To the dating losers having a lot of friends make dating easier

[MissJoness]

to all the guys who feel they are losers and can't get a girl. the key is to have a lot of guy friends, and to always go out with them. usually when you are surrounded by a lot of friends it makes ppl of the opposite sex gravitate towards you

 

back when i had a circle of friends & when we went out, i met guys more often. usually when guys see a group of girls they would always approach. and somtimes one of the guys out of that circle liked me. not always but sometimes. it's a helluva lot better than how things are going for me now. i had more opportunities for hooking up back then too

 

for some reason when i am alone guys really dont approach. but the minute i am with a female friend or two talking, they will walk over and start to flirt. i guess you tend to look more approachable when you are socializing like talking, laughing, smiling all the time instead of always bieng alone and having your face fixed in a non approachable expression

[alphamale]

for some reason when i am alone guys really dont approach. but the minute i am with a female friend or two talking, they will walk over and start to flirt. i guess you tend to look more approachable when you are socializing like talking, laughing, smiling all the time instead of always bieng alone and having your face fixed in a non approachable expression

baloney, most men are intimidated by a group of women. for most guys a woman is much more approachable at a social event when she is by herself. smart single women know this instinctively and actively seperate themselves from the herd.

 

a lot of women will go out to some social function in a large group and spend the entire evening talking with themselves and then wonder why they didn't meet any guys

[Bejita463]

baloney, most men are intimidated by a group of women. for most guys a woman is much more approachable at a social event when she is by herself. smart single women know this instinctively and actively seperate themselves from the herd.

 

Nonsense! Everyone likes risking a rejection to as full an audience as they can manage. Next time I try to ask a lady out, I am considering renting an auditorium for just that reason.

[MissJoness]

baloney, most men are intimidated by a group of women. for most guys a woman is much more approachable at a social event when she is by herself. smart single women know this instinctively and actively seperate themselves from the herd.

 

a lot of women will go out to some social function in a large group and spend the entire evening talking with themselves and then wonder why they didn't meet any guys

not a large group but if you were with one or two other women. from my experience if i am with one or two other girls, guys will appproach especially at the mall.

[MissJoness]

Nonsense! Everyone likes risking a rejection to as full an audience as they can manage. Next time I try to ask a lady out, I am considering renting an auditorium for just that reason.

does 3 women together represent an auditorium of ppl?

[Bejita463]

does 3 women together represent an auditorium of ppl?

 

Close enough as makes no difference, to me. Hell, I tell my own friends to bug off if I am going to ask a lady out. I don't want any audience to a success, and I want it less for a failure.

[alphamale]

not a large group but if you were with one or two other women. from my experience if i am with one or two other girls, guys will appproach especially at the mall.

when i see multiple women together they are so engrossed in themselves and their conversation that very few men would approach them

[MissJoness]

when i see multiple women together they are so engrossed in themselves and their conversation that very few men would approach them

this happens all the time maybe youre just not the type of guy to do it. a few months ago when i was in the library with a friend, some guy was butting in our conversation trying to flirt.

[threebyfate]

to all the guys who feel they are losers and can't get a girl. the key is to have a lot of guy friends,

I disagree. The key is to have a large social network so you're exposed to more women, hence increase your opportunities for finding a match.

[MissJoness]

I disagree. The key is to have a large social network so you're exposed to more women, hence increase your opportunities for finding a match.

It's harder to do w/o friends, though. When you have friends, it makes it easier to be exposed to other ppl of the opposite sex. The friends may be a lot more outgoing than you are & can connect you with other ppl. Some of the ppl on here are not social butterflies its impossible to have a large social network if you dont have any outgoing friends to help you

[meerkat stew]

I prefer to approach two women obviously out together more than one single woman. Two is optimal for me. Between 3 and 5, things can get tricky. Groups of this size tend to play more games with each other and the men who approach them IME. If it's more than 5, I will approach the whole group without hesitation and start displaying to the whole group innocuously. Large groups tend to compete for men who approach them moreso than the medium group. In the medium group, there will usually be one who wants to make a point of rejecting you or embarrassing you in front of the others. Again, just my experience.

[temple]

In the medium group, there will usually be one who wants to make a point of rejecting you or embarrassing you in front of the others. Again, just my experience.

 

Ha! That's really interesting! I wonder why that is..

[threebyfate]

It's harder to do w/o friends, though. When you have friends, it makes it easier to be exposed to other ppl of the opposite sex. The friends may be a lot more outgoing than you are & can connect you with other ppl. Some of the ppl on here are not social butterflies its impossible to have a large social network if you dont have any outgoing friends to help you

Networking, includes doing so at work or through hobbies. The more contacts, the more opportunities, both romantically and from a career perspective. As long as you don't date too close for comfort, within the same department or within the same line of reporting, it's all good.

[alphamale]

this happens all the time maybe youre just not the type of guy to do it. a few months ago when i was in the library with a friend, some guy was butting in our conversation trying to flirt.

i usually approach women in socially appropriate places (bars, parties, single events, etc..). aproaching chicks in public places such as target, the library, the mall is usually futile and a waste of time

[paddington bear]

I've found the opposite to be true. If I'm on my own, guys are more likely to approach. And I don't blame them, if I was male there is NO WAY I would approach a bunch of women. Not to mention any poor brave souls who were brave enough to talk to me when I was with friends, those friends would mercilessly take the piss out of me or him and generally go out of their way to make both parties feel very embarrassed.

 

Read a dating guide recently in a newspaper and one of the points for women was to ditch the friends who can mess things up for you totally. I don't like an audience either. I like to flirt in peace without everyone feeling like they can give a running commentary and try to embarrass me over it.

 

Maybe if you're young and hanging out in malls it is different, but if you're not so young, and hanging out in bars and clubs and restaurants I would say it's a whole different story. However, I take the point that when you are laughing and happy that you seem more approachable - laughing hysterically while on your own in a mall might get you some unwanted attention...

[MissJoness]

Networking, includes doing so at work or through hobbies. The more contacts, the more opportunities, both romantically and from a career perspective. As long as you don't date too close for comfort, within the same department or within the same line of reporting, it's all good.

Yeah but this only works for ppl who are very outgoing and don't have problems getting a date in the first place

 

a lot of the posters here who are not successful in dating are introverts/ and lack confidence/self esteem so having friends who have those qualities helps them out

[alphamale]

I've found the opposite to be true. If I'm on my own, guys are more likely to approach.

thats what i meant...

 

 

Read a dating guide recently in a newspaper and one of the points for women was to ditch the friends who can mess things up for you totally....

not only that but some of those female "friends" may actively attempt to sabotage you from hooking up with some dude

[MissJoness]

i usually approach women in socially appropriate places (bars, parties, single events, etc..). aproaching chicks in public places such as target, the library, the mall is usually futile and a waste of time

 

a lot of guys do this. you just dont do it.

[MissJoness]

not only that but some of those female "friends" may actively attempt to sabotage you from hooking up with some dude

 

like how? give an example

[monkey00]

If I were by myself I would approach a girl that's by herself. Personally I find it hard to approach a pack of wolves in the bar/club even if I'm with a friend. Even if there is one woman in the group that's interested, they all might act collectively and give the guy the cold shoulder.

[MissJoness]

If I were by myself I would approach a girl that's by herself. Personally I find it hard to approach a pack of wolves in the bar/club even if I'm with a friend. Even if there is one woman in the group that's interested, they all might act collectively and give the guy the cold shoulder.

I guess the men who do approach women in small groups dont post here. when i went out with a friend or two there was always a guy who would approach us or had something to say about us being together.

[carhill]

I guess the men who do approach women in small groups dont post here. when i went out with a friend or two there was always a guy who would approach us or had something to say about us being together.

Those guys have girlfriends and don't read these threads

 

I'm struggling to think of one man in my circle of business colleagues and friends who is single.....hmm.... let me get back to you.... since, in my case, it would be their wives 'fixing' me up, I'll leave that scary thought for another day

[MissJoness]

many of the ppl are suggesting bars, clubs to go meet ppl yet this is considered one of the worst places to look for a relationship

 

I never go to bars. Men are usually a little drunk and can say really nasty, cruel things to women.

[paddington bear]

not only that but some of those female "friends" may actively attempt to sabotage you from hooking up with some dude

 

Oh yeah! I've had that happen a lot, a LOT, it turned me into a woman-hater for a while, if you can't even trust your closest friends not to screw you over when it comes to men, who can you trust?

 

Happens due to female competition, insecurity or just plain old bitchiness. Can happen because:

 

a less attractive friend is bitter she's not getting the attention,

 

a more attractive friend who is the girl that normally gets the attention getting pissed that she's not the centre of the universe for once

 

your friends have decided the guy is not good enough or whatever and intervene on your behalf to 'save' you from making a mistake - but I never buy this excuse

 

...and so on and on and on...(I am no longer 'close' friends with any women who behave like this by the way, life is too short to be worried about being stabbed in the back by your best friend due to competitiveness over men)

[carhill]

It is somewhat fascinating to read about how those whom women often prioritize over their partners (men are transitory but friends are forever) get to that place with this dynamic in play. Fascinating stuff....just gotta say...