not had a problem with women.

 

I've seen plenty of 5'6" guys with 5'9"+ wives. Height is much less of an issue to MOST women than people believe. It's CONFIDENCE that is the most important aspect (not cocky, not arrogant, just a quiet confidence in one's self).

 

There will always be women as short at 5' who want 6'3"+ guys. To them I say go for it. I wouldn't waste a second of my time on a woman who sees height as the most important quality when seeking a man.

 

Besides, there are plenty of fish in the sea. Don't waste your time on people who don't want to be with you. Focus your time instead on those who do.

[CaliGuy]

Damn skippy. If more people felt that way perhaps the world of dating and relationships wouldn't be such a horrid mess.

 

Problem is, too many people can't deal with rejection. We (men and women) get rejected as a potential mate than we are accepted. If you understand the odds and also realize there are a TON of available people out there, you stop focusing in on the ones who don't want you and you instead keep smiling and move on.

 

Wasting your time on someone who isn't attracted to you is just ridiculous.

[theBrokenMuse]

Problem is, too many people can't deal with rejection.

Absolutely. That's part of the reason why so many people are willing to drastically change our exteriors in order to appease those who we feel would otherwise reject us. I'd rather be alone than with someone who didn't actually want me but who I am able to masquerade myself as in order to gain their approval. I have my own approval, everyone else can just **** off. Or that's my take on it at least.

[MissJoness]

Problem is, too many people can't deal with rejection. We (men and women) get rejected as a potential mate than we are accepted. If you understand the odds and also realize there are a TON of available people out there, you stop focusing in on the ones who don't want you and you instead keep smiling and move on.

 

Wasting your time on someone who isn't attracted to you is just ridiculous.

 

Yeah but I don't see anything wrong with changing how you look to become more attractive to a wider range of people. When I go to clubs and bars I want to have just as many guys hitting on me and offering me drinks like the other women of a certain hue. And I am also in the process of changing how I look to gain more status and move up in society.

[CaliGuy]

I am the same height as you, and I wear heels which makes me taller. I've had men who were literally 5'0 approach me. Once I just laughed and said I had a boyfriend. I don't know why a man would want to be in a relationship with a woman who is that much taller than them, we'd look like a freakshow out in public. I guess some men don't care. But I do.

 

How is a 5'1" girl with a 6'4" guy any less "freakish" looking than a shorter guy with a taller girl?!

 

It's semantics. If you have more than a 6" height variance is where it looks retarded. Granted, women and men can wear shoes that increase their height but there's only so much you can do.

 

Wanting a tall man has been ingrained in women for thousands of years. It doesn't mean that a tall guy is any more capable of being a protector and provider than a shorter man. It's just pre-programmed in women's minds to think that way.

 

And guys, if you meet a woman who feels that way, just keep walking. There are plenty (and I mean PLENTY) of women out there who don't judge a man by the side of his body, but by the size of his heart.

[CaliGuy]

Yeah but I don't see anything wrong with changing how you look to become more attractive to a wider range of people.

 

Of course you don't. Most insecure people are incapable of loving who they are, just as they are so they figure they need to "correct" some perceived deficiency. The problem is, changing yourself on the outside doesn't do anything to fix the inner problems, which are the source of insecurities.

 

Fix yourself from the inside and most of your dating problems will go away.

 

When I go to clubs and bars I want to have just as many guys hitting on me and offering me drinks like the other women of a certain hue. And I am also in the process of changing how I look to gain more status and move up in society.

 

Well, good luck with that. Changing your looks is simply a band-aid over a more severe wound.

 

(And this is exactly why I don't buy women drinks at night clubs. I am not out to impress them or "win" them over with my superior "drink-buying" skills, haha. Most night clubs are all about what's on the outside -- and all people are trying to do is get laid anyway. They aren't looking for relationships. Just the next "lay". If you're going to clubs to try and meet the right guy, you will be sorely disappointed).

[threebyfate]

Also, how is that most of the short guys I know are in relationships or are married? Plus, some guys on here are around 5'7"-5'8", and they have not had a problem with women.

Most of the guys on here do have problems with women but it's not because of their height, although they'd like to believe that's the reason since it's something they can't change. It's far easier to blame the problems on external sources, since to accept and want to change the problems within, isn't something they're willing to do. Same goes for the OP.

[MissJoness]

Of course you don't. Most insecure people are incapable of loving who they are, just as they are so they figure they need to "correct" some perceived deficiency. The problem is, changing yourself on the outside doesn't do anything to fix the inner problems, which are the source of insecurities.

 

Fix yourself from the inside and most of your dating problems will go away.

 

 

 

Well, good luck with that. Changing your looks is simply a band-aid over a more severe wound.

 

(And this is exactly why I don't buy women drinks at night clubs. I am not out to impress them or "win" them over with my superior "drink-buying" skills, haha. Most night clubs are all about what's on the outside -- and all people are trying to do is get laid anyway. They aren't looking for relationships. Just the next "lay". If you're going to clubs to try and meet the right guy, you will be sorely disappointed).

Yeah but it seems like your social value goes up when you go out with friends and you get hit on the most or just as much as they do and get many guys trying to dance with you. If you are the friend that doesn't get as many guys looking or hit on you, you get a stigma and your friends think less of you. Ive been around girls who take a lot of pride in being the type of girl that has a lot of guys vying for their attention; they even think of it as a positive quality.