Des Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I never said most people. Why dont you google it and see how many people are into it? Its comparable in popularity to foot fetishes for example. Which are uncommon... Again about the Internet and grains of salt. Don't allow Internet porn to persuade your thinking about what is common or acceptable in terms of the real world. They had a conversation about it, she told him. big deal. Imagine if no-one ever said anything they thought they might be judged for. would it be better if everyone kept anything even slightly iffy to themselves? better that we all lie to each other about what we truely want? Now we're comparing keeping hush on a strange, universally revolting fetish to never telling anyone anything? This is beyond "slightly iffy". I don't think I even need to say that... In this case where a few people desire to be urinated on... well, it wouldn't necessarily hurt the progress of mankind if no one ever told. In fact, it might even make us look a little more civilized among the other animals. since when do sexual tendancies have to be moral or ethical? people dont choose what turns them on. blimey He was simply suggesting one was more or less than the other. The simple fact is we've turned sex into something that it is not, in a countless number of ways. Some things are simply by their nature more deviant and immoral, our gut feeling tells us this. I would argue that people do have a level of self-control, though. 100 years ago perhaps there was a discussion about a Big Problem with the fetish of a woman who liked sperm ejaculated on her face. Today... that practice is not so abnormal. Today the fetish that is abnormal is that of a 'golden shower'. Have we advanced sexually or declined? I say it's backwards that we slide. The farther removed we become from nature and from ourselves, the more we decline. We can call it "animal sex", until the day we realize animals don't pee on each other for sexual high. Today it all seems to be about doing what you know you shouldn't do, rather than what you should. I don't believe so.. the Original poster himself has mentioned that he reacted and handled the news poorly... How can you blame him? I would've handle it poorly, most people would handle it poorly. Yeah... apologize for his natural reaction to something so off the wall and obviously revolting to him. That's insane. I still say no apology is in order, let this be another small life lesson.
jw90063 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I personally said it "could" indicate underlying issues, but I honestly think for the most part it does. I think it's silly to completely brush off the fact that, they may have further issues. I'm also not saying, in all cases, does it necessarily mean they are f'd in the head. Maybe 1% are not. :laugh:I think wanting to be pissed on indicates she has low self esteem issues if anything. The fact that she thinks she is no better than to be dumped on/urinated is a red flag in my book. To me it seems highly perverted and disgusting, but that's just me. The only time I've heard much about urinating on someone, was this video I saw on youtube once. It was jokingly making fun of this singer about him urinating on girls. Not sure if he actually liked to pee on them or not. He was in court with child pornography chargers. Apparently most people see the act is absurd. The OP has every right to be freaked out over this. Yes, there are worse things, but come on. I'm getting sick of people expecting someone to not pass judgmental, and look past some of the craziest things. Gotta draw the line somewhere. I think that's pointless to even ask the girl WHY she wants to do that. Of course they don't know. They are confused.
Stockalone Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 She wants me to give her a GOLDEN SHOWER. I am sure that "Grandmaster B" (or should I say Grandmaster P ) would have done it. Seriously though, I can understand why you feel it's gross. I wouldn't do it either. You already apologized for reacting so harshly, which is good. Your reaction itself wasn't wrong, just the way you expressed it was a bit too harsh. I already apologized to her about how I said it. She wants me to come over on Saturday to make me dinner. I think that I could get things back on track without a problem. You're right, if I continue to bring it up it would just stunt the growth process. I agree that brining it up again this soon is not a good idea. That said, I would want to know where to go from here eventually. Since she hasn't tried it yet, does she need to try it or is she okay if you guys never do the golden shower fantasy? And as you already mentioned, what other fantasies does she have, or rather what sexual needs does she have? Is there something she needs that is out of your comfort and you'd never do that? Will she hold back or be honest with you? And what about your fantasies and needs? I think it is best to talk about those things before getting too involved/attached. If there are potential deal-breakers, I think it's better to know sooner, rather than later.
Vertex Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 No it's not, it's good advice taking into consideration DustySaltus' feelings on the matter. Something others here are failing to do. If he had said he was curious to see what this is about I would be giving him completely different advice. But for someone to come on here and tell him basically to suck it up and accept her request as something "natural and fine" as if she had asked him to kiss her neck, is sheer insanity. You're missing the point. You're only focusing on one side of the equation, here. It's usually a good idea to take the feelings of the other person involved into account as well, since there's no real reason to intentionally debase someone for something harmless (i.e. a sexual preference). You think giving her a jar of pee is a reasonable parting action. That is clearly an immature way to deal with it, since it basically conveys an antagonistic view and judgment that is without warrant. Yes, a desire for being peed on is far less common than a desire to be kissed on the neck, but you're vastly misjudging how "uncommon" such a desire is. Nobody here is telling someone to accept it as "equally natural," but rather that the desire is not as uncommon as he may have initially thought. Either way, his reaction was a bit tactless and could have been handled better.
Author DustySaltus Posted January 8, 2010 Author Posted January 8, 2010 I am sure that "Grandmaster B" (or should I say Grandmaster P ) would have done it. Seriously though, I can understand why you feel it's gross. I wouldn't do it either. You already apologized for reacting so harshly, which is good. Your reaction itself wasn't wrong, just the way you expressed it was a bit too harsh. I agree that brining it up again this soon is not a good idea. That said, I would want to know where to go from here eventually. Since she hasn't tried it yet, does she need to try it or is she okay if you guys never do the golden shower fantasy? And as you already mentioned, what other fantasies does she have, or rather what sexual needs does she have? Is there something she needs that is out of your comfort and you'd never do that? Will she hold back or be honest with you? And what about your fantasies and needs? I think it is best to talk about those things before getting too involved/attached. If there are potential deal-breakers, I think it's better to know sooner, rather than later. It's a lonely life for grandmaster b lol... After I apologized for the way I reacted, she asked me a few more times, "So you would NEVER do it"? I said ABSOLUTELY NOT. She seemed disappointed and that was that. I'm just not going to bring up fantasies in GENERAL for a while. Let me enjoy my dinner and weekend with her...but I will sleep with one eye open and a raincoat .
Lizzie60 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 It's a lonely life for grandmaster b lol... After I apologized for the way I reacted, she asked me a few more times, "So you would NEVER do it"? I said ABSOLUTELY NOT. She seemed disappointed and that was that. I'm just not going to bring up fantasies in GENERAL for a while. Let me enjoy my dinner and weekend with her...but I will sleep with one eye open and a raincoat . raincoat.. I agree..she does have tissues..
Stockalone Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 It's a lonely life for grandmaster b lol... It usually was a lonely life for most of Bud's alter egos. After I apologized for the way I reacted, she asked me a few more times, "So you would NEVER do it"? I said ABSOLUTELY NOT. She seemed disappointed and that was that. I'm just not going to bring up fantasies in GENERAL for a while. Let me enjoy my dinner and weekend with her...but I will sleep with one eye open and a raincoat . Absolutely, enjoy dinner and the weekend with her. Let get things get back to "normal" again and see how it goes. All I am saying is that IMO you should have that talk at some point, if you can see this relationship going in the right direction. Otherwise, this fantasy could turn into the huge elephant in the room.
DolceVenganza Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 If you don't want her, send her my way. I will see if there is chemistry. You should feel fortunate that she 'confided' in you about sexual fetish. Unless she does that on all 1st, 2nd, or 3rd dates, there must be something special there. 1) Firstly, who cares? EVERY person underneath what we perceive them to be is more complex then we will ever imagine. And it's entirely possible that any guy who is married today finds out his Gf/WIFE wants to be ran train on by a squadron of marines. Who's to know? We seek a person who is permanent, but the nature of humanity is anything but. We are chaotic beings given to wild emotions and drastic changes. If peeing on her is your biggest problem with some of today's women, consider yourself lucky. It sounds like you could have a wild woman on your hands, which is alot better than a woman who begins lock down mode on her vag. 2) Yes, his reaction is more damaging than what she said. We are men. Men are intended to shoulder such burdens. There could have been a much different reaction. Keep in mind, first impressions are a BIG deal, especially so in a relationship when confiding about such deep and personal things. Imagine if you, the man, opened up about some fetish to your woman and she not only shot it down, but made you feel bad for having it. What would you feel now? If you don't like it, you don't like. Just don't drag her along. No one here can make you want that, but knowing how many women can be, she will desire that at some future point and remember this moment for a long, long time.
Des Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 but those reasons don't mean they're necessarily indicative of deepseated issues in everyday relationship interaction or everyday life. Like Malenfant said, she may be submissive in the bedroom, but that doesn't mean she isn't a take-charge type outside of that. Sounds like you've read one too many clichéd hypothetical two page essays about sexual domination and submission from quick Google searches. Those two statements sort of contradict themselves, and do nothing to prove your argument. In this case, wouldn't the issue be with the conditions of her everyday social life and interaction? Some sort of lack of balance, perhaps. You seem to think that anything considered sexually deviant should just be repressed out of fear of judgment, and to me, that is the very definition of a narrow view perspective. I'm calling on people to question the deviance, to get to the bottom of it. Not to merely act on it on a whim and just go with whatever you feel like a the moment. That's the problem, that little moment of gratification blinds us to the reasons why we do such odd, disgusting, degrading things to each other for pleasure. Trust me, there's a better way than peeing on each other. If you find someone's attitudes/preferences for something disgusting, you have every right to break it off. But do it for the right reasons, at the very least! Nobody wants to be judged and pigeonholed for something that isn't a be-all-end-all summary of their persona. You're not being realistic about this. This would be the right reason, would it not? Dusty did find it shocking and disgusting, be he chose not to break it off... that's his decision. If it would have been me, who's to say I would be in the wrong to have simple said "Okay... good luck with that.", and walked out? Maybe you don't think someone wanting to be peed on says anything about them, but it does to a lot of reasonable, everyday people. You're not being realistic about it. You're ready to fight tooth-and-nail that wanting to be peed on is some sort of natural human desire with no connection to any psychological problem.... and I'm not here to argue that. I realize that idea threatens the validity of whatever fetish you have, so you probably can't be reasoned with.
Des Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I personally said it "could" indicate underlying issues, but I honestly think for the most part it does. I think it's silly to completely brush off the fact that, they may have further issues. I'm also not saying, in all cases, does it necessarily mean they are f'd in the head. Maybe 1% are not. :laugh:I think wanting to be pissed on indicates she has low self esteem issues if anything. The fact that she thinks she is no better than to be dumped on/urinated is a red flag in my book. To me it seems highly perverted and disgusting, but that's just me. The only time I've heard much about urinating on someone, was this video I saw on youtube once. It was jokingly making fun of this singer about him urinating on girls. Not sure if he actually liked to pee on them or not. He was in court with child pornography chargers. Apparently most people see the act is absurd. The OP has every right to be freaked out over this. Yes, there are worse things, but come on. I'm getting sick of people expecting someone to not pass judgmental, and look past some of the craziest things. Gotta draw the line somewhere. I think that's pointless to even ask the girl WHY she wants to do that. Of course they don't know. They are confused. Thank you...
Vertex Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I think we'll just have to agree to disagree, Des. You think it's absurdly uncommon, whereas I think it's probably more common than you realize. You think it's indicative of a psychological issue, and I think there's no such evidence to back up that kind of claim. There are many, many comparable sexual acts that are not fundamentally different in their nature and yet are more socially acceptable, and yet we would not say they are insane or psychologically "off." One is free to make their own calls regarding whether or not to stay with someone who possesses a particular desire, but I do think it is unreasonable to make extrapolations about one's psychological state when the evidence doesn't support it very strongly.
Art_Critic Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 For those posters who feel that wanting a golden shower is a sign that they have a mental issue. Could you tell me which mental condition they would have ? and low self esteem isn't what those posters are talking about Low self esteem isn't a condition that should prompt the hateful responses I've seen in this thread.. Many people have low self esteem and have wonderful relationships and don't have mental conditions... ie:.. when a person goes thru a breakup they take a hit to their self esteem.. does that mean they have a mental condition and therefore should be non dateable ?
Des Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I think we'll just have to agree to disagree, Des. You think it's absurdly uncommon, whereas I think it's probably more common than you realize. You think it's indicative of a psychological issue, and I think there's no such evidence to back up that kind of claim. There are many, many comparable sexual acts that are not fundamentally different in their nature and yet are more socially acceptable, and yet we would not say they are insane or psychologically "off." Well... to throw this out there. Just because you could probably fill up Yankee Stadium with the amount of people who like this sort of thing doesn't mean it's not absurdly uncommon, as there are 6 billion people in the world. And yes, I do take issue with those "similar" acts that are more socially expectable because they're fundamentally the same. One is free to make their own calls regarding whether or not to stay with someone who possesses a particular desire, but I do think it is unreasonable to make extrapolations about one's psychological state when the evidence doesn't support it very strongly. Red flags. Maybe you don't get them, or maybe you need a psychologist by your side to determine when something isn't right. Personally, I don't need a professional to tell me Charles Manson isn't right in the head, I tell judging by what he has said.
New_Life08 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 If April showers bring May flowers, I wonder what golden showers would bring?
silic0ntoad Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 IDK man... the more I think about it, if it got my girl off, I'd do it.
New_Life08 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Some people enjoy the kinkiness of bodily fluids, including feces, to the point of eating it . Some ppl enjoy pain, some like to be choked. I am curious as to what brings a person to these extremes of erotica? Did they simply just run out of ideas? Seriously....WTF?
Ms. Joolie Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 One is free to make their own calls regarding whether or not to stay with someone who possesses a particular desire, but I do think it is unreasonable to make extrapolations about one's psychological state when the evidence doesn't support it very strongly. When the right questions are asked, science will support evidence for or against something. The questions regarding the fetish of this woman perhaps have not been sufficiently asked for science (whether biologically or psychologically) to provide evidence of/against the situation. But stating opinions of any range, whether for or against, this fetish seems completely acceptable. So to question the sanity or the fetish is acceptable discussion. It is reasonable even to make extrapolations about one's psychological state even when there is no evidence to back those statements for the sake of discussion. In other words, it's no use arguing with someone against their opinion on here, even when they start questioning the sanity (or expressing the insanity) of an act/desire/person.
Vertex Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Well... to throw this out there. Just because you could probably fill up Yankee Stadium with the amount of people who like this sort of thing doesn't mean it's not absurdly uncommon, as there are 6 billion people in the world. And yes, I do take issue with those "similar" acts that are more socially expectable because they're fundamentally the same. Red flags. Maybe you don't get them, or maybe you need a psychologist by your side to determine when something isn't right. Personally, I don't need a professional to tell me Charles Manson isn't right in the head, I tell judging by what he has said. Of course Charles Manson isn't right in the head -- I don't know why people who take the opposing position here propose such extreme examples as comparable. Totally different ballpark. And yes, red flags are just red flags -- but a red flag by itself is not necessarily a dealbreaker. Red flags are merely warnings, and when the evidence piles up to support a red flag, then it's a "stronger" flag. But in this case, what's the red flag pointing to? You can't possibly say it indicates anything with any degree of reasonable certainty, and even if you could, what type of issue would you insinuate? A form of submissive pleasure? There are all sorts of other "sane" acts that follows that suit. We associate "urine" with "dirtiness" because it's a waste output, even though it is technically sterile. We learn from a young age that it's a fairly dirty thing, since peeing on the floor or in your pants/etc is considered a "messy" act. And yet we associate something like semen with something that is "unpleasant" to some but more acceptable to many because it's not "waste" material. But, just like urine, semen is safe and can taste/smell just as bad. Yet we wouldn't say someone's psychologically screwed or that it's a "red flag" if a woman enjoys it when a man ejaculates on their chest. Contrarily, you think it's fundamentally flawed for someone to enjoy the sensation of urine simply because of its prior association?
Lizzie60 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 If April showers bring May flowers, I wonder what golden showers would bring? Golden showers would bring Golden Rod.. (flower)..
silic0ntoad Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 IDK. My fantasies don't involve anything ridiculous. Although, as far as a fetish, I think it only goes so far as thigh high boots/stockings and garters. Then again, I think that's common. As far as urinating/defecating or coprophagia is concerned, I haven't dabbled in that realm and have no desire to do so. IDK why anyone would, but to each their own, although, I don't agree that that specific mannerism in sexual expression shows even remotely a sense of complexity. Another thing, I am a giver myself, so if my girl wants something, I do it, normally. Then I take. But she gets off first, IDK, I've never been able to finish if my girl doesn't finish first.
Vertex Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 When the right questions are asked, science will support evidence for or against something. The questions regarding the fetish of this woman perhaps have not been sufficiently asked for science (whether biologically or psychologically) to provide evidence of/against the situation. But stating opinions of any range, whether for or against, this fetish seems completely acceptable. So to question the sanity or the fetish is acceptable discussion. It is reasonable even to make extrapolations about one's psychological state even when there is no evidence to back those statements for the sake of discussion. In other words, it's no use arguing with someone against their opinion on here, even when they start questioning the sanity (or expressing the insanity) of an act/desire/person. We have a somewhat thorough understanding of various sexual desires and fetishes and their psychological roots. Some are easier to justify than others. It isn't "reasonable" to make an evidenceless extrapolation about someone's psychological state -- it's illogical to do so. Whether or not you wish to act on logic or illogic is your decision. "Do you like vanilla ice cream? Then you must be a boring person and I can't date you." Obviously, such a statement is a bit flawed since it completely ignores all other associations that may contradict the claim. It's not "reasonable" to extrapolate this. In the scenario of the fetish, you have a slightly more complex associative array present, but it's hardly indicative of psych issues (unless you judge someone's mental health by the deviation of their sexual practices as an independent function from their everyday life practices).
silic0ntoad Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Of course Charles Manson isn't right in the head -- I don't know why people who take the opposing position here propose such extreme examples as comparable. Totally different ballpark. And yes, red flags are just red flags -- but a red flag by itself is not necessarily a dealbreaker. Red flags are merely warnings, and when the evidence piles up to support a red flag, then it's a "stronger" flag. But in this case, what's the red flag pointing to? You can't possibly say it indicates anything with any degree of reasonable certainty, and even if you could, what type of issue would you insinuate? A form of submissive pleasure? There are all sorts of other "sane" acts that follows that suit. We associate "urine" with "dirtiness" because it's a waste output, even though it is technically sterile. We learn from a young age that it's a fairly dirty thing, since peeing on the floor or in your pants/etc is considered a "messy" act. And yet we associate something like semen with something that is "unpleasant" to some but more acceptable to many because it's not "waste" material. But, just like urine, semen is safe and can taste/smell just as bad. Yet we wouldn't say someone's psychologically screwed or that it's a "red flag" if a woman enjoys it when a man ejaculates on their chest. Contrarily, you think it's fundamentally flawed for someone to enjoy the sensation of urine simply because of its prior association? I think its fundamentally flawed, yes. I don't see any connotation between the representation of life creation (semen) vrs. waste product (urine). Sociological experiments may exist on the subject but I haven't checked them out to find any hard evidence. I don't buy your arguments, however. Consumption of semen, or "money shots" are considered a turn on because they represent the release, or orgasm, of a partner. In many cultures it is considered sacred. Urine on the other hand, is not, in pretty much any culture. I still think the subject is taboo, but I don't think any right minded person would enjoy being defecated/urinated on. It only scratches the surface of underlaying issues which are expressed through sex, but may alter other things and affect other things in the relationship. If this represents social and sexual complexity then I am glad to be simply, because anyone who tries to piss on me will usually be met by a steel toed boot smashing into their chest. Then again, I would be open to the idea of doing that FOR my partner only after alot of coercion and if she convinced me it was the only way for her to orgasm. Otherwise, she's on beat st.
jw90063 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Of course Charles Manson isn't right in the head -- I don't know why people who take the opposing position here propose such extreme examples as comparable. Totally different ballpark. And yes, red flags are just red flags -- but a red flag by itself is not necessarily a dealbreaker. Red flags are merely warnings, and when the evidence piles up to support a red flag, then it's a "stronger" flag. But in this case, what's the red flag pointing to? You can't possibly say it indicates anything with any degree of reasonable certainty, and even if you could, what type of issue would you insinuate? A form of submissive pleasure? There are all sorts of other "sane" acts that follows that suit. We associate "urine" with "dirtiness" because it's a waste output, even though it is technically sterile. We learn from a young age that it's a fairly dirty thing, since peeing on the floor or in your pants/etc is considered a "messy" act. And yet we associate something like semen with something that is "unpleasant" to some but more acceptable to many because it's not "waste" material. But, just like urine, semen is safe and can taste/smell just as bad. Yet we wouldn't say someone's psychologically screwed or that it's a "red flag" if a woman enjoys it when a man ejaculates on their chest. Contrarily, you think it's fundamentally flawed for someone to enjoy the sensation of urine simply because of its prior association? I get the feeling you are just trying to make a point, but wouldn't date woman if she ask you to pee on her. SEMEN is related to sex. You come when you have sex. That's why it turns so many people on and they do not have an issue with it. Do you pee when you have sex? Pee has nothing to do with sex or making love. Pee is specifically for removing body waste. I mean, maybe the girl likes it cause it "comes" out of the penis, who knows. I can't make much sense out of it. Urinating to me is just like taking a dump. How to you associate that with sexual arousal? :pThat's not NORMAL buddy, and IMO a level headed person would not find this appealing or acceptable. I'm sorry. Why do we pee? As stated in an article online: We pee to rid our bodies of uric acid, mainly. And sometimes we have too much water in our blood system and have to get rid of some of that, as well. There are other unwanted substances that can also be filtered out by the kidneys and expelled in the form of pee (urine). If that turns someone on, my god. Semen: Semen is an organic fluid, also known as seminal fluid, that usually contains spermatozoa. It is secreted by the gonads(sexual glands) and other sexual organs of male. Regardless I've lost my lunch...
Vertex Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I think its fundamentally flawed, yes. I don't see any connotation between the representation of life creation (semen) vrs. waste product (urine). Sociological experiments may exist on the subject but I haven't checked them out to find any hard evidence. I don't buy your arguments, however. Consumption of semen, or "money shots" are considered a turn on because they represent the release, or orgasm, of a partner. In many cultures it is considered sacred. Urine on the other hand, is not, in pretty much any culture. I still think the subject is taboo, but I don't think any right minded person would enjoy being defecated/urinated on. It only scratches the surface of underlaying issues which are expressed through sex, but may alter other things and affect other things in the relationship. If this represents social and sexual complexity then I am glad to be simply, because anyone who tries to piss on me will usually be met by a steel toed boot smashing into their chest. Then again, I would be open to the idea of doing that FOR my partner only after alot of coercion and if she convinced me it was the only way for her to orgasm. Otherwise, she's on beat st. So would you think that any pleasure deriving from a form of submission is "flawed"? My point wasn't to necessarily say "semen is okay because it is representative of life" but rather it is representative of something that ISN'T waste or "dirty." If we were able to ejaculate from an early age without our control, I'm sure we'd also see the consumption of semen as a bit less acceptable today. You say it's due to its association with orgasm release -- I could argue that plenty of people find the release of urine to be pleasurable. Similarly, I could say that the kind of pleasure a woman received from being ejaculated on could be comparable to the same pleasure received when being urinated on (in terms of the same sort of "warmth" or "pleasure release" properties associated with each act). The only difference is that one is associated with waste and the other is not, and yet both can be functions of physical pleasure. As for that website above, it seems clear that many of those conditions are taken in extremes: # Nervousness, wetting clothes are the symptoms of urolagnia. # People having this disorder urinate at social places or in front of another people. # Many side-effects, diseases and infections are occurred due to contaminated urine. THESE would be "effects that carry out into everyday life" that are outside of the bedroom. Not everyone who is into golden showers get off from pissing their clothes or doing it in social places. A sexual fetish, when taken too far, is a problem. But most people I know who are into golden showers are somewhat tame, and like the OP's girl, perhaps just want to be peed on in a shower, for instance. It's a totally isolated pleasure and is not indicative of trait carryover. You need more evidence, which is what I've been arguing this entire thread.
Vertex Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I get the feeling you are just trying to make a point, but wouldn't date woman if she ask you to pee on her. SEMEN is related to sex. You come when you have sex. That's why it turns so many people on and they do not have an issue with it. Do you pee when you have sex? Pee has nothing to do with sex or making love. Pee is specifically for removing body waste. I mean, maybe the girl likes it cause it "comes" out of the penis, who knows. I can't make much sense out of it. Urinating to me is just like taking a dump. How to you associate that with sexual arousal? :pThat's not NORMAL buddy, and IMO a level headed person would not find this appealing or acceptable. I'm sorry. Why do we pee? As stated in an article online: We pee to rid our bodies of uric acid, mainly. And sometimes we have too much water in our blood system and have to get rid of some of that, as well. There are other unwanted substances that can also be filtered out by the kidneys and expelled in the form of pee (urine). If that turns someone on, my god. Semen: Semen is an organic fluid, also known as seminal fluid, that usually contains spermatozoa. It is secreted by the gonads(sexual glands) and other sexual organs of male. Regardless I've lost my lunch... Yes, just making a point. I'm personally not into these acts at all, but I see it as totally closeminded and illogical to bash it for the reasons stated in this thread. -Yes, semen is associated with the act of sex. But eating it certainly isn't necessary. Receiving it on a part of your body follows suit as well. Sex is a very emotional, mental, sensual, and physical thing that does not have any one flavor -- we do certain things because they give us stimulus and pleasure. Sex is an arena in which many can explore sensual pleasures in a variety of ways, and it's not just limited to semen. People introduce food sometimes because of the pleasures we derive from eating or from the physical intricacies of oral stimulation, or light amounts of pain, or the submission of being tied up, etc. There are plenty of things "not necessary in sex" that we find acceptable, so to say "peeing" is unacceptable for that reason is not a strong one.
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