b52s Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Ever noticed, if it's a bunch of guys getting together to go out, and it's only guys it's known as a "Sausage Party", which is basically a negative connotation ...why, because men don't like spending time at a gathering if there's no women around. Some say, "Screw this I'm going home, there's no women" (Guess that's why ladies night was invented, but that's another topic) But, if it's a bunch of women giong out, it's called "Girls Night Out" "Guys Night Out" just doesn't seem to work or sound as well as the "Girls" one. I think they only time that "Guys Night Out" is appropriate, is when they're married men taking a break from the wives for poker night in their garage playing poker or sitting casually watching a game at a bar. You hardly EVER hear of SINGLE/Unattached men hanging out together by themselves somewhere UNLESS there is an actual agenda......to MEET women. But otherwise, if the event doesn't entail other single women....bye bye. Esp, when women don't even show up. Like I've noticed events that are geared more towards "women only" than with men. Or even places of business. Now, I might tie this into the fact that sometimes women go out of their way to AVOID men more so than men avoiding women. Agreed?
Stockalone Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 "Guys Night Out" just doesn't seem to work or sound as well as the "Girls" one. Why not? You hardly EVER hear of SINGLE/Unattached men hanging out together by themselves somewhere UNLESS there is an actual agenda......to MEET women. But otherwise, if the event doesn't entail other single women....bye bye. Esp, when women don't even show up. I used to hang out with my friends many times without the agenda of meeting women. In fact, meeting women was basically never the reason we got together. We play board games (we have been doing that since we were teenagers, some 15+ years now), we go to the movies, we go to soccer matches, we have drinks and talk, just catching up, etc. Now my friends are married or in LTR's, but we still do those things without the wifes or girlfriends. The wifes and girlfriends do their own thing or hang out together too.
sagetalk Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I hang out with my guy friends and we watch football and basketball games. There are no women there except maybe someone's wife. There are guys like you described (I know some) and all they care about is sex. I like to live a much more meaningful life than that.
Author b52s Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 Why not? I used to hang out with my friends many times without the agenda of meeting women. In fact, meeting women was basically never the reason we got together. We play board games (we have been doing that since we were teenagers, some 15+ years now), we go to the movies, we go to soccer matches, we have drinks and talk, just catching up, etc. Now my friends are married or in LTR's, but we still do those things without the wifes or girlfriends. The wifes and girlfriends do their own thing or hang out together too. Interesting....as soon as my friends got married, them and their wives wound up joined at the hip and never do anything with their other friends. Came close, would have something scheduled when then wife asked the hubby to cancel his plans, because she had plans with him. My friendships with my married friends fizzled eventually, so I had to go out and find more (single) friends, or friends who didn't do stuff with their wives ALL the time. I guess it's because single friends can relate to each other more than married ones.
Malenfant Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 i've never heard of 'sausage night'. thats hilarious. I've always known it as 'girls night' and 'boys night' Men often go to men only nights where they can do manly stuff like having farting contests without the disaproval of their women folk!! (farting used as an example )
Author b52s Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 i've never heard of 'sausage night'. thats hilarious. I've always known it as 'girls night' and 'boys night' Men often go to men only nights where they can do manly stuff like having farting contests without the disaproval of their women folk!! (farting used as an example ) Yeah, one time there was a singles group that gathered together for a short day in the park hike....only men showed up, I stuck around, but a couple of guys said "Screw this' and left.
Malenfant Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Yeah, one time there was a singles group that gathered together for a short day in the park hike....only men showed up, I stuck around, but a couple of guys said "Screw this' and left. ah, you're talking about a group of single guys? that would maybe explain it a bit. IME boys nights are generally set up by men who have partners, as a bit of escapism. nothing wrong with that. single guys dont need to get away for a bit of 'me' time with their peers., they're probably more interested in meeting women, understandably.
Author b52s Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 ah, you're talking about a group of single guys? that would maybe explain it a bit. IME boys nights are generally set up by men who have partners, as a bit of escapism. nothing wrong with that. single guys dont need to get away for a bit of 'me' time with their peers., they're probably more interested in meeting women, understandably. Right, and in the mean time, single women sometimes go out of their WAY to avoid these very men....ie going to gay bars.
Malenfant Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Right, and in the mean time, single women sometimes go out of their WAY to avoid these very men....ie going to gay bars. hmmm... i can understand why women would want to avoid predatory men. Its not as if women always want to be around straight guys after all. The gay bar thing is interesting though isnt it? women like men who dont like them! Gay men are obviously the opposite to predatory straight guys, and the ones that frequent bars and clubs are most likely into partying and having a good time. so women get to enjoy the masculine company without fear of being hit on. I think the guys that you're referring to are so single minded in their mission to bed a lady that its quite obvious and is very off-putting to most women, unless they are just after a bonk as well.
Author b52s Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 hmmm... i can understand why women would want to avoid predatory men. Its not as if women always want to be around straight guys after all. The gay bar thing is interesting though isnt it? women like men who dont like them! Gay men are obviously the opposite to predatory straight guys, and the ones that frequent bars and clubs are most likely into partying and having a good time. so women get to enjoy the masculine company without fear of being hit on. I think the guys that you're referring to are so single minded in their mission to bed a lady that its quite obvious and is very off-putting to most women, unless they are just after a bonk as well. Um....why did you use the word "Predatory" in regards to straight guys. This could be an entire topic by the way. First of all this is a strawman fallacy. And you're just assuming a single guy is "predatory"?? Sorry, but that's a very ignorant attitude you have there.
Malenfant Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Um....why did you use the word "Predatory" in regards to straight guys. This could be an entire topic by the way. First of all this is a strawman fallacy. And you're just assuming a single guy is "predatory"?? Sorry, but that's a very ignorant attitude you have there. oh and there i was thinking we were having a nice discussion!! from a woman's POV single men who only want to hang around with women and dont see any benefit from the social company of other men alone would be construed as being a tad predatory, as they are only willing to put themselves into social situations where there is a possibility of them getting laid. and the fact that women distance themselves from such men (as you stated) tends to prove my opinion isn't in fact ignorant, but based on behavioural observations. i'm not saying all single men are predatory, just that you seem to be describing men who could be viewed as such by women. you're a bit hasty to call a person ignorant.
Devil Inside Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I often kick it with my boys. We go out and watch a game, or get a drink, or whatever. Sausage party is often used when you show up at a party, look around, and all you see is guys when you were expecting women. However, when you go out to just hang with your guy friends...I don't see it having that connotation. Hanging out with your brothers is really important. Sometimes you need to get perspective that you can only get by being with other men. Women are smart and understand how same sex friendships and get togethers are beneficial for mental health. Probably why they live longer.
Vertex Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I see nothing wrong with guys/girls night out. Never heard it specifically referred to as a "Sausage Party" though, lmfao, although you might call something a "Sausage Fest" if you're holding a party (expecting women) and only guys show up. But get-togethers with friends aren't typically in that category at all. I hang out with friends of both sexes all the time (either mixed or standalone), so I can't say I relate to your post.
Author b52s Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 oh and there i was thinking we were having a nice discussion!! from a woman's POV single men who only want to hang around with women and dont see any benefit from the social company of other men alone would be construed as being a tad predatory, as they are only willing to put themselves into social situations where there is a possibility of them getting laid. and the fact that women distance themselves from such men (as you stated) tends to prove my opinion isn't in fact ignorant, but based on behavioural observations. i'm not saying all single men are predatory, just that you seem to be describing men who could be viewed as such by women. you're a bit hasty to call a person ignorant. No, I didn't call you ignorant, just referred to the attitude. Come on, some men would like to be in the company of women without just soley getting laid.
DiscoChick Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 My brother and our male friends do this all the time...like three nights a week. Well, we are a large group of nerds, but they gather and play video games/watch television or movies/ or go out. They are all single, except my cousin who is trying online dating (he has been in an online relationship for almost two years now). The only time they consciously go "we have to look for girls" is when they go out of town. They go out of town maybe every Saturday or Sunday. I hang out with them sometimes, and I don't find them awkward an any situation. Well, there was this one time they went to a party and this drunk guy thought my cousin was a chick...I wish I had been there (ROFL). There are seven of them and three are in a relationship, but they still manage to hang out whenever they want, minus the stigma.
Author b52s Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 I often kick it with my boys. We go out and watch a game, or get a drink, or whatever. Sausage party is often used when you show up at a party, look around, and all you see is guys when you were expecting women. However, when you go out to just hang with your guy friends...I don't see it having that connotation. Hanging out with your brothers is really important. Sometimes you need to get perspective that you can only get by being with other men. Women are smart and understand how same sex friendships and get togethers are beneficial for mental health. Probably why they live longer. Yeah, you do make a point there about how it could be beneficial to your health, that one needs to get together occasionally with same sexes....I just know that women do it more often than men do (at least single ones). Just from MY experience.
Malenfant Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 No, I didn't call you ignorant, just referred to the attitude. Come on, some men would like to be in the company of women without just soley getting laid. oh OK, i'll just say that people are pretty much defined by their attitudes. its difficult to insult a person's attitude without insulting them as well i'll try not to take offence next time i'm glad we sorted that out!! oh of course men like women's company for company alone, i have many male friends who are platonic, i was just discussing your point about women avoiding certain men and why they might do that. hypothetical reasoning, not actually my own view on men you understand
Woggle Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Men don't know how to enjoy each other's comapny anymore. We are too fixated on women to just drop that for a 2nd and have a good time with the guys. It's one of the reasons I enjoy hanging out with some of the old timers. It is because they know how to kick back and have fun with each other.
Devil Inside Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Yeah, you do make a point there about how it could be beneficial to your health, that one needs to get together occasionally with same sexes....I just know that women do it more often than men do (at least single ones). Just from MY experience. I agree that single women do spend more time with their girlfriends then guys do with their boys. However, thinking back, a good night out with the boys laughing, talking about life, and bonding...it's hard to beat that.
Malenfant Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I agree that single women do spend more time with their girlfriends then guys do with their boys. However, thinking back, a good night out with the boys laughing, talking about life, and bonding...it's hard to beat that. you cant beat a good night out with people of the same sex IMO. all those things you naturally have in common. its healthy, and fun!
Devil Inside Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 you cant beat a good night out with people of the same sex IMO. all those things you naturally have in common. its healthy, and fun! It's all about balance. I need a good dose of testosterone to balance out all the women I work with. I am in a field dominated by women, and while I immensely enjoy my colleagues, I need to have some guy time too.
Vintage79 Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 It's definintely about balance - I go out with my guy friends pretty often. I don't think there's a negative connotation unless you're using the group of guys with the explicit intent of picking up the ladies. Meaning you go to a club and surround them all, parties, etc. If you kind of stay off to yourself and just enjoy the company, nobody cares. The sausage fest comment by the OP - kind of strange, maybe his friends are too focuse on ladies, desperate, or actually don't like each other all that much...just using to kill time to find the lady.
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