pyroguy Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 in world polls about dating differing natioinalities it seems that americans time and time again come out at the bottom of the heap. i wonder why that is? It;s because they are so disgustingly jealous! and that includes some posters here. God, I'm so sick and tired of the jealousy and stupidity. Yea, we are so un-educated, yet we have built the the most powerful nation-from nothing. And, I'm so sick and tired of hearing Americans worry what Europeans think or how they behave or view things-who cares!!
D-Lish Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 So American men get the short end of the stick again? It's alright, just say you're Canadian.
Kamille Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) So let me get this straight... some nationalities 'deserve' to get laid more than others? Or rather, we're measuring patriotism according to women's willingness to open their legs to particular men? Oh no wait - some men, according to linguistic accents, which stand for nationalities, manage to get laid more then others and that is a concern for American patriots because somehow we're supposed to believe American men aren't getting laid enough? May I kindly suggest whoever thinks their nationality makes them superior beings just because they happened to be born somewhere take some time to get a life? Do you really think you need to be superior to the rest of the world to therefore deserve to get laid? Do you perhaps watch too many adventure movies where American GIs drop into some foreign countries, get rid of the bad guys and land bodylicious girls? And do you really believe women's only purpose in life is to validate men's sexual desirability? I've dated and flirted with travelers because they tend to be open-minded and adventurous, not because they were of a particular nationality or because they had a specific accent. What's more, travelers tend to believe, like I do, that all humans are born with equal capacities in unequal conditions- because they know that the privileges or disadvantages that comes with being born in particular territories has nothing to do with individual traits and personalities. Edited January 16, 2010 by Kamille
aerogurl87 Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 So I've seen girls go Goo-Goo Gaa-Gaa over so many losers with an Australian or European accent. All these dudes come to the USA and get mad azz just because they have an accent. I used to know a middle aged Australian who was basically a bum - but my did he get laid! I am going to be doing some traveling this year - in what countries are American men "appreciated" the most by women? There is something about European men that most American men don't have that I've noticed. I think it has to do with the way they carry themselves. Almost all the European men I've met carry themselves very well. The accents are a plus too though, but then again I just love Europeans in general. I love British accents and the dark features of men from the Mediterranean area. Mmmm, tres sexy!
Citizen Erased Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Hmmm. Maybe it's more of an Australian thing then? Some one name me an Australian who has no game with the American women! What is with the sudden hating on Aussies? The reason women/men find foreign accents attractive is because they're unusual, different to what they're used to. Americans are not that unusual because every time we turn the tv on there you guys are, movies etc. I don't really notice your accents that much anymore, apart from the obvious differences location wise.
threebyfate Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 It's true that certain accents are attractive to some women, including myself. But it has pretty minimal impact on the question of "to date or not to date". A shyte's a shyte, no matter what country he came from or what accent he has. I personally like a well-modulated southern gentleman's accent.
marlena Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 What's more, travelers tend to believe, like I do, that all humans are born with equal capacities in unequal conditions- because they know that the privileges or disadvantages that comes with being born in particular territories has nothing to do with individual traits and personalities. Exquisite, Kamille. Now, this is what makes a person attractive in my eyes as well. What renders a person sophisticated is not just a flair for dressing, a sexy accent or an unforgettable cologne but his/her open-mindedness and personal experiences which both lend depth to his/her personality. Perhaps Europeans are more exposed to this as travelling from one country to another is a piece of cake for them. Add to this the fact that Europe has a very rich cultural heritage and a complex history and the mix becomes even more intriguing.
Taramere Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 It;s because they are so disgustingly jealous! and that includes some posters here. God, I'm so sick and tired of the jealousy and stupidity. Yea, we are so un-educated, yet we have built the the most powerful nation-from nothing. And, I'm so sick and tired of hearing Americans worry what Europeans think or how they behave or view things-who cares!! I doubt many women, American or otherwise, want to sleep with Rush Limbaugh....but unfortunately this seems to be the vision of masculinity that's promoted in the US. A lot of hot air, bravado and baseless arrogance. Nobody's disputing that the US (like so many other - often much smaller - countries) has many notable achievements and accomplishments. As is usually the case, however, the exceptional minority accomplish and the unexceptional majority take vast amounts of unearned credit on account of having been born in that country.
paddington bear Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 What I think American's forget is that much of the rest of the world has 1000's of American tv show imports shown in their own countries shown over many years and that the main big, movies that are hits worldwide are also American. So, the rest of the world builds up a false, pre-conceived notion as to what both America and American's are, which means there is no mystery "huh, he's American, I know already what he's going to be like." It's one theory anyway. I do have to say that no matter what country you come from, the exotic and unusual will always grab other's interest. I left my country and moved elsewhere and I'm unfortunately not beating the men off with sticks...maybe not exotic enough
zetkin Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I am going to be doing some traveling this year - in what countries are American men "appreciated" the most by women? Try Russia - a lot of pretty girls, don't have anything against Americans. Though you might have troubles being understood… but as I got it you’re not really interested in talking too much )))
marlena Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) I doubt many women, American or otherwise, want to sleep with Rush Limbaugh....but unfortunately this seems to be the vision of masculinity that's promoted in the US. A lot of hot air, bravado and baseless arrogance. Yes, as far as stereotypes go, I'd say this is a popular one. Nobody's disputing that the US (like so many other - often much smaller - countries) has many notable achievements and accomplishments. As is usually the case, however, the exceptional minority accomplish and the unexceptional majority take vast amounts of unearned credit on account of having been born in that country. Yes, that's the way it always is, isn't it? Anyway, America may be a very powerful military machine and a strong capitalist country (or was) but as far as culture and sophistication are concerned, it can not compete with Europe. To the OP, if you're looking for someone who will appreciate an American male, I agree with the others, try the former Eastern Bloc countries and even then if only you have a big,fat wallet. Otherwise, just stick to American girls. Edited January 16, 2010 by marlena
Taramere Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 There are plenty of American men on this board who seem very cool, and I've liked most of the American guys I've met. My only problem is with the idiots who think that in all seriousness believe their nationality should be a big selling point to women. It's one thing to have joky patriotic banter, but when you meet someone who possesses a sincere belief that their country and inhabitants outmuch all others in all respects, then it just sounds like self-comforting, insular rubbish. You do get a few people like that in every country, though. I mean, to any American women labouring under the impression that it's all Hugh Grant, Sean Connery, Jude Law and Ewan McGregor....the UK regularly contributes its share of big bellied, badly sunburned types stravaiging around other countries proclaiming the alleged superiority of their nation. Presenting no clear grounds for this belief other than the fact that they happened to be born there.
marlena Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 What I think American's forget is that much of the rest of the world has 1000's of American tv show imports shown in their own countries shown over many years and that the main big, movies that are hits worldwide are also American. This is very true. The image that people who live abroad have of Americans is very much shaped by the film and music industry and most of the stuff coming out is silly sitcoms, commercial cookie-cutter films and caucophonous sounds. Not to mention Americans' naive view of politics. That's not to say that quality stuff is not being produced, it is, but like Taramere pointed out, it gets lost in the general picture of things.
paddington bear Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I think we all fall for it...the lure of the foreign person. Some clichés: Those from south America, southern Europe are seen as passionate. American's are seen as loud and confident, Russian and East European men seen as moody and manly, the women as stunningly beautiful but money-grabbing, Irish people are always drunk, Englishmen are always charming, posh with floppy hair and so on... There are 'some' general truths among these cultural clichés, because there is always going to be cultural differences, but then you go travelling or live abroad and see the wide spectrum of people and attitudes which may be totally anathema to what you believe to be true of the people from a particular country. I think when one plays up to the bad clichés of your country - let's take the example of all Americans are dumb and loud and uncultured (which is patently not true)...if you go abroad and act dumb and loud and uncultured, people will think 'oh another stupid American', whereas if you do not act out these bad cultural stereotypes that people have you are onto a winner.
Els Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 So American men get the short end of the stick again? What is with this phenomenon? So why do american girls get all juicy when they hear a foreign accent and women from other cultures don't? Cause American guys like you give the whole bunch a bad name.
marlena Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Cause American guys like you give the whole bunch a bad name. :laugh: Seriously though, I don't think its just American men. It's a universal male trait old as time itself!!
pyroguy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I doubt many women, American or otherwise, want to sleep with Rush Limbaugh....but unfortunately this seems to be the vision of masculinity that's promoted in the US. A lot of hot air, bravado and baseless arrogance. Nobody's disputing that the US (like so many other - often much smaller - countries) has many notable achievements and accomplishments. As is usually the case, however, the exceptional minority accomplish and the unexceptional majority take vast amounts of unearned credit on account of having been born in that country. So, what's your point? I wouldn't sleep with Rush Limbaugh either . BAseless arrogance? and Europeans don't supply plenty of this? It seems to me that people dislike haters and generalizations...except when it's aimed at Americans. Then it's open season. I for one am sick of it. It's not bravado, it's called being proud of your country and not listening to the brainwashed rants of so-called open minded people. And for the ove of god, please stop thinking that anyone born in the USA came into the world with a silver spoon in their mouth. We generally work harder than any other nation.
openbook08 Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 hey! i like the americans. come to ireland. youre prob from here originally anyways def sucker for your accent & plus irish guys need to be taught a thing or 2 about (ssh, dont say it....dating...oh jaysus!!!!)
pyroguy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Yes, as far as stereotypes go, I'd say this is a popular one. Yes, that's the way it always is, isn't it? Anyway, America may be a very powerful military machine and a strong capitalist country (or was) but as far as culture and sophistication are concerned, it can not compete with Europe. To the OP, if you're looking for someone who will appreciate an American male, I agree with the others, try the former Eastern Bloc countries and even then if only you have a big,fat wallet. Otherwise, just stick to American girls. And, this is exactly what I mean. So, we're only good for the former Eastern Bloc nations? because we're not good enough? or they are too stupid and desperate. Yes, American arrogance, only surpassed by insufferable European arrogance.
pyroguy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 This is very true. The image that people who live abroad have of Americans is very much shaped by the film and music industry and most of the stuff coming out is silly sitcoms, commercial cookie-cutter films and caucophonous sounds. Not to mention Americans' naive view of politics. That's not to say that quality stuff is not being produced, it is, but like Taramere pointed out, it gets lost in the general picture of things. And there it is again. Yes, Americans think they are superior, yet their view of politics are naive. Yes, Europeans have all the answers. Their politics are superior. Does anyone see the hypocrisy here? So many love to be so liberal, open minded, love the world, and want world harmony and equal treatment, yet those same people are the biggest haters and spreaders of propaganda I've ever seen.
temple Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I think American accents can definitely be very sexy. In my experience I found American men 'uncool' and by that I mean they seem to always be on the lookout for a date. (Yes I did once live in the USA). I don't like this whole idea of 'playing the dating game'... I'm glad we don't have that over here. European men tend to take it in their stride. I'm not condoning one over the other, I just have my preferences.
pyroguy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 [sIZE=4]Sorry to threadjack a bit, but this why some Americans get angry. It's not bravado or arrogance. It's being sick and tired of the insults. Keep in mind this was written by a Canadian..in 1973[/sIZE] [sIZE=4][/sIZE] [sIZE=4]The United States [/sIZE]dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the earth. As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtse. Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did. They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Misssissippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped. The Marshall Plan .. the Truman Policy .. all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans. I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes. Come on... let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 107? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or women on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everyone to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, most of them ... unless they are breaking Canadian laws .. are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here. When the Americans get out of this bind ... as they will... who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the Israel bonds, Let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke. This year's disasters .. with the year less than half-over… has taken it all and nobody...but nobody... has helped.
grogster Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Based on PBS and films like "Love Actually," which I loved, one gets the false impression that British guys all look like Colin Firth or Hugh Grant and have the wit and charm to match. Who do Americans have? Bruce Willis (bald and macho); Johnny Depp (twinky and macho). American male leads lack the sexual charisma of the Brits. While national origin as played out in the mating game makes for good conversational fodder (didn't the Colin Firth character in "Love Actually" bed a Portugese bar maid?), it's the individual characteristics that matter most: age, IQ, class, religion, penis size, etc. I wouldn't want a woman to desire me because I'm American but because of who I am.
Taramere Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 So, what's your point? I wouldn't sleep with Rush Limbaugh either . BAseless arrogance? and Europeans don't supply plenty of this? Of course. I've stated this in another post. It seems to me that people dislike haters and generalizations...except when it's aimed at Americans. If you travel, you will see this same perception of national victimhood all over the place. Which is one of the reasons it does pay to take an interest in other cultures. Then it's open season. I for one am sick of it. It's not bravado, it's called being proud of your country and not listening to the brainwashed rants of so-called open minded people. No. Once it spills over into anger, it invariably becomes bravado that is rooted in emotion rather than objectivity. It's one thing to take pride in your country, but if that pride depends on maintaining negative perceptions about the rest of the world then that breeds hostility. I was told by a male poster recently that there is some sort of groundswell of men rising up against women...and that the George Sodini incident of several months back is symptomatic of this. My response was along the lines of him being immersed in a mindset whereby this is what he sees....but it isn't necessarily reflective of reality. One thing I can see, however, is that almost invariably the threads that rant and whine about women are started up by American men. There might be the occasional British or Australian sympathiser, but by and large it seems to be an American thing. The complaints about women not dating shorter men. Men being expected to pay for dates etc etc. In amongst a lot of these complaints you find the most bitter commentary about society. What society can these guys complain about, other than the one they know? The one they live in? Why is it, if the US is such a fantastic place to live, that the angriest and unhappiest comments on this board come from American men? This is where I have a problem reconciling the oft expressed view that America is the greatest country in the world, best place to live etc, with the evidence. The distressing frequency with which people go postal and kill swathes of innocent parties. The poor lifestyle habits (overeating junk food, driving everywhere instead of walking or cycling) that contribute towards obesity. These problems exist elsewhere in the world, but not to the extent you see them in the US....though the flourishing in other parts of the world of junk food chains is starting to change that. More and more people are becoming obese, and it's related to the increase of junk food restaurants that started up in the US. The hatred that seems to abound towards women and foreigners - if the many rants on these subjects that I've seen from American men on the Internet is anything to go by. The perception that American men have been emasculated by a feminised society....when it seems so much more likely that what they've actually been emasculated by are artificial constructs presented by Hollywood and other merchants of make-believe as to what it means to be a man. This is what the US is currently exporting to the rest of the world. Obesity, dogmatic views and Hollywood makebelieve. Which is why the rest of the world raises a collective eyebrow in response to "USA USA USA" gung ho. And for the love of god, please stop thinking that anyone born in the USA came into the world with a silver spoon in their mouth. We generally work harder than any other nation. How do you know this? You've expressed a disinterest in other cultures, so how valid can any comparisons you make actually be? What is the aim of the hard work? To buy a bigger house, a bigger car...more things with which to impress others? If someone's working hard in a career such as, for instance, medicine - with the primary aim of saving lives or making lives a little better/more bearable then I can respect that. However, if the ultimate aim is to acquire goods with which one can impress others...and if the hard work consists (for example) of running a business geared towards helping others to get fatter or more addicted to something (McDonalds, Phillip Morris et al)....and if all this comes at the price of relationships, happiness and sanity, then it's a little harder to understand precisely what we're supposed to be standing up and applauding you for.
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