Malenfant Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Ahh excuse for saying but do you not see the connotation to excrement/waste? of course we do, thats obvious. No-one is arguing that having someone expel their bodily waste onto you isnt degrading. Some people like to be degraded. thats their choice and its not indicative of a dodgy psyche, its a quirk, and a harmless one at that as long as no harm comes to anyone.
Vertex Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 There is no comparison. Excretory matter does not equal reproductive matter. Two different things. One is bodily waste the other is reproductive material. Two different things. I accept reproductive material in my sex life as sane, not waste. Accepting waste in my sex life is insane to me and I DO argue the sanity of the act. Correct, they're two different things. But you're saying one is inherently more acceptable to deal with than another when it comes to sexual pleasure. You haven't said why one indicates sanity and the other does not, reconciling the logical connections to social acceptability and face value.
Vertex Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 PERFECT analogy and I am SO glad you brought this up because it's exactly the same reaction that Dusty had to his situation. In the same vein of your thinking, you would be hard pressed to find someone who had a healthy esteem and wanted to be peed or shat on. Therefore it's understandable that this act would be unappealing to someone and that they would feel that the person was not who they seemed to be; a confident mentally healthy person! I would say that you wouldn't be hardpressed to find such people. You could be perfectly healthy and simply enjoy the intimacy of someone else peeing on you. This is no different from a healthy woman who, say, is willing to have someone ejaculate on their chest or something. One's more acceptable than the other even though, on the basic level, they aren't fundamentally different in their results apart from their sources (waste versus reproductive).
Malenfant Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 of course we do, thats obvious. No-one is arguing that having someone expel their bodily waste onto you isnt degrading. Some people like to be degraded. thats their choice and its not indicative of a dodgy psyche, its a quirk, and a harmless one at that as long as no harm comes to anyone. i misinterpreted your comment, apologies.
parky-our-zeppelin Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 1.) You're not the one getting peed on 2.) Just do it in the shower, what's the big deal? It's not like she's asking you to do a rape fantasy or something, just roll with it. Everybody has turn-ons.
Malenfant Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 PERFECT analogy and I am SO glad you brought this up because it's exactly the same reaction that Dusty had to his situation. In the same vein of your thinking, you would be hard pressed to find someone who had a healthy esteem and wanted to be peed or shat on. Therefore it's understandable that this act would be unappealing to someone and that they would feel that the person was not who they seemed to be; a confident mentally healthy person! i would go so far as to say that just because a person likes to be weed on, it doesnt indicate a desire to be shat on. thats a step further down the degrading route that i think most people would find quite disgusting. But i dont think either neccessarily indicates a lack of self esteem, to me it just says that the person likes to be very, very dirty in their sex life. I dont like watersports, but i am quite submissive, does that mean I like being told what to do in everyday life? no, it doesnt because I dont.
Vertex Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 i would go so far as to say that just because a person likes to be weed on, it doesnt indicate a desire to be shat on. thats a step further down the degrading route that i think most people would find quite disgusting. But i dont think either neccessarily indicates a lack of self esteem, to me it just says that the person likes to be very, very dirty in their sex life. I dont like watersports, but i am quite submissive, does that mean I like being told what to do in everyday life? no, it doesnt because I dont. Right -- again, just because you have a preference sexually doesn't necessarily mean it has a direct link in everyday life. Some preferences are obviously more indicative of issues than others. Being peed on is really not one of them.
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 1.) You're not the one getting peed on 2.) Just do it in the shower, what's the big deal? It's not like she's asking you to do a rape fantasy or something, just roll with it. Everybody has turn-ons. with a username like "Parky-our zeppelin" why am I not surprised on your take at the situation.
16thstreet Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Just want to say good luck, Dusty, whatever you decide this weekend!
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 Just want to say good luck, Dusty, whatever you decide this weekend! Thanks, I appreciate it.
alphamale Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 She wants me to give her a GOLDEN SHOWER. so? give her one, its no big deal
Ms. Joolie Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Correct, they're two different things. But you're saying one is inherently more acceptable to deal with than another when it comes to sexual pleasure. You haven't said why one indicates sanity and the other does not, reconciling the logical connections to social acceptability and face value. I've already given my reasons why one is sane and the other is not. They are my personal opinions, my reasoning. Not sure what your point is about "reconciling the logical connections to social acceptability and face value". Each person decides on their own whether or not they are going to deem this fetish as sane. I question its sanity from a basic biological point of view primarily, not a social one.
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 so? give her one, its no big deal Yeah, and next thing you know she's calling me a thousand times a day.
meerkat stew Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Rightly or wrongly, if I heard this early on, would tend to assume that a)she may have trouble with normal sexual expression and gratification, b) that the chances she has a personality disorder were greatly increased, or c) she has boundary issues based on how early in the relationship she brought this up. All of these things would end up being deal-killers for me if they panned out. I wouldn't write it off immediately, but would proceed with caution, watching those possibilities especially. This is problematic in itself, because a young relationship will usually suffocate under such scrutiny. People don't like to feel they are being evaluated or under a microscope. I'm older, though, and the closest I've ever been to such a fetish was a woman who liked to be bitten so hard that I was afraid of breaking her skin, so adjust accordingly for age and mores.
alphamale Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Yeah, and next thing you know she's calling me a thousand times a day. hahahahahha
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 Rightly or wrongly, if I heard this early on, would tend to assume that a)she may have trouble with normal sexual expression and gratification, b) that the chances she has a personality disorder were greatly increased, or c) she has boundary issues based on how early in the relationship she brought this up. All of these things would end up being deal-killers for me if they panned out. I wouldn't write it off immediately, but would proceed with caution, watching those possibilities especially. This is problematic in itself, because a young relationship will usually suffocate under such scrutiny. People don't like to feel they are being evaluated or under a microscope. I'm older, though, and the closest I've ever been to such a fetish was a woman who liked to be bitten so hard that I was afraid of breaking her skin, so adjust accordingly for age and mores. I'm going to think about it this weekend. It's just hard for me not to feel like there could be more things down the line and why waste the time? But there are a lot of good things about her as well otherwise I would've ended it right there.
MissJoness Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Why would you end the relationship because of this? Can't you just say you aren't into that and move on to other things.
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 Why would you end the relationship because of this? Can't you just say you aren't into that and move on to other things. Because I think there might be a deeper problem and I don't know if I want to play Christopher Columbus right now....
Ms. Joolie Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Because I think there might be a deeper problem and I don't know if I want to play Christopher Columbus right now.... You know... if she's never actually experience a 'golden shower' before, it could have just been a thought she was willing to share with you and no big issue. If she really hasn't done it before, it's only a thought in her head. Could have been a passing one or a real fetish. You are the one that knows her. Your call. How long have you two been dating anyway? Edited January 7, 2010 by Ms. Joolie
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 You know... if she's never actually experience a 'golden shower' before, it could have just been a thought she was willing to share with you and no big issue. If she really hasn't done it before, it's only a thought in her head. Could have been a passing one or a real fetish. You are the one that knows her. Your call. How long have you two been dating anyway? 2 1/2 months
Ms. Joolie Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 2 1/2 months Maybe just take it as only a thought she shared with you in the moment and forget about it. She knows you didn't like the idea. If your relationship is affected by this, or your sex life, then you'll know.
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 2 and 1/2 months, you just dumped the "dead fish" who you were also seeing yesterday!??!!? If you were so into this chick for these past two months why were you also still with the other? I think neither of these women are good for you and you know it, stay alone for a while and you will clear your head and attract better women. No, no, no...I haven't been involved with the dead fish. I've been distancing myself from her until yesterday. Once I decided to be exclusive with Mrs. Fetish (past two weeks), I cut everyone else out. I've been open and honest with everyone involved. Agreed, neither one may be right for me now. But it's not because of a lack of effort on my end, I know what I want. It's just a matter of us being on the same page.
Simon Attwood Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Once I decided to be exclusive with Mrs. Fetish . Oh will you just pee on her and get it over and done with, already
xbluudevilx Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Do the damn thang and be like R. Kelly.. Pee on her! Give it to her!
Author DustySaltus Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 Oh ok after posting in this thread today I was thinking about your thread yesterday an thought wait a minute, wasn't he the same one that was trying to break it off with another girl yesterday? Yeah, I was very busy yesterday lol
Recommended Posts