Pyro Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I've never had a problem attracting girls and I am neither a doormat nor a jerk.
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 then stop complaining and obsessing, you sound sad and creepy. i just call 'em like i see 'em. i'm NOT complaining people ask me my opinion and i express it i have great time being alive i'm just nursing a broken hand i got @ work and i just stumbled on this site by chance. believe me, skydivers are never 'sad and creepy" life's way too much fun to waste on that s..t
Zeegagge Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I used to be a beta, that was years ago. One day I realized I wasn't getting anywhere like that. Changed my hair my gear my scene and my attitude and life has been way better ever since. I was dating a girl, new relationship, and she started giving me crap about one of my female friends, saying she wanted me and I had to stop to hanging with her. I knew this friend didnt want me and we had been friends for years. The old me would've just given up and taken it lying down. The new me drove to my girlfriends house pissed off, told her how it was and that I wasnt about to give up an old friend for her and this is how it was going to be. Puffed up my chest and didnt back down for a second. I seriously thought she would dump me but I didnt care. I earned ten million iotas of respect in her eyes that day and things were good for a long time afterwards. Got to hang out with both of them and maybe even heard a slight apology in there somewhere. I've never looked back.
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 SDA, for your NY's Resolution you should change your mindset. At least then you won't have your tail between your legs. naw it's way too late now that's my story & i'm stickin to it
Pyro Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I used to be a beta, that was years ago. One day I realized I wasn't getting anywhere like that. Changed my hair my gear my scene and my attitude and life has been way better ever since. I was dating a girl, new relationship, and she started giving me crap about one of my female friends, saying she wanted me and I had to stop to hanging with her. I knew this friend didnt want me and we had been friends for years. The old me would've just given up and taken it lying down. The new me drove to my girlfriends house pissed off, told her how it was and that I wasnt about to give up an old friend for her and this is how it was going to be. Puffed up my chest and didnt back down for a second. I seriously thought she would dump me but I didnt care. I earned ten million iotas of respect in her eyes that day and things were good for a long time afterwards. Got to hang out with both of them and maybe even heard a slight apology in there somewhere. I've never looked back. and that is neither doormat nor jerk behavior. You asserted yourself and put your foot down. Good for you.
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 I used to be a beta, that was years ago. One day I realized I wasn't getting anywhere like that. Changed my hair my gear my scene and my attitude and life has been way better ever since. I was dating a girl, new relationship, and she started giving me crap about one of my female friends, saying she wanted me and I had to stop to hanging with her. I knew this friend didnt want me and we had been friends for years. The old me would've just given up and taken it lying down. The new me drove to my girlfriends house pissed off, told her how it was and that I wasnt about to give up an old friend for her and this is how it was going to be. Puffed up my chest and didnt back down for a second. I seriously thought she would dump me but I didnt care. I earned ten million iotas of respect in her eyes that day and things were good for a long time afterwards. Got to hang out with both of them and maybe even heard a slight apology in there somewhere. I've never looked back. NOW THATS WHAT'S I'M TALKING ABOUT! morphing from dormat to stud will change you life forever!
betamanlet Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 No offense but with that line of thinking its no mystery why you are single. Ask a woman you know well, who you can be perfectly honest with, and she'll tell this to you. Would you be shocked if I said most women are into designer clothes, style, fashion, and shopping as well?
Pyro Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Ask a woman you know well, who you can be perfectly honest with, and she'll tell this to you. Would you be shocked if I said most women are into designer clothes, style, fashion, and shopping as well? I just asked her and she disagrees with you so try again. She does like to shop though.
betamanlet Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I just asked her and she disagrees with you so try again. She does like to shop though. Ask her also if she does drama. She will of course say she doesn't. Truth is, is that she does.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I still have more beta than I'd like in me and want to be a bit more alpha. I think it's laughable when people refer to themselves as "alphas" These same people fail to see the irony of their words. A true alpha leads by example not by bullying others into noticing their "leadership" qualities. More often than not they lack the clear direction that a true leader possess. Besides the term "alpha" when referring to humans, is such a cyber junkie term! If you take notice all those who claim to be alpha's are in fact just bullies. Confidence and leadership come in many forms, insolence is not one of them. Why anyone would want to label themselves this prefabricated name is beyond me?
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 I just asked her and she disagrees with you so try again. She does like to shop though. of course ! she's pretending to disagree, but you know it's not the truth
Pyro Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Ask her also if she does drama. She will of course say she doesn't. Truth is, is that she does. with this line of thinking you should have ladies all over your nuts.
Pyro Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 of course ! she's pretending to disagree, but you know it's not the truth Of course. You must have met her and know her well:rolleyes:
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 Why anyone would want to label themselves this prefabricated name is beyond me? that's societies' label not mine assertive guys get the ladies, passive ones dont. it's just that simple
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 Of course. You must have met her and know her well:rolleyes: good point' you're right. i was generalizing there i shouldn't have said that
thegreatmoose Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I think it's laughable when people refer to themselves as "alphas" These same people fail to see the irony of their words. A true alpha leads by example not by bullying others into noticing their "leadership" qualities. More often than not they lack the clear direction that a true leader possess. Besides the term "alpha" when referring to humans, is such a cyber junkie term! If you take notice all those who claim to be alpha's are in fact just bullies. Confidence and leadership come in many forms, insolence is not one of them. Why anyone would want to label themselves this prefabricated name is beyond me? I definitely agree. Those who claim to be alphas do seem to be bullies. Those who claim to be betas seem to be doormats. This is why I feel 95+% of the population is somewhere between so called "alpha" and so called "beta". People have a very complex mix of traits. They can be leaders in one setting and get walked all over in another setting.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 assertive guys get the ladies, passive ones dont. it's just that simple That is what it boils down to.
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 I definitely agree. Those who claim to be alphas do seem to be bullies. Those who claim to be betas seem to be doormats. This is why I feel 95+% of the population is somewhere between so called "alpha" and so called "beta". People have a very complex mix of traits. They can be leaders in one setting and get walked all over in another setting. no one in his right mind woud claim to be a "beta" with any degree of self respect. men naturally seek to be the "alpha" that women crave. you are either a leader or a follower. there is no in between
betamanlet Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 That is what it boils down to. An assertive serial killer is more desirable than a passive beta. Betamales are lower than pedophiles, child rapists, and serial killers in the realm of desirability by females.
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 That is what it boils down to. i knew that you secertly agreed w/ me
InspiredbyYou Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I definitely agree. Those who claim to be alphas do seem to be bullies. Those who claim to be betas seem to be doormats. This is why I feel 95+% of the population is somewhere between so called "alpha" and so called "beta". People have a very complex mix of traits. They can be leaders in one setting and get walked all over in another setting. That is very true. People who choose either one of those extreme labels to adhere to are people who ultimately know they are weaker than the majority. At least they are honest about their fallacies.
Pyro Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 i knew that you secertly agreed w/ me Fine line between your alpha/beta and her passive/assertive comparison.
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 That is very true. People who choose either one of those extreme labels to adhere to are people who ultimately know they are weaker than the majority. At least they are honest about their fallacies. no one chooses those labels. they are personality traits. (which can be changed btw) you said it youself, women will always go for the outgoing confident dude rather than the shy insecure one. it's nobody's fault, it's just the way it is
Author skydiveaddict Posted December 28, 2009 Author Posted December 28, 2009 Fine line between your alpha/beta and her passive/assertive comparison. perhaps, but to me it's a fairly clear distinction
InspiredbyYou Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 no one chooses those labels. You'd be surprised kid at how many self-professed alphas are out there these days! It's just another fancy name for bully power trippin' attention whore really...but shhhh they are the last to know of course!
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