Be honest, would it bother you if a guy's profession was...

[tkgirl]

*predicts the creation of yet another 100 threads on 'nice guys vs a-holes'*

 

oh man, I hope not!!!

[D-Jam]

Was just on my lovely dating site Plenty of Sh*T. Oops I mean Plenty of Fish. This might sound bad, but I'm curious what other people think of this. Would it bother you if a man was going into Nursing or going to become a Nurse as his profession? I know it's better than no career or job at all, but is it bad I would hesitant to date a man who wanted to do this.

 

The reason I'm asking is, I just got a message from a guy who is studying Nursing, and it made me realize it's kind of a turn off to me. It just seems odd. What about you?

 

I think it mostly depends on how many more options you have.

 

You can get turned off if you have a group of lawyers, doctors, and business professionals asking you out...but if you're instead being asked out by the male nurse and a load of bartenders and Wal-Mart employees...then you're being unrealistic.

 

Worse than that, what if the male nurse is the only guy who seemingly respects you while the doctors and lawyers don't? Seen that enough times too with men and women where they find people of the desired physical and/or financial standard, but none of them will treat them right. You have to take that into account as well.

 

Besides, nurses are becoming the new doctors. You'll rarely see a doctor anymore as nurses will handle it all. It's a more solid career than let's say real estate salesperson.

 

Up to you, but I think if you're having trouble meeting guys then you shouldn't get this picky. Standards are only good if you can attain them after all.

[betamanlet]

I think it mostly depends on how many more options you have.

 

You can get turned off if you have a group of lawyers, doctors, and business professionals asking you out...but if you're instead being asked out by the male nurse and a load of bartenders and Wal-Mart employees...then you're being unrealistic.

 

Worse than that, what if the male nurse is the only guy who seemingly respects you while the doctors and lawyers don't? Seen that enough times too with men and women where they find people of the desired physical and/or financial standard, but none of them will treat them right. You have to take that into account as well.

 

Besides, nurses are becoming the new doctors. You'll rarely see a doctor anymore as nurses will handle it all. It's a more solid career than let's say real estate salesperson.

 

Up to you, but I think if you're having trouble meeting guys then you shouldn't get this picky. Standards are only good if you can attain them after all.

 

 

It's her insecurities that's the problem. She worries what her friends would think if she was dating a murse.

 

Why anyone would have a problem with a stable work, that is in high demand, that pays well, I have no idea, but when you care more about what others think, and you have "expectations", meaning "men are supposed to do this, but women are free to do anything they want." It's another example of the multiple double standards that favor women instead of men...

 

Male engineer = expected

 

Female engineer = you go girl!

 

Female nurse = expected

 

male nurse = woman's job! what would my friends think?

[tkgirl]

I think it mostly depends on how many more options you have.

 

You can get turned off if you have a group of lawyers, doctors, and business professionals asking you out...but if you're instead being asked out by the male nurse and a load of bartenders and Wal-Mart employees...then you're being unrealistic.

 

Worse than that, what if the male nurse is the only guy who seemingly respects you while the doctors and lawyers don't? Seen that enough times too with men and women where they find people of the desired physical and/or financial standard, but none of them will treat them right. You have to take that into account as well.

 

Besides, nurses are becoming the new doctors. You'll rarely see a doctor anymore as nurses will handle it all. It's a more solid career than let's say real estate salesperson.

 

Up to you, but I think if you're having trouble meeting guys then you shouldn't get this picky. Standards are only good if you can attain them after all.

 

 

seriously, I have mucho respect for nurses... they are all bad-ass in my book, male or female. I've worked in healthcare over 15 years... I'm not a nurse myself, I do utrasounds... but I'm friends with many of them and they are great people, very caring and compassionate. I would have no trouble dating a murse.. hmmm.... maybe I need to check some of them out more!

[silic0ntoad]

Nursing is an excellent job choice....

 

....for those who care to preserve mankind.

 

I, rather, do not. Le sigh.

[littlebittle]

Male engineer = expected

 

Female engineer = you go girl!

 

My sister is an aerospace engineer, and no one I've ever known has expected her to be or do any less. Although it's true that gender role subtyping still exists as the result of pre-established social schemas, the lines are blurring as more people continue to get college degrees and enter the workforce. Regarding the "double standard" that you speak of, your comment tends to reveal more about your own biases than anything else.

[ordinary_girl]

I think it mostly depends on how many more options you have.

 

You can get turned off if you have a group of lawyers, doctors, and business professionals asking you out...but if you're instead being asked out by the male nurse and a load of bartenders and Wal-Mart employees...then you're being unrealistic.

 

Worse than that, what if the male nurse is the only guy who seemingly respects you while the doctors and lawyers don't? Seen that enough times too with men and women where they find people of the desired physical and/or financial standard, but none of them will treat them right. You have to take that into account as well.

 

Besides, nurses are becoming the new doctors. You'll rarely see a doctor anymore as nurses will handle it all. It's a more solid career than let's say real estate salesperson.

 

Up to you, but I think if you're having trouble meeting guys then you shouldn't get this picky. Standards are only good if you can attain them after all.

 

100% spot on especially the last two sentences. you can only be picky if you can afford it - especially if you haven't put much on the table yourself

[CarrieT]

How many of those 800 or so sex partners from the sex thread were Sumo wrestlers? Are you Turning Japanese?

 

My number was only in the hundreds, not 800s....

 

And my husband (the one who was having sex with other men), was 6'6", 320 pounds, so I guess the answer is only One. Although I have certainly been with gentlemen who are on the substantial side.

[tinktronik]

Nope. It wouldn't bother me in the least. To be a good nurse, you need serious dedication and the desire to help your fellow man. I have nothing but respect for any person who is or wants to be a nurse.

 

I am actually intrigued by the "professional caretaker" for just these reasons.

 

I think a lot of women like to be the giver in their relationships; thus they are turned off by the idea of a "care-taking" man because it seems effeminate to them.

 

I, however, am very attracted to the type of man who is drawn to caring for others. I run a business and work far too much. I probably focus too far into my own schedule demands and forget to handle the other myriad of things in my life. I also work hours that differ from most others, around the clock sometimes. I would be most likely very comfortable and compatible with someone in this field of work.

[jw90063]

I find it strange, how very few people who responded to this thread, can't begin to grasp why I or anyone else, may feel oddly about a male getting into Nursing. Funny how, after asking my share of friends and family since yesterday. Responses were "well, I don't know....kind of weird". "Well, it's not too common". That's the kind of response you get in the REAL world.

 

What's even more FUNNY, is how one of the only people in this thread who approached my preference with respect and was even the least bit understanding, was a guy who HAS a Nursing Degree himself.

 

To assume someone disrespects Nursing, and doesn't appreciate the job itself, is jumping to conclusions. TO be honest, I think a lot of you are just plain rude.

 

100% spot on especially the last two sentences. you can only be picky if you can afford it - especially if you haven't put much on the table yourself

 

 

I don't think I'm being picky, because I simply mentioned being a little put off by a Male doing a certain career. As I already mentioned, it's not a total deal breaker if he has other qualities I appreciate. Who are you to tell me if I can afford to be picky or not?! Get over yourself..

 

So, I guess me and ShadowPlay, need some therapy huh, since we were one of the only few people to dislike the idea of a male nurse.

[sally4sara]

To assume someone disrespects Nursing, and doesn't appreciate the job itself, is jumping to conclusions. TO be honest, I think a lot of you are just plain rude.

 

So, I guess me and ShadowPlay, need some therapy huh, since we were one of the only few people to dislike the idea of a male nurse.

 

I went back and checked; in your first post you asked other posters if they thought is was bad that you felt this way about male nurses.

 

So people have shared with you what their opinion of your views are and you've chosen to be offended EVERYTIME. The male nurse might have just been thinking he'd rather a woman who feels that way about his training, just didn't bother with him any further......

Do you think this thread was a good idea for you to start? I don't think you need therapy for your opinion on male nursing. Perhaps just some self exploration of why you get really defensive when others share their solicited opinion with you?

[ordinary_girl]

I find it strange, how very few people who responded to this thread, can't begin to grasp why I or anyone else, may feel oddly about a male getting into Nursing. Funny how, after asking my share of friends and family since yesterday. Responses were "well, I don't know....kind of weird". "Well, it's not too common". That's the kind of response you get in the REAL world.

 

What's even more FUNNY, is how one of the only people in this thread who approached my preference with respect and was even the least bit understanding, was a guy who HAS a Nursing Degree himself.

 

 

I don't think I'm being picky, because I simply mentioned being a little put off by a Male doing a certain career. As I already mentioned, it's not a total deal breaker if he has other qualities I appreciate. Who are you to tell me if I can afford to be picky or not?! Get over yourself..

 

you asked for opinions and that's what you got.

 

the highlighted lines came from people who have never been to a hospital I assume? because there are lots of male nurses there

[betamanlet]

I went back and checked; in your first post you asked other posters if they thought is was bad that you felt this way about male nurses.

 

So people have shared with you what their opinion of your views are and you've chosen to be offended EVERYTIME. The male nurse might have just been thinking he'd rather a woman who feels that way about his training, just didn't bother with him any further......

Do you think this thread was a good idea for you to start? I don't think you need therapy for your opinion on male nursing. Perhaps just some self exploration of why you get really defensive when others share their solicited opinion with you?

 

She's in ful defensive mode because she's revelaed she's insecure, has double standards, and cares what her friends think more than what she thinks.

 

The ONLY issue I would have with someone's job, is whether it's legal or not. But when you get to the point that it's "oh, that's not a man's job, so I wouldn't date him because my friends wouldn't be impressed!" then there is a serious problem.

 

If you live your live trying to impress others, all the time, you're going to live a miserable life.

[sally4sara]

She's in ful defensive mode because she's revelaed she's insecure, has double standards, and cares what her friends think more than what she thinks.

 

The ONLY issue I would have with someone's job, is whether it's legal or not. But when you get to the point that it's "oh, that's not a man's job, so I wouldn't date him because my friends wouldn't be impressed!" then there is a serious problem.

 

If you live your live trying to impress others, all the time, you're going to live a miserable life.

 

She reminds me of you.

[sugar_and_spice]

how did 'she cares more about what her friends think' come into all this?

I reread the OP and it's more about the fact that it's relatively unusual for a guy to go into nursing, not about what friends will think.

[jw90063]

I went back and checked; in your first post you asked other posters if they thought is was bad that you felt this way about male nurses.

 

So people have shared with you what their opinion of your views are and you've chosen to be offended EVERYTIME. The male nurse might have just been thinking he'd rather a woman who feels that way about his training, just didn't bother with him any further......

Do you think this thread was a good idea for you to start? I don't think you need therapy for your opinion on male nursing. Perhaps just some self exploration of why you get really defensive when others share their solicited opinion with you?

 

Uh, opinions are fine, but there are different way of delivering those. It's just a little much, after seeing one snotty comment after the next. Let's see, TBF, and a few other posters, who frequently contributed to this thread, were not incredibly insulting. I only take offense, when being accused of thinking backwards, discriminating or lacking respect for nurses in general. Let's see, eye rolls all over the place, telling me " I need a little education under my belt", as if I'm an idiot. Also, making comments regarding "someone has no room to be picky, if they haven't put much on the table themselves". I mean is all that really necessary.

 

I don't see how someone can take " I think nursing is too feminine for a male" and create so many conclusions. Especially after I clarified I wouldn't definitely blow a guy off because of his career. I don't think there is a need to question my intellectual capacity over this matter(which was in more than one post), I don't think anything I have said is that unreasonable. I never said male nursing or nursing its self is totally inappropriate and a complete deal breaker for me.

 

She's in ful defensive mode because she's revelaed she's insecure, has double standards, and cares what her friends think more than what she thinks.

 

The ONLY issue I would have with someone's job, is whether it's legal or not. But when you get to the point that it's "oh, that's not a man's job, so I wouldn't date him because my friends wouldn't be impressed!" then there is a serious problem.

 

If you live your live trying to impress others, all the time, you're going to live a miserable life.

 

 

Seriously, Beta. It's clear you have a major dilemma with anyone who takes away attention from your threads. How about create one of your own, and go with it? Everyone has insecurities, no need to beat a dead horse over it. Believe me, it's not just about what others think, but that is a factor. I think most people at some point care what other people think.

[sally4sara]

Uh, opinions are fine, but there are different way of delivering those. It's just a little much, after seeing one snotty comment after the next. Let's see, TBF, and a few other posters, who frequently contributed to this thread, were not incredibly insulting. I only take offense, when being accused of thinking backwards, discriminating or lacking respect for nurses in general. Let's see, eye rolls all over the place, telling me " I need a little education under my belt", as if I'm an idiot. Also, making comments regarding "someone has no room to be picky, if they haven't put much on the table themselves". I mean is all that really necessary.

 

I don't see how someone can take " I think nursing is too feminine for a male" and create so many conclusions. Especially after I clarified I wouldn't definitely blow a guy off because of his career. I don't think there is a need to question my intellectual capacity over this matter(which was in more than one post), I don't think anything I have said is that unreasonable. I never said male nursing or nursing its self is totally inappropriate and a complete deal breaker for me.

 

I didn't do any of those things. I shared my opinion on it but told you the views of others might not work for you and you launched into full on attack. And all for opinions you asked for. I doubt I'll see an apology over it either.

You should date whoever appeals to you, but you should also examine how being high strung and sensitive like that can hurt your chances in the dating world - just another opinion.......

[ordinary_girl]

"someone has no room to be picky, if they haven't put much on the table themselves"

 

that was a general comment by the way, it wasn't aimed at you. I don't know what you have or don't have so I wouldn't comment on you personally. it was along the general lines of people's expectations being high

[CarrieT]

She's in ful defensive mode because she's revelaed she's insecure, has double standards, and cares what her friends think more than what she thinks.

 

And don't forget she is also the same poster who -- in the "How Many Sexual Partners" thread had to be shut down for her demeaning and pejorative stance against Lizzie and me...

[sally4sara]

And don't forget she is also the same poster who -- in the "How Many Sexual Partners" thread had to be shut down for her demeaning and pejorative stance against Lizzie and me...

 

Ohhh and the thread about dominance - nothing she likes or is interested in but we allllll had to hear her two cents on the matter because we should feel bad about her OPINION.

[jw90063]

You should date whoever appeals to you, but you should also examine how being high strung and sensitive like that can hurt your chances in the dating world - just another opinion.......

 

Really. You're right, your opinion wasn't as outrageous as some, but you did say you think its narrow, unfounded and ridiculous for me to think such things about male nursing. It's fine though, really. However, I think I have every right to be sensitive to SOME of the comments related to my intelligence and such, because if you look back you will see what I mean.

 

Again, no need to tell me what will hurt my chances of dating, because that is in no relation to this thread. Anyhow didn't come on here to argue.

 

For the record, being a male nurse is not that appealing to me. On the other hand, if I happened to meet a great guy and he was a nurse, I wouldn't completely brush him off because of it.

 

 

And don't forget she is also the same poster who -- in the "How Many Sexual Partners" thread had to be shut down for her demeaning and pejorative stance against Lizzie and me...

 

That's in no relation to this thread, but thank you. The thread was not shut down because of my posts. Where on earth did you come up with such a false conclusion. I'm sorry, but if you must know, most people do not find a high number of sexual partners unappealing. I think that is far worse, than having an issue with a Male going into Nursing. And I'm sorry, I don't approve of bizarre domination acts. As if most people do....

 

Hope you all have a lovely day hijacking this thread.........

[e.clipse]

i think i was the one who said you have backwards-thinking, so, let me rephrase that: you have backwards-thinking when it comes to nursing and gender roles.

 

i'm not trying to be insulting, but it's the truth. you think nursing is a femenine job because you grew up with the illusion that nursing is a female-oriented job, and you are not the only one who grew up thinking that.

 

however, by today's day and age, when gender roles have nuch less bearing on our occupation of choice, which is good thing, because it is a sign of progressive thinking--an acknowledgment that just because you have a vagina or a penis, it by default means you are not suited for a particular job.

 

as SG said, not even that long ago, doctors, attorneys, enginners, etc., were male dominated and it was thought as as bizarre if a female dared enter that profression. why? because society was used to it; nowadays, it is common place, and no one would say it is masculine for a female to be any of those things.

 

and why is that? because our thinking was been going forward, hence my comment about you having backwards-thinking.

 

ultimately, though, it is your choice--who you date and who you don't--just like it is your choice to start threads you know are going to be controversial. what did you expect?

[CarrieT]

i think i was the one who said you have backwards-thinking, so, let me rephrase that: you have backwards-thinking when it comes to nursing and gender roles.

 

Excellent point. The OP seems to have backwards thinking in many regards and while she accuses me of hijacking the thread, I think my point aptly depicts that she has some backwards thinking in being open to other people's point of view to the extent of pejoratively shutting down anyone who does not agree with her.

[betamanlet]

Uh, opinions are fine, but there are different way of delivering those. It's just a little much, after seeing one snotty comment after the next. Let's see, TBF, and a few other posters, who frequently contributed to this thread, were not incredibly insulting. I only take offense, when being accused of thinking backwards, discriminating or lacking respect for nurses in general. Let's see, eye rolls all over the place, telling me " I need a little education under my belt", as if I'm an idiot. Also, making comments regarding "someone has no room to be picky, if they haven't put much on the table themselves". I mean is all that really necessary.

 

I don't see how someone can take " I think nursing is too feminine for a male" and create so many conclusions. Especially after I clarified I wouldn't definitely blow a guy off because of his career. I don't think there is a need to question my intellectual capacity over this matter(which was in more than one post), I don't think anything I have said is that unreasonable. I never said male nursing or nursing its self is totally inappropriate and a complete deal breaker for me.

 

 

 

 

Seriously, Beta. It's clear you have a major dilemma with anyone who takes away attention from your threads. How about create one of your own, and go with it? Everyone has insecurities, no need to beat a dead horse over it. Believe me, it's not just about what others think, but that is a factor. I think most people at some point care what other people think.

 

I'm not the one starting threads stating I don't think I could date a female whatever because of what my friends might think.

 

Be honest, you would also not date a guy whose car you wouldn't want to be seen in, either, right? What would your friends think, right?

 

it's like men are a fashion accessory for you. They need to be shown off.

 

Is this economy people are lucky to even have jobs, yet you wholesally eliminate all male nurses because you think that men shouldn't do that work.

[betamanlet]

Hypothetical. Say if the profession of nursing were renamed to "Medical Assistant". All the duties were the same, suddenly you wouldn['t have as much of a problem with what he does? The label is your problem?