OpenGL Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 For the hell of it, I'm going to try something and I need the opinion of the ladies on how to interpret the results. Here is what I am going to do. For now on, on mondays, tuesdays, and wednesdays, I'm going to go one of the local bars from about 9 to 12 and sit by myself and have a few drinks to see what kind of attention I get. I'm going to be sipping on maybe 2-3 drinks a night while doing things like watching the game, talking to the bar tender(s), checking my phone, etc to make it look like I'm there to just relax for the evening. Basically I'm going to try to make myself very approachable if someone were so inclined. The reason why I am going this is I'm trying to judge if I am genetically below the social floor of attractiveness to the opposite sex. Right now I am in my absolute prime as far as physical fitness. Very lean, 10% body fat and I look huge and ripped in a tank top. I have pretty much maxed out my body. I also dress decently and have been told on many occations I have good style. At this point the only thing left is my genetic disavantages (my height, my race, and my facial features/structure). So right now I suspect that in today's society I am genetically undesireable. So this is what I wanted to ask the ladies. If I conduct this experiment that I am planning, and I get absolutely no females to try to initiate conversations with me (or say anything to me), as in I sit there all night sipping on my drink and watching the game without any contact. What conclusions can I draw from that? 1. I am average looking, but that is not enough for a woman to initiate contact with you. You must be above average to get attention from women these days. 2. I am below average looking, but if I were at least average some women would try to talk to me. 3. You are far below average looking and thats why no women will talk to you. 4. You may be decent looking, but genetically you are below women's social floor for a datable man. 5. No conclusion can be drawn from this experiment. If you pick this please elaborate as to why.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 None of the above. Conclusion = too chicken to approach women. This is an exercise in futility as far as I see it.
txsilkysmoothe Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 5. You can't drawn a conclusion. Why? various reasons - women may find you above average looking and assume you must be taken and your woman will be joining you; intimidatingly good looking - women are afraid of rejection I don't know about other women but I'm traditional. I like the man to be the pursuer so I seldom approach men no matter how good looking.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 I don't know about other women but I'm traditional. I like the man to be the pursuer so I seldom approach men no matter how good looking. That is precisely why this exercise is pointless, most women think like this.
PinkToes Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Absolutely no way to draw a conclusion from this. First of all, and we have this debate on LS all the time, attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. You could be drop-dead handsome by conventional standards, and still not 'attractive' to any random selection of women. And even if you were, there are all sorts of reasons why someone wouldn't necessarily start up a conversation with you on any given night. Personally, I doubt I'd initiate anything with a man in a bar, just because I think that's a pretty bad way to meet people.
J dub Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 That is precisely why this exercise is pointless, most women think like this. Yep And worse, if you are distracted by something on tv, a women is even LESS likely to approach and interrupt.
nddb Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 waste of time. If you want something or someone, sitting around ain't gonna to improve your chance of getting it.
Bejita463 Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 intimidatingly good looking Oh man, I know how that is. It is pretty difficult being really really ridiculously good looking.
and.then.some Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 I pick 5... Did you just call your race a "genetic disadvantage"? Oh, dear... *sigh* If you feel this way, I would suggest you take a little me time, and hold off on the dating for awhile. For your race to be a disadvantage to you, that means that you either a. don't particularly care for your race, or b. prefer women who are not of your own race. On that note, I'm going to leave this question alone. There are just too many places I could go with that! Beyond that, I pick 5 because most women aren't very aggressive with men. It would only tell you how well you attract more aggressive women, but it won't tell you why. It could mean you're some miscellaneous degree of attractive, or it could mean you look like an easy target. Some women prey on men in the same fashion that some men prey on women. As well, even the classiest bars are somewhat questionable. There is a tribe of women (and men) out there who don't take "bar people" seriously. People flirt or socialize just for the heck of it, and it doesn't always mean anything significant. Why worry so much about general attractiveness when you can't change it? Assuming you're looking for a relationship, it's only important that you be attractive (inside and out) to that right one. Good luck on your quest!
Malenfant Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Oh man, I know how that is. It is pretty difficult being really really ridiculously good looking. excellent!
hopesndreams Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 It's all about eye contact and holding it. Talking comes after, and it's usually initiated by the man. Don't check your phone. She'll think you are waiting for someone to join you and then lose whatever interest she had for you.
tkgirl Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Oh man, I know how that is. It is pretty difficult being really really ridiculously good looking. I loved that line! and to the OP, sounds like you got your answer... this "test" would be a ridiculously waste of time...
tigereyes1428 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 5 - no conclusion can be drawn from this - i would assume you were with a girl that worked there and most woman dont socialise alone and would not just randomly walk up to a man at the bar and if so - i'd question that type of woman..
amymarieca Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Although I think this experiment is kind of silly, why not try going on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday? I can't remember the last time I got dressed up on a Monday night to go meet men!
MissJoness Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 If you are sipping on some alcohol watching the game alone, while everybody else is talking and chatting w/ each other, it will make you look like you don't want to be bothered and this survery is just making my head spin. you know what will work? get some guy friends to go w/ you, ones that are outgoing and not afraid to talk to other women. usually when you are in groups ppl of the opposite sex will gravitate towards you
alphamichael Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Your experimental design is completely flawed... If you want to answer the question, am I genetically undesirable? you have to come up with a proper way of testing that question. You are not going to be doing that by sitting at a bar looking like a poor dope with nothing better to do then wait for a text message... Women are very good at testing genetic compatibility through their nose. You would be better off going to the grocery store and asking as many women as you can to smell your neck. The ones that think you smell good most likely will also be genetically compatible with you. Try to place yourself in a neutrally smelling part of the store like the pasta isle or something... Good luck!
TaraMaiden Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Hey guys.... Listen up... I went to my local bar last tuesday night, and there was this guy sat on a barstool, checking his mobile now and then, looking for all the world as if he was waiting for the sky to fall on his head.... He just sat there, looking round the bar occasionally... I think he spoke to the barman a couple of times, and sat there for three hours, nursing a drink or two.... He looked quite fit, but genetically disadvantaged, if you know what I mean - and I think you do..... I would have gone over to see if he was ok, but I had nine guys hit on me... so I was kinda busy. In the end, I went home with a 3' 7" midget with a fat wallet and a yacht in Monaco. Not that I'm shallow, or nuthin'.......
tami-chan Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Post a picture and let's see I say!!! Post a full length picture!
Bejita463 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I say!!! Post a full length picture! Maybe he doesn't have microfilm. Ahaha! I kid, I kid.
tami-chan Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Maybe he doesn't have microfilm. Ahaha! I kid, I kid. LOL!!!!! meanie.....he is serious about this, Bej!
torranceshipman Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 You listed your race as a genetic disadvantage. Are you kidding me?! Since when is race ever a genetic disadvantage?
Bejita463 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 LOL!!!!! meanie.....he is serious about this, Bej! Life is never so serious that anatomical humor is unfunny. Except when it is. ...which is never. You listed your race as a genetic disadvantage. Are you kidding me?! Since when is race ever a genetic disadvantage? When you are white, lanky, blond haired, and blue eyed. Clearly. I'm a walking white-guy stereotype, save me!
Author OpenGL Posted January 11, 2010 Author Posted January 11, 2010 You listed your race as a genetic disadvantage. Are you kidding me?! Since when is race ever a genetic disadvantage? The cat's already out the bag. This is a known issue in the dating world that has been proven over and over again. This problem is unqiue to men. http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/race-and-dating/ http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/emir.kamenica/documents/racialPreferences.pdf http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/10/05/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/ These studies are both for offline and online dating, so don't bother with the "this only happens online" excuse. There are MANY more studies than what I linked that all have the same conclusion. Your race, genetically determined, is a big factor in the dating market. This is fact.
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