Linainverse Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 I've never been to the US and I am in no way religious.. But as far as I was aware - Halloween is in no way a holiday, nor is it Christian. I thought it was a celtic festival.. Here in Australia I have never once opened my door to kids trick or treating, it seems so weird that people across the other side of the world make such a big deal about it.
CrestfallenNoMore Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 Well, I wouldn't probably be very compatible with anyone who didn't celebrate it due to religious beliefs, but I have several friends in my life who don't get into the whole "dress up, hand out candy" aspects of Halloween. Yes, I would date someone who "just didn't get into it" and I would then go out and celebrate with friends that evening. The case illustrated seems a little extreme to me personally, and that is probably someone with whom I wouldn't be compatible.
D-Lish Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 I've never been to the US and I am in no way religious.. But as far as I was aware - Halloween is in no way a holiday, nor is it Christian. I thought it was a celtic festival.. Here in Australia I have never once opened my door to kids trick or treating, it seems so weird that people across the other side of the world make such a big deal about it. You could start a tradition! Get dressed as a devil and knock on people's doors with an open bag asking for Tim Tam's and Vegemite sandwiches!
e.clipse Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 the Christian church absorbed it and linked it to 'All Hallows Eve' the passing of saints and martyrs. there is no pagan stigma attached to halloween actually, Halloween was absorbed, as you say, by the Roman Catholics. by today's standards, the Roman Catholics are distinctively different that the Christians. further, Halloween is a pagan ritual that originated with the Celts. it was not a "holiday" for them, but rather the eve before their New Year, which marked the end of their summer and beginning of their winter. the Celts celebrated Samhain by creating sacred bonfires and wearing "costumes" (think animal heads) in effort to not only protect themselves from the oncoming winter, which they associated with death, but to have Druids, or Celtic priests, divine eachother's fortunes. given that the Celts did not believe in the Jesus/Christ in question (in regards to the Christian woman in the OP) and rather other spiritual deities and also given that they believed in the metaphysical art of divination, then, yes, Halloween/Samhain is, in fact, of Pagan origin. today, that "stigma" may not be as attached, but the truth is that many people simply don't know how Halloween/Samhaim originated; however, that doesn't make it any less Pagan in origin. as far as the OP goes: as other have said, b, the problem is not that she is that radical a Christian to the point of having to blind her children of things on billboards, the problem is that it is a symptom of a major incompatibility between the two of you. evidently, she is a more extreme type of Christian, while you are not. very seldom can two people with such polar beliefs and attitudes towards those beliefs co-exist in harmony, unfortunately. personally, if someone didn't celebrate Halloween, before discarding them, i would ask them why. as a religion-wanderer, i don't mind if some people don't celebrate, however, if the reason is because of religion, then i don't think i could proceed. in that, i mean no disrespect, as everyone should believe as they desire; however, extreme thinking like hers, unlike James', i find to be rather intolerant of non-extreme thinking, like mine. so, yea, it's probably not a good match, unless she can accept your beliefs with respect, and vice versa.
meerkat stew Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 Nah I wouldn't date her because it would be extremely difficult to get her into french maid, catholic school girl or garter belt nurse costumes without halloween as an excuse.
burning 4 revenge Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 further, Halloween is a pagan ritual that originated with the Celts. it was not a "holiday" for them, but rather the eve before their New Year, which marked the end of their summer and beginning of their winter. the Celts celebrated Samhain by creating sacred bonfires and wearing "costumes" (think animal heads) in effort to not only protect themselves from the oncoming winter, which they associated with death, but to have Druids, or Celtic priests, divine eachother's fortunes. Is it any wonder the Romans obliterated them with a few legions
Author b52s Posted January 6, 2010 Author Posted January 6, 2010 actually, Halloween was absorbed, as you say, by the Roman Catholics. by today's standards, the Roman Catholics are distinctively different that the Christians. So you're saying.....Catholics aren't even Christian?? Too funny. :laugh::laugh:
Author b52s Posted January 6, 2010 Author Posted January 6, 2010 Well, I wouldn't probably be very compatible with anyone who didn't celebrate it due to religious beliefs, but I have several friends in my life who don't get into the whole "dress up, hand out candy" aspects of Halloween. Yes, I would date someone who "just didn't get into it" and I would then go out and celebrate with friends that evening. The case illustrated seems a little extreme to me personally, and that is probably someone with whom I wouldn't be compatible. right, I wouldn't have a problem with someone who just wasn't "into it" like I'm not into watching sports on TV. But, if someone is pure ADVOCATE against the whole thing, like if she found out that I like to celebrate it, and she has a problem with me wearing a costume and going to a Halloween party with my friends....well....that's where the problem will lie.
skydiveaddict Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 actually, Halloween was absorbed, as you say, by the Roman Catholics. by today's standards, the Roman Catholics are distinctively different that the Christians i got some shocking news for you my friend. Catholics were the original christians.
Krazysweet Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 to be honest if u like her thats something u may want to give a chance to, but in my opinion someone who cant take time to at least dress up and have fun with you then they have WAY diff thoughts about things n if they cant dress up at least for FUN then maybe thats not the person ur looking for...talk to her n see y??? but honestly if she has no reason, n u enjoy dressing up n having fun maybe shes not the girl 4 u...if she cant be spontaneous sometimes and thats the way you are, it doesnt matter how u sugar coat it it's just not gna work out. figure out what u want and then, when u see thee signs you will know who is worth giving a chance to or not.
angie2443 Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 As someone with children who does not "celebrate" Halloween, I can understand where she comes from. While I do not go to such extremes...and in fact will hand out candy at my door, contrary to public belief the basis of that day IS pagan and satanic. It may not be that today, but it was at its beginnings. Pagans are not satanic. One has nothing to do with the other. For those who have heard this, I sugest finding credible sources on the subject and then you'll have a better understanding of the origens of Halloween and the people who are Pagans.
angie2443 Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 Well then do you celebrate Easter? Christmas? Both have distinct pagan roots and themes that are still celebrated today. The same with Halloween, the Catholic church just took the pagan holidays and put christian adaptations on them. This is true. I don't think most people know this, though.
JamesM Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 Pagans are not satanic. One has nothing to do with the other. I am well aware of that, but thanks for the reminder. My comment said that the origins were BOTH and not meaning the same thing. However, I don't know that I am correct that the origins are both. Today many costumes and practices are "satanic" in appearance though. Satanists do celebrate it but that is a recent thing from Anton Lavey. So technically, the origins are not satanic.
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