Ms. Joolie Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I would never date a guy that liked 'hurt me' sex..... make love, not war. lol Sooooo many likes/dislikes in sex. Strangling is just so wrong in my book.
jw90063 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 how do you know they are mentally ill? Who are you to judge them? That's what they like. Would you say a homosexual is mentally ill because he wants to have anal sex with another man? People have their likes. I know women that like being urinated on. Women want to be defecated on, lots of rape fantasies... No offense, but maybe your mentality is equivalent to these so called women have. I mean your ideas are questionable. Do you not see how that could be a red flag or an indication of an underlying issue? A rape fantasy is NOT normal in any way. Rape is not normal. And don't even bring homosexuality into this. That is not comparable. A friend of mine used to date this chick who had such bad daddy issues, that she asked him to shout "you're worthless, that's why I never paid attention to you!!!" while having sex with her. I'm not making this up. She left him for an abusive guy. A girl who wants to be called worthless and such things needs to just go check themselves to a psych ward. She left him for an abusive guy? That's not surprising.
GorillaTheater Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 A friend of mine used to date this chick who had such bad daddy issues, that she asked him to shout "you're worthless, that's why I never paid attention to you!!!" while having sex with her. I'm not making this up. She left him for an abusive guy. Your friend should chalk the end of that relationship up in the "victory" column. Absorb this: some things ain't worth getting laid for.
silic0ntoad Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Your friend should chalk the end of that relationship up in the "victory" column. Absorb this: some things ain't worth getting laid for. Agreed. Everyone has a different opinion on sex, so really, this topic is rather.... pointless.
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 No offense, but maybe your mentality is equivalent to these so called women have. I mean your ideas are questionable. Do you not see how that could be a red flag or an indication of an underlying issue? A rape fantasy is NOT normal in any way. Rape is not normal. And don't even bring homosexuality into this. That is not comparable. A girl who wants to be called worthless and such things needs to just go check themselves to a psych ward. She left him for an abusive guy? That's not surprising. That's why it's a fantasy, and not reality. Fantasizing about something isn't the same as actually wanting to do it. If a woman has a rape fantasy, she and the g uy agree that he'll hide some place, she'll never know where or when, and fufill the fantasy. There is an "escape word" she can shout if it's not a good time and she doesn't actually want to go through with it, otherwise it's a forcible sexual situation, but one that she contemplated happening with a consentual partner. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2372/is_1_45/ai_n24383385/ http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-11-29/people/what-s-behind-rape-fantasies/ http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/humannature/archive/2009/01/26/rape-fantasies-and-female-arousal.aspx
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 No offense, but maybe your mentality is equivalent to these so called women have. I mean your ideas are questionable. Do you not see how that could be a red flag or an indication of an underlying issue? A rape fantasy is NOT normal in any way. Rape is not normal. And don't even bring homosexuality into this. That is not comparable. A girl who wants to be called worthless and such things needs to just go check themselves to a psych ward. She left him for an abusive guy? That's not surprising. How is wanting to be called worthless any different than a woman wanting to be called a "dirt sl*t" during sex?
jw90063 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 That's why it's a fantasy, and not reality. Fantasizing about something isn't the same as actually wanting to do it. If a woman has a rape fantasy, she and the g uy agree that he'll hide some place, she'll never know where or when, and fufill the fantasy. There is an "escape word" she can shout if it's not a good time and she doesn't actually want to go through with it, otherwise it's a forcible sexual situation, but one that she contemplated happening with a consentual partner. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2372/is_1_45/ai_n24383385/ http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-11-29/people/what-s-behind-rape-fantasies/ http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/humannature/archive/2009/01/26/rape-fantasies-and-female-arousal.aspx So what if someone fantasizes about killing someone, is that normal? Who cares if its a fantasy. The question is why would that turn someone on to be raped? Rape is a terrible thing. As far as rape, I do not understand one bit, why fantasizing about being raped would turn a woman on. Sorry, that's just twisted, but I hope you have fun helping these pitiful women act the fantasy out.
cupidotheblogger Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I'm trying to picture how you hit someone in bed and get aroused by it. Scratched is a bit different. I think I would enjoy being hit in bed. Women like to be spanked.....maybe a little punch in the face while she's on top wouldn't hurt.....that's a big MAYBE! Nothing wrong with a little PLEASURE and PAIN !!
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 So what if someone fantasizes about killing someone, is that normal? Who cares if its a fantasy. The question is why would that turn someone on to be raped? Rape is a terrible thing. As far as rape, I do not understand one bit, why fantasizing about being raped would turn a woman on. Sorry, that's just twisted, but I hope you have fun helping these pitiful women act the fantasy out. Read the articles I posted, and do some research on rape fantasies, it is not uncommon in women. I've give you an example, because people are weird. Back in the 1960s In Israel, there was a trend in pornography that was nazi based. It would be nazis sexually abusing Jews, though I think it was mostly art or comics, not actual photographs. It was really popular, and in ISRAEL of all places.
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Women's+erotic+rape+fantasies:+an+evaluation+of+theory+and+research.-a0176374283 according to studies, between 37% - 57% of women have rape fantasies.
jw90063 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Women's+erotic+rape+fantasies:+an+evaluation+of+theory+and+research.-a0176374283 according to studies, between 37% - 57% of women have rape fantasies. Would explain why 57% or more are on medication of some sort.
silic0ntoad Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Women's+erotic+rape+fantasies:+an+evaluation+of+theory+and+research.-a0176374283 according to studies, between 37% - 57% of women have rape fantasies. Beta is right. It is a sizable chunk of the female population. And the only defence? Those women are crazy! Send them to the loony bin!
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 Would explain why 57% or more are on medication of some sort. I'm only the messenger. I'm the first person to admit that the majority of people are really messed up, and I wouldn't trust anyone other than my parents with my child (had I had one)...
GorillaTheater Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Beta is right. It is a sizable chunk of the female population. And the only defence? Those women are crazy! Send them to the loony bin! Not the only defense. There's a distinction between indulging a fantasy and wanting something that horrific to actually happen. Most fantasies are just that: fantasy.
cognac Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I remember one day play fighting with a girl I was just friend with and I was getting a little more rough than I should of I'll admit. She complained that I was being a little brute with her afterwards and got mad. But a week later she called me and said that secretly she was super turned on and if I had ripped off her clothes at that second we would've had intercourse in a very rough manner. LOL! Just a lesson I learned. Women like guys who are rough and overpower them, it's just nature.
silic0ntoad Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I remember one day play fighting with a girl I was just friend with and I was getting a little more rough than I should of I'll admit. She complained that I was being a little brute with her afterwards and got mad. But a week later she called me and said that secretly she was super turned on and if I had ripped off her clothes at that second we would've had intercourse in a very rough manner. LOL! Just a lesson I learned. Women like guys who are rough and overpower them, it's just nature. And you didn't take advantage of the situation by "play fighting" with her again? Epic fail.
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 I remember one day play fighting with a girl I was just friend with and I was getting a little more rough than I should of I'll admit. She complained that I was being a little brute with her afterwards and got mad. But a week later she called me and said that secretly she was super turned on and if I had ripped off her clothes at that second we would've had intercourse in a very rough manner. LOL! Just a lesson I learned. Women like guys who are rough and overpower them, it's just nature. Can't tell you how many times I have lost out by not being aggressive enough.
Ms. Joolie Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I do have a rape fantasy actually. I want rough sex. Sex with my ex was not rough, it was very intimate... very normal and, well, we made love. So I can say that I do have a fantasy about the man being overpowering during sex. But it's just a fantasy. sigh. In real life, I'd want him to be a little rough, but with my consent. lol. Not an actual rape, but a fake rape. 1
Angel1111 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Don't ask, take. Throw her around like a ragdoll. Don't ask what she wants, just do it, be enthusiastic, animalistic. I know some NGs who still don't believe you have to do this. They don't realize that women bumsen with guys who do this stuff, so it's expected and desired. How about just being who you are? You know, men and women are in different moods when they have sex. Maybe rough sex is nice sometimes but all the time would get old. Do what suits your mood and pay attention to your partner. To generalize women like this is just plain silly.
cognac Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Can't tell you how many times I have lost out by not being aggressive enough. My fear is going too far and actually hurting a woman, but sometimes I think they actually want that. Women are incredibly unstable and unpredictable so I suggest you tread carefully and slowly push the envelope. And you didn't take advantage of the situation by "play fighting" with her again? Epic fail.[/Quote] There's a really long story I won't even start to get into. Not to mention she has a boyfriend, and while I know women have no control of their emotions and instincts, I do. And as a moral person, I could never bang a taken woman, it's just not right and a huge disrespect to the poor sap who is with her.
mem11363 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 BM, Being dominant and violent are totally different things. Being rough and mean are totally different things. Being aggressive and taking control are fine. Ignoring what she wants/likes is not. And sane people have a safe word - you hear the safe word and you stop no questions asked. Don't ask, take. Throw her around like a ragdoll. Don't ask what she wants, just do it, be enthusiastic, animalistic. I know some NGs who still don't believe you have to do this. They don't realize that women bumsen with guys who do this stuff, so it's expected and desired.
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 BM, Being dominant and violent are totally different things. Being rough and mean are totally different things. Being aggressive and taking control are fine. Ignoring what she wants/likes is not. And sane people have a safe word - you hear the safe word and you stop no questions asked. Yes, i mentioned that. For the women who have rape fantasies, they pick a safe word that her boyfriend/husband will know means "stop" because shouting "no, stop, no" is part of the fantasy, hence a safe word that actually means no.
samspade Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 It's been my experience that most women want to be dominated and controlled in bed. Obviously you have to know each woman's comfort zone first. However, gentle, supplicating sex (including massive amounts of oral, and over-worrying about the female O) does not make the 'gina tingle - not the same way as holding her down, telling her you're going to F her hard, "choking" her (not violently), covering her mouth, calling her derogatory names, etc. Again: You must know her comfort zone and be wary not to overstep any boundaries. Many women are also reticent to ADMIT to wanting this type of treatment, because they feel (unfortunately) ashamed to admit that's naturally appealing but socially denigrating. This is especially true in our feminist-minded society - we forget that equality in the workplace or in civics does not mean we should be sexual "equals" in the bedroom. Of course, sometimes women (and men) like to "flip the script" in terms of dominance and submission. This is exciting in its novelty and fun to do once in a while, for me. Most of the time, however, it's best for the man to be the man - in control and pounding hard - and for the woman to submit and take it. You'll have great sexual experiences if you, as the man, assume the responsibility for this, because you'll shift the feeling of misplaced shame away from the woman after you've unleashed her inner s l v t. My $.02.
Author betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 It's been my experience that most women want to be dominated and controlled in bed. Obviously you have to know each woman's comfort zone first. However, gentle, supplicating sex (including massive amounts of oral, and over-worrying about the female O) does not make the 'gina tingle - not the same way as holding her down, telling her you're going to F her hard, "choking" her (not violently), covering her mouth, calling her derogatory names, etc. Again: You must know her comfort zone and be wary not to overstep any boundaries. Many women are also reticent to ADMIT to wanting this type of treatment, because they feel (unfortunately) ashamed to admit that's naturally appealing but socially denigrating. This is especially true in our feminist-minded society - we forget that equality in the workplace or in civics does not mean we should be sexual "equals" in the bedroom. Of course, sometimes women (and men) like to "flip the script" in terms of dominance and submission. This is exciting in its novelty and fun to do once in a while, for me. Most of the time, however, it's best for the man to be the man - in control and pounding hard - and for the woman to submit and take it. You'll have great sexual experiences if you, as the man, assume the responsibility for this, because you'll shift the feeling of misplaced shame away from the woman after you've unleashed her inner s l v t. My $.02. Ugh, thanks for reminding me. I guess it's for the best that women have no interest in me. I have no interest in doing that.
silic0ntoad Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 This thread is completely out of control.
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