boogieboy Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I think the only reason anyone would have a problem with a male nurse is only the name. Its like the guy named Stacy. The job is not gender oriented its just gender dominated. Doesnt mean its immasculine to take care of people in a hospital. If the male nurse was called an "Enfermist", no one would have a problem with it. Sooner or later the term "nurse" will be phased out as more men go into it.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I've tried to lift up my husband who weighs around 180 - 185 lbs. Can't budge him when he just lies there. Sounds like you need some strength training, physical weakness is not a sign of height it is a sign of being out of shape.
threebyfate Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Do you ever put the claws away TBF? No she was not bult like a tank thank you. She was just a strong capable woman who knew how to do her job.I'm being serious and not facetious. It's not possible unless she's some kind of hulking brute of a woman at her height. This is coming from someone who works out almost daily, albeit not with weights and with no emphasis on upper body strength. Have you ever tried to pick up a man who's not helping you, whether he's unconscious or not? There are ways that you can roll people who are unconscious, which I learned through the old first aid course I took but to actually move this person from bed to bed, or to pick them up off the floor where they've fallen, is impossible, at least for someone like myself.
wheream_i Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I can honestly say that it wouldn't have bothered me when I was single. If anything, I would be proud to be with a guy who's dedicated and intense about his profession. Until you complain that he works too much and doesn't make quality time for you, right?
threebyfate Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Until you complain that he works too much and doesn't make quality time for you, right? Nope, my husband works A LOT and I have no complaints. But then, he doesn't complain about my work either.
anne1707 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) TBF I think I know my mother better than you so how about you drop this now. I am not lying. You are wrong. Simple as that. By the way - I can lift my husband and I am not built like a tank either and am only 5' tall and he is over 6'. Plus you obviously do not know much about nursing because no nurse, male or female, would attempt to carry a patient from one bed to another as you describe. Edited December 29, 2009 by anne1707
Author jw90063 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Posted December 29, 2009 I think is is narrow, unfounded, and ridiculous that you see his nursing training as emasculating, but ultimately it is up to you to decide if the way you feel about about it is a bad thing for you to do. You are not me so my views on it might not work for you. Oh brother, while I totally understand the views of other's on this matter, I get the sense a few of you are taking this opportunity to put me in my place, due to a couple other controversial threads on here. Hey, it's fine if you truly think Nursing is cool, but if you(only speaking of a few people) are really just trying to disagree with me or in no way see my side-as to why it would be a turn off....that's not cool... Just because I don't see Nursing as an appealing profession for men, doesn't mean I'm being ridiculous and narrow minded. I never said it was terrible, but I can't help it bothers me. I feel kind of bad about it, but can't help how you feel. Oh Sally, you are the one that likes to lead men around on leashes and such. Nevermind.....why would we have the same views on anything
burning 4 revenge Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I'm being serious and not facetious. It's not possible unless she's some kind of hulking brute of a woman at her height. This is coming from someone who works out almost daily, albeit not with weights and with no emphasis on upper body strength. Have you ever tried to pick up a man who's not helping you, whether he's unconscious or not? There are ways that you can roll people who are unconscious, which I learned through the old first aid course I took but to actually move this person from bed to bed, or to pick them up off the floor where they've fallen, is impossible, at least for someone like myself. It is very difficult Especially getting their clothes off to bathe them (and especially if theyre fighting you because they have Alzheimer's or something that impededs their mental faculties) If theyve fallen there is something called the Hoyer lift thank God and they use that to move them from bed to bed or off the floor, but youre right it is physically demanding and unless someone has done this kind of work themselves then they dont really know
Buckeye Candy Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 What if they changed the name from Nurse to something like Medical Technician? Do you think the functions of the job are womanly or only the name of the profession? I make candy for a living and spend my days and nights in the kitchen. Is that a turn off to you?
edward-e Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 actually almost anyone can lift a lot of weight if you learn how to lift, and in school they show you how to lift properly.... yeah inspiredbyyou it is pretty hot, i notice a lot of women staring me down. if i was a manwhore id be knee deep in it...but i think male nurses deal with just as much as stuff as firefighters/paramedics. when i worked in the hospital for a couple months i saw much worse scenarios than you do working as a firefighter... i gotta say though, if i work as a trauma ward nurse i could make a lot more money then i could as a firefighter. 72k compared to 120k is no comparison...thats why they wanna be nurses...
threebyfate Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Then all you ladies are much stronger than I am. But then, I'm kind of petite, both height and weight wise. Even pregnant, I only weigh 114 lbs at my height, so this might be the difference. But I still stand by, that men are naturally pound for pound stronger than women, hence why they wouldn't be as physically challenged as women, in nursing, when it comes to hauling around people who can't be moved around. So, this would be an advantage for men, who want to get into nursing.
anne1707 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 If theyve fallen there is something called the Hoyer lift thank God and they use that to move them from bed to bed or off the floor, but youre right it is physically demanding and unless someone has done this kind of work themselves then they dont really know Exactly as I said re my mother - she knew how to do her job.
sally4sara Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Oh brother, while I totally understand the views of other's on this matter, I get the sense a few of you are taking this opportunity to put me in my place, due to a couple other controversial threads on here. Hey, it's fine if you truly think Nursing is cool, but if you(only speaking of a few people) are really just trying to disagree with me or in no way see my side-as to why it would be a turn off....that's not cool... Just because I don't see Nursing as an appealing profession for men, doesn't mean I'm being ridiculous and narrow minded. I never said it was terrible, but I can't help it bothers me. I feel kind of bad about it, but can't help how you feel. Oh Sally, you are the one that likes to lead men around on leashes and such. Nevermind.....why would we have the same views on anything Dear me. The point was to measure yourself by your own belief standards because using the standard of others often leads to disappointment and insult. Thanks for demonstrating the insult part.
threebyfate Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 It is very difficult Especially getting their clothes off to bathe them (and especially if theyre fighting you because they have Alzheimer's or something that impededs their mental faculties) If theyve fallen there is something called the Hoyer lift thank God and they use that to move them from bed to bed or off the floor, but youre right it is physically demanding and unless someone has done this kind of work themselves then they dont really knowAs mentioned in my prior post, this would be an advantage to men, within the nursing profession. I'm not certain what part of nursing, could be considered feminine.
anne1707 Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Both my mother and I are petite too thank you TBF
Author jw90063 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Posted December 30, 2009 I make candy for a living and spend my days and nights in the kitchen. Is that a turn off to you? How is that in any way related to a male being a nurse?!
InspiredbyYou Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Being out of shape has nothing to do with how much someone weighs or how tall they are, it means their muscles are flaccid. Besides a nurse is never on call alone, get a grip people....there is always more than one person to help even if you do have to pick one person off the floor who is unconscious.
Crazy Magnet Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Would you still find it wrong for a man to be a nurse if he was a nurse practitioner? Or a nurse with a PhD or DNP? Interesting view of nursing....seems like many of those who would have an issue with a man nurse aren't really aware of what nursing is like these days. It's not cleaning up vomit and poop, that's what techs are for. Nurses do a LOT of complex procedures, many of which were done by physicians several years ago. As doctors continue to specialize, a lot of the old"doctor" tasks are being passed on to nursing. Likewise, nursing "tasks" are now being passed on to techs. When was the last time anybody actually had an RN take their vitals in a hospital? For example...Who do you think puts you back together (as in stitches you back up) after surgery? Your doctor?!? Nope...that would be a nurse.
edward-e Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Being out of shape has nothing to do with how much someone weighs or how tall they are, it means their muscles are flaccid. Besides a nurse is never on call alone, get a grip people....there is always more than one person to help even if you do have to pick one person off the floor who is unconscious. yeah you got Emergency medical technicians who work there....and they are mainly guys anyways....so it would make no difference either way.
boogieboy Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 What about men? What do you think of other males doing this profession? Nothing strange about it? I mean a Doctor, ok, but Nurse not so much. It just doesn't seem too masculine. Wow, I must be one in a million to think this. How do you connect "Nurse" with non-masculinity? Its just a job, it has nothing to do with gender.
Buckeye Candy Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 How is that in any way related to a male being a nurse?! Because a lot of people think pastry making, cake decorating and creating chocolates is feminine? Probably more feminine than the job functions of a nurse.
pandagirl Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Really, I would have no problem if a guy was a nurse. Yes, nurse has the stereotype of being a "woman's" occupation, but there was also a time when a doctor was always expected to be a man.
Author jw90063 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Posted December 30, 2009 Because a lot of people think pastry making, cake decorating and creating chocolates is feminine? Probably more feminine than the job functions of a nurse. Some people might think its feminine, but there are lots of guys who get into Culinary Arts . I mean is that NOT more common than Nursing??
Buckeye Candy Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Really, I would have no problem if a guy was a nurse. Yes, nurse has the stereotype of being a "woman's" occupation, but there was also a time when a doctor was always expected to be a man. Good point. I think it is the word Nurse that is the turn off trigger since nurse sounds feminine. Like someone else pointed out, there isn't really anything overtly feminine about the actual duties of a nurse. Some of the women in this thread should challenge themselves to have a more open mind.
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