paddington bear Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 I've seen on numerous of those documentaries about human attraction that men like that whole waist to hip ratio thing - according to all of these it doesn't matter so much if that is a size 8 good hip to waist ratio or a size 16, so long as the hour-glass figure is going on. I guess it's when you lose all shape that maybe men lose interest. I have a very large female friend and men went crazy over her, I think it was her come to bed eyes, the fact that she kept them entertained and made them laugh. She seemed like fun to be with but also naughty in bed. She wore bright, look at me clothes, propped up her boobs and had her cleavage on show - rather than dressing in shapeless, hide-all dresses, she celebrated her size and dressed to show it off, rather than hide herself. Her size didn't matter to these guys and much thinner mutual friends would sit there in the bar being ignored by the self-same men. Personally, I was much larger at one point, not morbidly obese, but fatter than I'd want to be, fat enough for a doctor to tell me to keep an eye on my weight and honestly, since losing weight (UK size 12-14 now) I've had so much more men looking, flirting, approaching. Not sure whether it is because I feel more confident, clothes look better, or that I am more attractive at a smaller weight - but whatever, I don't want to put on weight again, life is easier when slimmer, even if you couldn't describe me a as thin by any means.
disgracian Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 The way I see it... physical attraction is the PRIMARY reason for male-female relationships to exist to begin with. If this wasn't the case, I would have moved in with my best friend long time ago and called it a day. (Personalitywise I'm happier with him than I've ever been with any woman. The problem is neither of us is gay or would consider a sex change operation.) *facepalm* When you try to make a point about male-female relationships, man-on-man doesn't really enter into it. I suppose if you didn't resort to this irrelevant comparison then your point would look a bit daft. Are you really going to argue that you'd choose the more attractive person as a companion over the one who is more compatible but less attractive and still claim that you're not being superficial? Cheers, D.
hoping2heal Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 My obese butt personally doesn't have a problem with thin girls ether. I don't have low self-esteem so I've never really understood the whole 'hater' nonsense. I know right? I mean yes, I do know SOME overweight women who have the whole "skinny bitch" mentality but I think it's ridiculous! It's not right for a fat woman to judge or make assumptions about another woman simply because she is thin. Like as if ALL fat women are a minority who must stick together against the evil thin women.
hoping2heal Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 I've seen on numerous of those documentaries about human attraction that men like that whole waist to hip ratio thing - according to all of these it doesn't matter so much if that is a size 8 good hip to waist ratio or a size 16, so long as the hour-glass figure is going on. I guess it's when you lose all shape that maybe men lose interest. I have a very large female friend and men went crazy over her, I think it was her come to bed eyes, the fact that she kept them entertained and made them laugh. She seemed like fun to be with but also naughty in bed. She wore bright, look at me clothes, propped up her boobs and had her cleavage on show - rather than dressing in shapeless, hide-all dresses, she celebrated her size and dressed to show it off, rather than hide herself. Her size didn't matter to these guys and much thinner mutual friends would sit there in the bar being ignored by the self-same men. Personally, I was much larger at one point, not morbidly obese, but fatter than I'd want to be, fat enough for a doctor to tell me to keep an eye on my weight and honestly, since losing weight (UK size 12-14 now) I've had so much more men looking, flirting, approaching. Not sure whether it is because I feel more confident, clothes look better, or that I am more attractive at a smaller weight - but whatever, I don't want to put on weight again, life is easier when slimmer, even if you couldn't describe me a as thin by any means. While some men just will never be okay with a woman being overweight under any circumstance- I don't doubt what REALLY made you appealing was the change in your atitude. It doesn't matter if you are a size 2 or a size 22 - If you are a negative nancy, head is burried in the sand all the time- why would anyone want to be around you anyway? Come on! No one likes funerals! However, if you became less self concious and exuded more light- then who DOESN'T want to be around that? Everyone loves sunshine!
disgracian Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Green, you have been repeatedly given the answers to your questions and all I am observing is that you're asking them over and over again in this thread, as well as the previous threads you've created on the subject. I can only conclude that you are trolling. As such, adios. Cheers, D.
paddington bear Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Green, you have been repeatedly given the answers to your questions and all I am observing is that you're asking them over and over again in this thread, as well as the previous threads you've created on the subject. I can only conclude that you are trolling. As such, adios. Cheers, D. what does trolling mean?
hoping2heal Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 what does trolling mean? When you hook a motor up to your boat and take off. J/K Trolling= posting "controversial" statements or subject matter in hopes of evoking reaction. i.e "getting a rise out of people"
disgracian Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Everyone loves sunshine! Except goths, who have an amusing tendency to burst into flame when exposed to direct sunlight. Cheers, D.
ella23 Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) well, everyone has different preferences. I doubt many people really care about a few extra pounds here or there. Edited January 2, 2010 by ella23
theBrokenMuse Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Except goths, who have an amusing tendency to burst into flame when exposed to direct sunlight. Cheers, D. And vampires, don't forget vampires! (unless they are the sparkly kind of course)
Author Green Posted January 3, 2010 Author Posted January 3, 2010 Yes extremes is exactly what I'm talking about here, really fat people and why they still get dates. I've seen on numerous of those documentaries about human attraction that men like that whole waist to hip ratio thing - according to all of these it doesn't matter so much if that is a size 8 good hip to waist ratio or a size 16, so long as the hour-glass figure is going on. I guess it's when you lose all shape that maybe men lose interest. I have a very large female friend and men went crazy over her, I think it was her come to bed eyes, the fact that she kept them entertained and made them laugh. She seemed like fun to be with but also naughty in bed. She wore bright, look at me clothes, propped up her boobs and had her cleavage on show - rather than dressing in shapeless, hide-all dresses, she celebrated her size and dressed to show it off, rather than hide herself. Her size didn't matter to these guys and much thinner mutual friends would sit there in the bar being ignored by the self-same men. Personally, I was much larger at one point, not morbidly obese, but fatter than I'd want to be, fat enough for a doctor to tell me to keep an eye on my weight and honestly, since losing weight (UK size 12-14 now) I've had so much more men looking, flirting, approaching. Not sure whether it is because I feel more confident, clothes look better, or that I am more attractive at a smaller weight - but whatever, I don't want to put on weight again, life is easier when slimmer, even if you couldn't describe me a as thin by any means. You are probably happier and more confident, but being thinner must help. Big women who have curves are much more attractive then big women who have lost them. The Men and women I talk about in this thread have lost the shape of their body, faces are stretched... these are the people I wonder why are so desired by so many. Green, you have been repeatedly given the answers to your questions and all I am observing is that you're asking them over and over again in this thread, as well as the previous threads you've created on the subject. I can only conclude that you are trolling. As such, adios. Cheers, D. I wanted to hear from more people then just you, and while I've enjoyed your input I would have to say calling me a troll begs for a reaction. In future threads I sugest you just unsubscribe and avoid the off topic insulting exit msgs.
Pink Cupcakes Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) Seriously, for the most part, if you see an overweight woman and she has a boyfriend, he is also the same amount overweight. You see a lean, athletic woman, she is usually with a lean, athletic guy. You see an average weight guy, not particulary athletic, and he is often with an average-sized, not particularly athletic woman. I say this for the most part. Married people - that is different, but not always. Sometimes one partner gains after marriage, and the other one doesn't. A lot of the time both of them gain weight. a lot of the time, they stay the same. I believe most overweight men and women know the realities of who they are going to attract of the opposite sex. If a guy is attracted to slim, athletic women, he will be lean and athletic himself through hard work at the gym and dietary choices. Same with women. If it is important for a woman to attract a lean, healthy, active guy, she herself will be active and make healthy dietary choices so she will have a trim, athletic physique. If this isn't a priority for her attraction to a guy, she will allow herself some freedom from the gym and dietary restrictions, and maybe being the size 6 her best friend is doesn't carry the same importance for her. Maybe later on she will realize she DOES want to attract a guy of athletic, lean build, and start working out and restricting her diet so she can acheive what she seeks herself. Makes sense and it is pretty much the way it is in real life, from most couples I've seen. Green, with your friend, he just has a preference for larger women, big deal. Just like some guys have a preference for blondes, Asians, whatever, his is larger women. Not all men are alike in preferences. So there's your answer. Edited January 3, 2010 by Pink Cupcakes
Mary3 Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 I may be a rare breed : I am attracted to what my friends refer to as : Fat guys " Now my interpretation of fat and theirs is highly different. Anything below 250 is good. I would say 220 to 250 is good. I have went out with 260 . They have to have that massive strong chest to go with that fat. No roly poly only but man with muscle + fat . My friends think 160 to 170 is normal. I find that anorexic and unattractive on a man. Give me Beef !
disgracian Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 I wanted to hear from more people then just you, and while I've enjoyed your input I would have to say calling me a troll begs for a reaction. You have, in this thread and the other two you started on the same topic. Revisiting te same hot topics is textbook troll behaviour. Glancing at some of the other threads you've started has confirmed that you are indeed just out to get a reaction from people. Cheers, D.
hollywood undead Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 One might as well ask: why date poor people? Green, you better be a millionaire, or else you're making a fool out of yourself with this thread.....especially since I have a hunch that the intention of your thread is merely fattie bashing anyways. Yes, yes, I know the arguments following this post now : being fat is detrimental to health and therefore not comparable with money. First off, not all overweight people have any health issues whatsoever, and following the health "logic" I might as well argue that being poor is detrimental to health as well, because without money one can't afford all the healthy foods and the gym membership.
theBrokenMuse Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 because without money one can't afford all the healthy foods and the gym membership. You do realize that there has got to be at least one schmuck out there thinking but the poorest people are starving so they might die, but at least they'll look svelte in that plywood coffin as they read this line.
hoping2heal Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 One might as well ask: why date poor people? Green, you better be a millionaire, or else you're making a fool out of yourself with this thread.....especially since I have a hunch that the intention of your thread is merely fattie bashing anyways. Yes, yes, I know the arguments following this post now : being fat is detrimental to health and therefore not comparable with money. First off, not all overweight people have any health issues whatsoever, and following the health "logic" I might as well argue that being poor is detrimental to health as well, because without money one can't afford all the healthy foods and the gym membership. LOL. Actually, you have a somewhat valid point. You can be fat and still mal-nourished. If you can only afford ramen and mac-n-cheese everyday and feed your body with junk and crap; even excersize will only do SO much for you- especially as you begin to age. You DO need to change your eating habits to lose weight if you are already fat; and that can legitimately be costly. That said Being overweight is unhealthy, so is smoking, so is drinking 5 out of 7 nights a week, and there are plenty of people who do not look overweight; but their lifestyle still consists of lots of junk eating and lots of sitting around. I think people should be more honest and say "the real turn off about weight, is the way it looks." That's more truthful- yes of course it is unhealthy but there are plenty of other unhealthy habits that won't put a person off if done by someone who "looks" thin. Anyhow, I'm fat and green didn't offend me . Lots of interesting responses.
Author Green Posted January 3, 2010 Author Posted January 3, 2010 It seems to me that people always try to turn it off topic. First I don't enjoy being called a troll because seriously yes I have raised contreversial topics but it truely is something I am honestly talking about and not trying to cause problems. For instance if I start a thread claiming "Men are funnier then Women" yes I know it will posibly make people mad but the reason I make that thread is because I believe it. Secondly this thread had nothing to do with bashing fat people or claiming being fat is unhealthy or that being fat was worse then being a cigar smoker or heavy drinker... it was simply to focus on how I do not understand how normal sized people what ever that means to you are attracted and will date very fat people. In my mind heres what I think it boils down to people get lonely and maybe in the past they didn't picture themselves with some one very fat but then they meet some one very fat and that person makes them happy and they feel attraction end of story. I think that our society is cruel to fat people, short people, cripple people and they don't deserve it. But in the end all these things make a person less atractive but that doesn't mean an individual person can't fall in love and see that flawed person as perfect after all only god is perfect
Golfilla Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 I haven't read through this entire thread and nor do I intend to because the answer is actually very simple. People date fat people because it's what they like, and what they like is nobody else's business. I personally have a preference for thinner women, but other men like larger women, and if that's what they like, then good for them. Heck, I'm glad other guys like larger women and frankly, I think there should be more of it. Ultimately, all it means is that I have less competition when I pursue the women I like.
Author Green Posted January 3, 2010 Author Posted January 3, 2010 I haven't read through this entire thread and nor do I intend to because the answer is actually very simple. People date fat people because it's what they like, and what they like is nobody else's business. I personally have a preference for thinner women, but other men like larger women, and if that's what they like, then good for them. Heck, I'm glad other guys like larger women and frankly, I think there should be more of it. Ultimately, all it means is that I have less competition when I pursue the women I like. Actualy it doesn't mean you have less competition at all because dating isn't a mathematical equation just because a girl is willing to date you doesn't mean she is willing to date some other guy or that the other guy will even ask her out. Your answer is a non answer, it pretty much says I shouldn't be asking the question. And yes it is perfectly my business to ask this question if I feel like it, I'm not going to ask a friend or any one in real life this question, but here on the internet for those who chose to answer the question yes I ask it.
Golfilla Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Your answer is a non answer, it pretty much says I shouldn't be asking the question. And yes it is perfectly my business to ask this question if I feel like it, I'm not going to ask a friend or any one in real life this question, but here on the internet for those who chose to answer the question yes I ask it. My answer is a direct answer to the question you posed at the start of the thread. Just to recap: you asked why a man would date a fat woman, did you not? I simply pointed out that the reason they do is because there are some men who *like* fat women. I also pointed out that their preferences are really nobody else's business, and that is also a fact, one which you actually acknowledged by admitting you don't question your friend directly. Sure, you can ask the question here if you want, but the other posters on this board can equally give you whatever answers they want, and complaining about the answers you receive shows a distinct lack of class.
Author Green Posted January 3, 2010 Author Posted January 3, 2010 My answer is a direct answer to the question you posed at the start of the thread. Just to recap: you asked why a man would date a fat woman, did you not? I simply pointed out that the reason they do is because there are some men who *like* fat women. I also pointed out that their preferences are really nobody else's business, and that is also a fact, one which you actually acknowledged by admitting you don't question your friend directly. Sure, you can ask the question here if you want, but the other posters on this board can equally give you whatever answers they want, and complaining about the answers you receive shows a distinct lack of class. I do lack class and one day I'll have it but for now I do not enjoy your answer and certainly feel it lacks the understanding needed
Pink Cupcakes Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 Hey Green, why is it so strange to think that every guy is not like you? Why is it difficult to accept that many other men have different preferences and that you are not the one mold that every man who is normal fits into? SOME MEN ARE ATTRACTED TO WOMEN WHO ARE OVERWEIGHT. WHY DO YOU CARE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO DATE OVERWEIGHT WOMEN. SO WHY DO YOU CARE OR WHY DOES IT FASCINATE AND SHOCK YOU THAT SOME MEN ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOU? NEWSFLASH: NOT ALL MEN ARE LIKE YOU.
knaveman Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 I do lack class and one day I'll have it but for now I do not enjoy your answer and certainly feel it lacks the understanding needed You dislike the answer because it doesn't cause conflict? Because it doesn't feed the argument? You seem more like a troll with comments like this. Truth is, you cannot understand why someone would date someone you aren't attracted to. It cannot be explained to you. Or anyone else for that matter. We are attracted to what and whom we are attracted to for reasons even we don't really understand. You will never know or understand why a person is attracted to a fat person any more than you will understand why I think a rainy day is just as beautiful as a sunny day or why some like dogs more than cats. Some things are best left mysteries. Move on.
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