Kamille Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 A long time ago, if you did the right thing, more times than not, you'd be rewarded by it. The world just made sense. If someone's doing the right thing to get a reward, then they're not really doing the right thing for the right reasons are they? Do the right thing because that corresponds to who you are, not because it should get results. Being true to yourself and doing things because they make sense to you... That's what most of us mean when we talk about confidence. This ties back to the nice guy conversation. A genuine nice guy is interested in getting to know me for me and has no expectations on how I should act or behave. He also gives himself the room to get to know me before deciding to get involved with me. He does things because he feels like it, not because he's expecting a particular result.
GoodOnPaper Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 It's more guys who go on and on about the 'problem' with 'women' and who have, at times, actually lamented the social transformations that have been on-going since the 1950s (they often simply reduce it to 'feminism' because it serves their argument that obviously the problem is women). I don't know about lamenting -- it's fruitless to dwell on slightly improbable things like time reversal . . . but I do think a lot of us with "nice guy" tendencies would have fared better socially in a '50s-type society. For one thing, being good-on-paper was considered a positive -- you didn't have to develop a completely different social persona to succeed. Also, a guy being open to the idea of an LTR in his teens or early twenties didn't scare women away in droves like it does now. Of course back then, most people launched their "real lives" -- careers and marriages -- in their early 20's. Now, with post-graduate training needed for so many career avenues, "real life" may not start until the late 20's or 30's. I think this transformation may be bigger than feminism issues that some complain about.
IrishCarBomb Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 I don't find nice guys attractive at all!
betamanlet Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 I'm not clicking on that link, since I have no idea about the site. As far as being a messenger, you're delivering the message about trailertrash women, not normal women. It's like me delivering the message about how disgusting trailertrash men are but couching it in terms of all men or a large portion of men. Abracadabra, betamanlet, you're now officially one of the trailertrash men because I said so... Who are you to judge these women? They are different than what you claim to be, so they are "trailertrash"?
betamanlet Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 I don't find nice guys attractive at all! So you're actually honest, and probably one of the few that knows what she wants.
Author shadowplay Posted December 26, 2009 Author Posted December 26, 2009 So you're actually honest, and probably one of the few that knows what she wants. ICB is a MAN.
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