Hot Carl Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 ...yet I can't get a date to save my life? I thought you had resigned yourself to a life of celibacy.
bayouboi Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 My requirements for a woman are: (1) relatively sane You see?! Your standards are impossible to fulfill!
Yukikazi Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 Assume what you say is true, which it isn't. How come there are women that stick with guys who beat them (obviously they hate them) yet I can't get a date to save my life? Because you do nothing except complain about your situation. You reek of desperation most likely and turn off any woman you try to meet. You seriously need an attitude adjustment or you will be alone forever regardless of how nice you are or are not. People here have tried to help you.. given you advice but you persist in nothing other then complaining. Until you are ready to improve yourself.. talking to you is like pissing into a strong breeze. As I don't want to get backsplash.. I remove myself from this whaambulance until you are prepared to adjust yourself.
meerkat stew Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Again, I refuse to become someone I'm not just to get women. When you went to law school, you spent lots of time and money to transform your mind in a very fundamental way, in essence, by your logic, you became someone you were not somewhere in the process. Attraction is much less of a change than learning the law. When you learned to swim, speak a language, play an instrument, learned a foreign culture, etc., weren't you "you in learning mode?" or becoming someone you were not in the act of learning? I submit to you that it is in fact utterly impossible to "become someone you are not" other than by dying. Even if you grow a moustache, shave your head bald, have height extension surgery, and cover your body with tattoos, you are just you who decided to do all those things. Your greatest problem is the comfortable rationalization that learning to make yourself the most attractive you can be is somehow insincere or cheapening yourself. The rationalization is comfortable in allowing you to sit back and reinforce it, to bemoan your status instead of increasing it. A house with a new paint job is still the same house. It wasn't transformed somehow by a merely cosmetic change. Get off the couch and paint your freaking house already!
espec10001 Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Maybe I can relate better to someone who hasn't had sex in 4 years than to someone who can get laid whenever they want? It just seems more credible coming from him, as he is experiencing it, what I'm living.. Why don't you look yourself in the mirror, and each time say to yourself "I am a great man, a worthy catch for any woman that I want, and when the time is right, I will get her."
Author betamanlet Posted December 24, 2009 Author Posted December 24, 2009 Why don't you look yourself in the mirror, and each time say to yourself "I am a great man, a worthy catch for any woman that I want, and when the time is right, I will get her." While that could be true, the p roblem I see is this might happen when I'm 45 or 70. The p oint is is that I missed out on the young, attractive years. if I'm 45, and the woman is around my age, I can kiss having a family goodbye.. And would these women have dated me when they were younger? I don't want someone who wouldn't have wanted me when they were younger.
alphamale Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 I don't want someone who wouldn't have wanted me when they were younger. why not? stop the self-flagellation
Author betamanlet Posted December 24, 2009 Author Posted December 24, 2009 why not? stop the self-flagellation would you? I should take someone at age 66 would never have given me the time of day when she was 26? That's desperation if you'd do that.
PinkToes Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Again, I refuse to become someone I'm not just to get women. This is the most significant thing you've said in this entire thread. It acknowledges that what you're doing is a choice. Maybe the situation sucks and it isn't fair and from where you stand, you'd have better luck getting women if you were on death row. But you're not a victim. You are choosing to be yourself, even if it means you aren't getting laid. Own that. Doesn't change the reality, for now, but it may change your attitude, which will help you deal.
Author betamanlet Posted December 24, 2009 Author Posted December 24, 2009 This is the most significant thing you've said in this entire thread. It acknowledges that what you're doing is a choice. Maybe the situation sucks and it isn't fair and from where you stand, you'd have better luck getting women if you were on death row. But you're not a victim. You are choosing to be yourself, even if it means you aren't getting laid. Own that. Doesn't change the reality, for now, but it may change your attitude, which will help you deal. Give me any other situation where you would tell someone to not be themselves. Especially to a woman..
PinkToes Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Give me any other situation where you would tell someone to not be themselves. Especially to a woman.. I'm not suggesting that at all; no one should change who they are unless they really want to change. I'm just saying that being true to who you are may not always get you what you want. I'd have a lot more money if I'd chosen a different career path. Being a jerk might get you more women. Who knows. Just saying you should own it, whatever it is that drives you to be who you are.
kiss_andmakeup Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 If no one here could possibly understand you, and you only refute the advice you receive, then why oh why do you continue to post here? I am really quite curious. Yes. There are many double-standards for men and women. Women can complain and cry and be weak but not be criticized because it is an accepted part of the feminine characteristic. Men are criticized for being emotionally open because it doesn't fit into the masculine characteristic. It sucks. Sorry.\ Women can be emotionally or socially retarded and still get laid. Men can't. That said, men can sleep with 100 women a year and be heroes, but women who do that are considered by most to be repulsive sluts. It sucks. Sorry. Get. Over. It. If I were close to you and single I might just come have sex with you so you'd shut up.
D-Jam Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Betamanlet, if I were there in person I'd slap you across the face so hard you would cry like a baby. Geez...I didn't even go though all the pages. Just your initial post and your pathetic "woe is me" spiel. Yet again you wish the world would become fair when it's not. You remind me of others who keep delving out questions and toying around them...trying to ask if there is any case or scenario where life can be fair. I've stated in other topics what people like you can do...but you don't listen. You don't want to listen. You're like the women who cry and complain, but only want to hear how beautiful they are and how special they are. Hit them with hard truth and they get defensive, make excuses, or fight. If you hate your dating life so much, then FIX IT. I get so fed up with the guys here who will go on and on and on about how they get rejected and such, but they never really take real steps. Why don't you guys who moan here (not naming names) get a REAL DATING COACH? I've mentioned this before. If you're having so much bad luck, why do you think talking on a board or reading some articles will help? WHY NOT GET SOME REAL HELP?? Forget it though. You don't want help. You want miracles. You want sympathy. You want the world to magically give you what you want without you doing anything for it. The same old typical BS from all these "boys" who can't ever seem to become MEN. So keep whining. I'm done trying to help. You have the advice, but you don't want to take it.
threebyfate Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 If no one here could possibly understand you, and you only refute the advice you receive, then why oh why do you continue to post here? I am really quite curious. He continues to post for one or all of three reasons: It gets him female attention, thus negative attention is better than no attention, which makes me wonder about Histrionic Personality Disorder.It's the revenge of the Nerds or Nerds unite. The more guys he can drag down with him, the more normal and justified he feels.He's a troll.
gopher Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Except other betas... The closest analogy I can give to what it's like, is like being a jew on christmas, but 365 days a year. This is what life is like for betas. You never had a girlfriend in high school, you never want to homecoming or prom, you graduate college a virgin, if you go to grad school, you graduate that a virgin. You realize that there are 14 years in high school that have way more sex than you ever will. When you reach your 30s, you've never even had a relationship, while everyone else you know is probably even divorced by now. If women knew about your lack of experience, you would never be considered, hence you have to hide it, should you even get a chance. You walk outside, and constantly see couples, and realize, it's unlikely that will ever happen to you. You cannot contemplate what being a beta is like, so when you write your scathing comments, insults, or whatever, it's like you insulting a blind person, not knowing what being blind is like. honestly, can you comprehend not knowing what red looks like? someone who was blind from birth has no concept of what red is, and you cannot possibly relate. Betas are social cripples, outcasts of society even more so than ex cons, for at least there are some women interested in them. Betas exist to pay taxes, nothing more. Good lord dude, give it a rest. I can tell you that without a doubt, that I am NOT an alpha male, but I have a wonderful g/f, have been VERY successful in my career, and have 3 great kids. How did I do all this? Certainly not by whining, sitting home and going "woe is me, woe is me" I got off my butt, did the things I wanted to do in life. I had fun, enjoyed myself and that made me attractive to the opposite sex. In business, I found a way to be successful in my career with my personality traits, by connecting with people, not rolling over them or trying to sway them, the way an alpha "might" do. I know what it's like to be a Beta male, and what's more....a successful Beta male. So, quit bitching, get off your a** and do something with your life.
threebyfate Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Good lord dude, give it a rest. I can tell you that without a doubt, that I am NOT an alpha male, but I have a wonderful g/f, have been VERY successful in my career, and have 3 great kids. How did I do all this? Certainly not by whining, sitting home and going "woe is me, woe is me" I got off my butt, did the things I wanted to do in life. I had fun, enjoyed myself and that made me attractive to the opposite sex. In business, I found a way to be successful in my career with my personality traits, by connecting with people, not rolling over them or trying to sway them, the way an alpha "might" do. I know what it's like to be a Beta male, and what's more....a successful Beta male. So, quit bitching, get off your a** and do something with your life. 'Tis the way!!
Author betamanlet Posted December 24, 2009 Author Posted December 24, 2009 Good lord dude, give it a rest. I can tell you that without a doubt, that I am NOT an alpha male, but I have a wonderful g/f, have been VERY successful in my career, and have 3 great kids. How did I do all this? Certainly not by whining, sitting home and going "woe is me, woe is me" I got off my butt, did the things I wanted to do in life. I had fun, enjoyed myself and that made me attractive to the opposite sex. In business, I found a way to be successful in my career with my personality traits, by connecting with people, not rolling over them or trying to sway them, the way an alpha "might" do. I know what it's like to be a Beta male, and what's more....a successful Beta male. So, quit bitching, get off your a** and do something with your life. yup, i made law review and got published and cited in casebooks and treatises and law review articles because I sit on my butt and do nothing.
Yukikazi Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 yup, i made law review and got published and cited in casebooks and treatises and law review articles because I sit on my butt and do nothing. Obviously success in 1 part of life isn't translating into another. Dude.. you whine like a mule.. If the way you are heading in life isn;t working.. obviously you need to change something.. if you refuse to change then you will never acheive what you want. You WILL die a lonely virgin. Obviously this is what you want since you refuse to change. People tell you to just be yourself.. this is the ****tiest stupidist advice possible cause obviously "yourself" sucks.. so you need to adjust yourself and put your best self forward.. cause your normal everyday self causes the ladies to recoil in horror and run into anyones arms but yours. So you can continue to whine about not getting any girls and refusing to change or adapt to get them.. so there is really not much more we can say.. I could tell you the secret to picking up any woman.. but if you don't have the balls to change your attitude and outlook it wont matter cause even a solid gold 100% effective line or whatnot will crash and burn due to your pisspoor attitude. You don't wanna change.. fine.. suffer silently and stop making such drama here looking for attention.
Buckeye Candy Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Re-post in case you don't check your other thread: I was driving home and thought of this idea and I wanted to suggest it to you since it seems a constructive albeit corny social experiment. Go to a large store like Target and pick a random aisle to browse through. Pick up an item off the shelf and ask the nearest person (man or woman) if they think it would make a good gift for a co-worker or whomever. Try to make the conversation last as long as possible before saying thank you for your help. Eg: In housewares aisle pick up a bathroom scale and turn to the person nearest you and say,"Excuse me. Do you think my grandmother would like this for Christmas?" Say whatever is appropriate or inappropriate if you are feeling silly. Try to make the conversation last! Eg: In the DVD aisle pick up a copy of Hostel and turn to whoever nearest and say, "Excuse me. Do you think a seven year old would like this as a gift?" Repeat this in different aisles until you have spoken with at least a dozen different people. This is good time of year to do it since many shoppers are out and about. Be friendly, smile (maybe sheepishly) and say thank you. Why do this? Just to experiment outside of your comfort zone. Call it a crash course in social interaction. Do this and get back to me with detailed results and we'll go from there. Good luck.
Vertex Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Honestly I am starting to believe he is a troll. He's not even replying to a fair amount of the messages that get at the logic of it all. For a law dude, surely he would appreciate logic. Apparently not.
tkgirl Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Would you talk that way to someone who had cancer? Once again, you cannot contemplate what being in my situation is like, because it's UNFATHOMABLE for you to contemplate what years of celibacy is like or how it affects you. heh, maybe I would but I doubt even they would bitch and moan as much as you do... but the thing is, you don't have cancer (right?) and I assume you have full use of all your extremities, are able to wipe your own a$$ and all that good stuff. It makes me sick to hear you complain so much about everything when there are so many people with REAL problems out there... not made up like the ones in your head... what is it with all the beta crap anyways? to me it's just your excuse to act like a whiny little be-och.
gopher Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 yup, i made law review and got published and cited in casebooks and treatises and law review articles because I sit on my butt and do nothing. Really?? That surprises me because you give off zero aura of being successful at anything. Seriously, you come across as a guy who lives in his mom's basement, and it bitter because the barista at Starbuck's didn't smile at him. Here's a hint....chicks love successful, confident men. And your being a law student, or lawyer is something that women are attracted to, because of all the hard work that goes into it, and the accomplishments that accompany it. Why don't you play that up, or better yet....focus on being successful and confident in your career, and you'll draw women to you.
gopher Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 'Tis the way!! Thanks TBF ... And if Beta is a troll, he'd be smart to agree every once in a while with someone, instead of just complaining. If he's truly here for advice, he's already gotten a multitude of that.
donnamaybe Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Thanks TBF ... And if Beta is a troll, he'd be smart to agree every once in a while with someone, instead of just complaining. If he's truly here for advice, he's already gotten a multitude of that. Oh, he's agreed with a few posters - all men.
jerbear Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Oh, he's agreed with a few posters - all men. I disagree... He didn't like my idea of starting an betamale meetup group so alphafemales can track them down.
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