Author alphamale Posted January 8, 2010 Author Posted January 8, 2010 I eagerly will await to see what your next dilemma is with this swinger, because she seems like a real good catch. It's going to be fun. indeed *looks down nose with indifferent look on face* Bro, I mean this with the utmost respect....I think you need to take a look at yourself to see why you're attracting these whacked out women.... i like the wild and crazy ones, they're fun Just don't be disappointed if nothing happens, okay? i don't expect anything
sxyNYCcpl Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) You've been the one proudly proclaiming the - um, what was it? - "judgmental codswallop" that swingers are all fun loving, wonderful, mentally stable people, not me. Most (certainly not all) are exactly that. Then again most (and certainly not all) of the general population is, too. In fact, when one poster pointed out their experience of the opposite, you apparently got defensive, defining yourself as a "wicker swinger" for dramatic effect. I remember not labeling myself as a wicker swinger. Perhaps you meant wicked, and while I don't specifically remember using that term I could see myself doing so in response to moral indignation, or a knee jerk generalization that I know to be incorrect. "All swingers are old and fat" "Swinging ALWAYS results in divorce" These statements, and many more like them, are just downright factually incorrect, yet they happen over and over again, and some even try to defend them despite coming from a position of absolutely zero experience or knowledge. On edit: Now I know what you're talking about as I reread it. My use of wicked was merely for effect, and all I was pointing out to the poster about her friends sister was that such a creature is (fortunately) relatively rare, swinger or not. I never said swingers were all mentally unstable. I merely said that, by mere virtue of someone being a swinger, you can't state they ARE stable. Mea culpa, then, for I misinterpreted you to be saying that swinging, by definition, creates (or at least indicates) mental instability. And you are equally right that merely knowing someone is a swinger doesn't also mean they're automatically stable. In some categories (e.g. marriage stability (lower divorce rates), political affiliation (more conservative/republican than gen pop believe it or not), and others) swingers are statistically different than a random sampling of the general population, in others not. They're human beings like any other group, and carry the stigma of that humanity just as any other. Edited January 8, 2010 by sxyNYCcpl
pyroguy Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Most (certainly not all) are exactly that. Then again most (and certainly not all) of the general population is, too. I remember not labeling myself as a wicker swinger. Perhaps you meant wicked, and while I don't specifically remember using that term I could see myself doing so in response to moral indignation, or a knee jerk generalization that I know to be incorrect. "All swingers are old and fat" "Swinging ALWAYS results in divorce" These statements, and many more like them, are just downright factually incorrect, yet they happen over and over again, and some even try to defend them despite coming from a position of absolutely zero experience or knowledge. On edit: Now I know what you're talking about as I reread it. My use of wicked was merely for effect, and all I was pointing out to the poster about her friends sister was that such a creature is (fortunately) relatively rare, swinger or not. Mea culpa, then, for I misinterpreted you to be saying that swinging, by definition, creates (or at least indicates) mental instability. And you are equally right that merely knowing someone is a swinger doesn't also mean they're automatically stable. In some categories (e.g. marriage stability (lower divorce rates), political affiliation (more conservative/republican than gen pop believe it or not), and others) swingers are statistically different than a random sampling of the general population, in others not. They're human beings like any other group, and carry the stigma of that humanity just as any other. Yea, but they are definitely wired differently for sure. I would say the men in the lifestyle are wired more like women... and that's not meant as an insult.
donnamaybe Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 Most (certainly not all) are exactly that. Then again most (and certainly not all) of the general population is, too. Absolutely agree. Most of the people I know are very cool. Some, not so much. I remember not labeling myself as a wicker swinger. HA HA! I can picture it. Wrap around front porch, nice little wicker swing, you just swingin' away! lol Mea culpa, then, for I misinterpreted you to be saying that swinging, by definition, creates (or at least indicates) mental instability. And you are equally right that merely knowing someone is a swinger doesn't also mean they're automatically stable. In some categories (e.g. marriage stability (lower divorce rates), political affiliation (more conservative/republican than gen pop believe it or not), and others) swingers are statistically different than a random sampling of the general population, in others not. They're human beings like any other group, and carry the stigma of that humanity just as any other. I agree. But, and I'm sure we'll disagree on this, my personal opinion is that people who engage in sex with many, many, many, many, many different people are more likely to contract an STD than those who don't.
Yukikazi Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 I agree. But, and I'm sure we'll disagree on this, my personal opinion is that people who engage in sex with many, many, many, many, many different people are more likely to contract an STD than those who don't. Umm I don't think anyone can disagree with the simple numbers.. the more people you ****.. the more chances of an STD..
jw90063 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 again most (and certainly not all) "All swingers are old and fat" "Swinging ALWAYS results in divorce" I don't know. Can't really base your facts on one person, but the only swinger I know is way over 200lbs and is heading for divorce. Anyways..... The definition of a swinger is a person who engages freely in promiscuous sex, and any person, male or female, who enjoys experimentation of sexual acts outside the bonds of marriage. Yep, that sounds awesome.
Author alphamale Posted January 8, 2010 Author Posted January 8, 2010 ok i'm leaving for this "swingers" date...wish me gods speed
Lizzie60 Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 ok i'm leaving for this "swingers" date...wish me gods speed heeeeehaaaaawwwww... good luck... we want juicy details.. don't forget your 'raincoat'...
sxyNYCcpl Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I agree. But, and I'm sure we'll disagree on this, my personal opinion is that people who engage in sex with many, many, many, many, many different people are more likely to contract an STD than those who don't. That's not an expression of an opinion, it's a fact. Proper use of condoms and common sense can reduce the risk, but it never goes away completely, factor in the the majority of HPV and HSV infectees literally don't know they're infected and more peeps=more risk. Every person has to understand that and decide for themselves if it's a risk they can live with. That said, I've never caught anything, nor has my wife, nor are we aware of anyone else having done so, not that they'd take out an ad proclaiming it if they did.
bac Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 OK, time for some actual experience from an actual swinger. our experience you are too likely to run into people who are at a swingers party, but who aren't really swingers, and that can lead to drama. We hate drama. What kind of drama can happen there in the clubs? Do the swingers necessarily do only group sex or one on one action or both? Are they necessarily attached/married people? From what I understand 1. the swingers openly admit multiple sexual partners 2. the swingers do not hide the fact that they are attached 3. the swingers want their partners to have sex with other people. I am curious if they present during sex of their partners with other people. 4. the swingers do group sex.
meerkat stew Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 If he comes back and tells us she has a porch swing at her house...
Author alphamale Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 heeeeehaaaaawwwww... good luck... we want juicy details.. ... hahaha we just had dinner and shared some kisses. shes quite normal, intelligent and well-traveled. she said i dress nice and smell good. besides that it was a fairly normal date, we may see each other sat nite if things work out. i played things cool as a cucumber, like usual
Art_Critic Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 i played things cool as a cucumber Good.. because you may need that cucumber later Glad your date went good Alpha.. don't play any Alpha type games with her.. just be straight up...
sxyNYCcpl Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 What kind of drama can happen there in the clubs? Do the swingers necessarily do only group sex or one on one action or both? Are they necessarily attached/married people? It seems to me that people who will go to an "off-prem" swingers party, but who refuse to go to an "on-prem" one (that, by definition, includes sexual activity during the party) are not real swingers. A guy who likes seeing his girl make out with another girl, or a couple who wants to watch others aren't real swingers. If you get offended by watching someone hit on your SO (especially if the offence is compounded based on success) is not a real swinger and has no business hanging out at a swing event. 1. the swingers openly admit multiple sexual partners True. One cannot be a swinger if one doesn't have multiple partners over a course of time. This does not mean swingers are not selective, for the most part they are, but unless you have sexual activity outside of your primary relationship, you're not a swinger. 2. the swingers do not hide the fact that they are attached You are correct, your average swinger does not hide their status. From time to time, a person comes along (male or female) who is really a cheater, not a swinger, but they are generally not accepted. 3. the swingers want their partners to have sex with other people. Typically, yes I am curious if they present during sex of their partners with other people. Typically, thought not always, yes. 4. the swingers do group sex. Yes. SOME swingers are only interest in swapping partners (2 on 2, trade and return) but most real swingers are very much into group sex. A swinger who claims not to be is suspect.
dazzle22 Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 My last GF was a bit of a swinger. She had a few threesomes, went to some sex clubs and otherwise let it rip sexually. She was a lot of fun, and a very sweet person. Also, very, very good in bed. It was very exciting to listen to some of her sexcapades. How did you get her to spill the juicy details??
Space Ritual Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Anyways so i had a first date with Leslie last nite for NYE. After she got drunk she admitted she's a swinger. She's pretty aggressive and doesn't hold back with the affection. We pretty much started making out from the minute i got to the party and she kissed me first. We're going out for dinner next weekend. So whats the deal with this swinger thing. What should i expect? Expect to be in a very short term relationship.
Author alphamale Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 Expect to be in a very short term relationship. *robotic laughter* hahahahaha
Ariadne Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Leslie last nite for NYE. After she got drunk she admitted she's a swinger. So whats the deal with this swinger thing. What should i expect? I think you are better off going back to your roots of Sri Lanka and forgetting about this idea of the "west" that doesn´t seem to be working out for you.
Lizzie60 Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 hahaha we just had dinner and shared some kisses. shes quite normal, intelligent and well-traveled. she said i dress nice and smell good. besides that it was a fairly normal date, we may see each other sat nite if things work out. i played things cool as a cucumber, like usual Aaahhh.. shoot.. how boring ... oh well... I'll stay tuned for the Sat. date..
grogster Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 How did you get her to spill the juicy details?? J is very smart and intuitive. Once she realized I wasn't going to go all psycho over hearing about her past, she shared the very arousing details. It was like a very, very good sex scene in a Henry Miller novel. Plus, we had a D/s thing going so I ordered to tell me and then disciplined her for her past indiscretions. All in a day's work.
jw90063 Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 hahaha we just had dinner and shared some kisses. shes quite normal, intelligent and well-traveled. she said i dress nice and smell good. besides that it was a fairly normal date, we may see each other sat nite if things work out. i played things cool as a cucumber, like usual You conclude that she is quite normal based on this one dinner date? Little do you know, that you may be in for a big surprise. You played things cool as a cucumber? Next time, she will want to play with your cucumber.
bac Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Thank you for your reply. I guess it makes some sense to do swinging when you are attached/ or married for many yrs. Because in this case, marriage becomes something like the friend-zone with very little interest in sex. At least it was my experience with marriages. From what I might guess, on the one hand, a husband does want to have sex with other females, and the swinging gives him the opportunity to do that. On the other hand, the husband wants to feel sexual attraction to his wife again and the swinging gives him the opportunity, because when he see his wife having sex with other men, he gets jealous and competative. I am curious about the children of a such couple. Do children know that their parents are swingers? Do the parents encourage their children into swinging? Do the children accept the parents in sense of the swinging?
meerkat stew Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Was just wondering, what does it mean when a young attractive woman says she is a "swinger?" She can go and have as much sex as she wants free of restraint anyhow. In the case of a single person, isn't "swinger" just a euphemism for "promiscuous?" The reason I ask this is wondering if there's a chance there is an undisclosed husband, live-in, or long term SO in the picture, unbeknownst to OP?
skydiveaddict Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 she said i dress nice and smell good. well, she's obviously an idiot. avoid a second date at ALL costs!
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