stillafool Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Did you ever think that perhaps it isn't that women consciously seek what you would call an a&&hole type of guy? That women, like men, cannot help who they are attracted to, who they have chemistry with and who they are sexually attracted to. Just like when a guy sees a beautiful girl and she wants to get to know him also. He isn't going to not go out with her because he thinks that maybe this girl is a heartbreaker. No, he's going to go out with her, get to know her, sleep with her and then he may find out she's a heartbreaker; but by then it's too late because your heart is involved. It works the same way for women with men. These guys are hot and that is the first thing women see. Oh and trying to be a faux player never works because women can see that a mile away. Real players don't play that is who they are and you can tell the difference. They aren't proud of it and try to hide it. They don't call girls back because they really do have other things to do they aren't playing games. I like what the one poster said who suggested guys stop chasing women for a while and improve yourself and develop hobbies. Nothing is more attractive to a woman than a guy who is busy doing what he loves.
Stockalone Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Did you ever think that perhaps it isn't that women consciously seek what you would call an a&&hole type of guy? Is that question directed at me?
alphamale Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Please list all tips/advice on this thread for how to become the A-Hole of a woman's dreams. The "real man" she truly desires. The "Alpha male". start smoking, drink hard liquor to excess and act aloof. also make sure you're good looking and that u dress nice. being a great kisser never hurts
skydiveaddict Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 **** dude, i dont know anymore you make some really good points believe me i'm not a doormat for anyone. i dont come across as needy or smothering. in fact the girls i have dated in the past have said " why dont you call me more often, why dont we see each other more?" it just seems like when i find a girl i really like it never works out.
carhill Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Nothing is more attractive to a woman than a guy who is busy doing what he loves. If he's hot and a player I remember, years ago, quietly going about my business of 'doing what I loved' and emulating the demeanor and style of one the icons of that passion. I watched the loud and brash styles of others and wondered about what truly was important in life, and perhaps less so about what was attractive to women. Alas, but for timing, I had it right, it would seem, but was out of time, meaning out of sync with that age demographic and their desires and attractions. A generation later, it is much easier to see the women still stuck in that time and place and see them with better eyes; eyes which, like those departed, see the humanity and value in being a gentleman. The women, few or many, who value that, will embrace it. The others, go with god to whatever destiny awaits.
v g Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 **** dude, i dont know anymore you make some really good points believe me i'm not a doormat for anyone. i dont come across as needy or smothering. in fact the girls i have dated in the past have said " why dont you call me more often, why dont we see each other more?" it just seems like when i find a girl i really like it never works out. skydiveaddict, congratulations, IMO you are in the exact same boat as pretty much every single person that doesn't want to be single.
alphamale Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 If he's hot and a player indeed, good looks are the #1 credential in being an arsehole. you will automatically treat women like crap cause you know the supply of other women is plentiful. each woman will not be worth that much to you in the larger scheme of things. thats how you become an arsehole and get lots of chicks.
carhill Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Yeah, when I meet a really attractive guy who's a gentleman (and I have), I like to get closer to him and figure out exactly which turnip truck he fell off of, then sue the turnip grower On my way back from Singapore, I met a pilot in the hotel shuttle in Boston and got to chatting with him. Super attractive guy, nearly my age, but looked a lot younger. Real gentleman. Tipped the driver well I watched him interacting with women. Shy almost; very quiet, even a bit insecure. He seemed single (had no ring on) so that surprised me a bit. Remembered some stuff I told him about my trip from the night before when we were on the shuttle to BOS the next morning, so sharp too. Go figure.I would've guessed he was a player but was wrong. No gaydar blips either. I guess, with every rule there's some exceptions
skydiveaddict Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 i gues so i just haven't met any exceptions yet
GoodOnPaper Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Did you ever think that perhaps it isn't that women consciously seek what you would call an a&&hole type of guy? That women, like men, cannot help who they are attracted to, who they have chemistry with and who they are sexually attracted to. Just like when a guy sees a beautiful girl and she wants to get to know him also. He isn't going to not go out with her because he thinks that maybe this girl is a heartbreaker. No, he's going to go out with her, get to know her, sleep with her and then he may find out she's a heartbreaker; but by then it's too late because your heart is involved. It works the same way for women with men. These guys are hot and that is the first thing women see. So what are those of us guys who are not-so-hot good for? Sloppy seconds? Backups for when women finally want a "relationship guy"? How unfortunate. I think a lot of us feel we have more to offer than that. It's too bad that everything seems to hinge on this power of initial attraction that is so elusive for those of us that otherwise have so many things going for us in life.
StalledGirl Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 I don't understand why so many men online are bitter. If women always go for alpha males , why aren't most men alpha males? Terms like "alpha males" are stupid anyway. I hate muscles and macho types who are braindead. I prefer quality in a man.
alphamale Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Terms like "alpha males" are stupid anyway. i beg to disagree
skydiveaddict Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 i'm not bitter , just frustrated and a littie confused i have a lot more things going on in my life than this, it's just that i started reading this thread last night and i became interested in what others had to say about it
chrissy001 Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 And yes, you just dumped a jerk. Probably because you just spotted an even bigger jerk. Don't think you need advice...seems like you're already there..... If you're serious, don't go there...only trash will come your way.
StalledGirl Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 i beg to disagree Well , I don't and that is what matters. The men I like are usually intelligent and wouldn't use such reductive phrases. Men on forums seem to be a different species for some reason.
StalledGirl Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 They wouldn't allow me to edit as 260 mins had passed (wow!) so... Well , I don't and that is what matters. The men I like are usually intelligent and wouldn't use such reductive phrases. Men on forums seem to be a different species for some reason and loveshack has changed since the first time I flund it a couple of years ago. The more rules dating is supposed to have , the worse we seem to be. If women don't like you maybe it's because you keep choosing women who aren't you type. Women learn from a young age what type of man would/wouldn't find her attractive. Wny can't men accept it and move on?
carhill Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Oh, you can't edit once someone else has posted. Sorry about that... Acceptance is a good suggestion and I endorse it That said, it is in human nature to struggle and to revel in conflict. History is doomed to be repeated, I'm afraid.
Knossos Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Becoming an alpha male doesn't mean becoming an arsehole. It means becoming the best man you can be; developing yourself as an individual mentally and physically (see which word I put first? Not all of us are into buff pretty boys) is the key to evolving into that vaunted superior being. Or, you could just be content as a beta male, and still be a good man with values and intelligence. Is it really necessary to be the first in everything? Unless you're fixated on a sole quest to attain the alpha female, being among the highest echelon in the dating game doesn't mean a damned thing in life. You'll get a trophy wife, trophy kids, and most likely a Christmas newsletter noteworthy lifestyle. If that's your true desire, then go and may the road rise with you. But spend some time pondering just why in the hell you need to have only the best, why you have to be part of the best.
D-Jam Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Here's the easy solution... Become line Brett Broski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JMOh-cul6M
StalledGirl Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Oh, you can't edit once someone else has posted. Sorry about that... Acceptance is a good suggestion and I endorse it That said, it is in human nature to struggle and to revel in conflict. History is doomed to be repeated, I'm afraid. You make life sound like one long S&M journey! Actually , that sums up my life so far:eek:
AD1980 Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Did you ever think that perhaps it isn't that women consciously seek what you would call an a&&hole type of guy? That women, like men, cannot help who they are attracted to, who they have chemistry with and who they are sexually attracted to. Just like when a guy sees a beautiful girl and she wants to get to know him also. He isn't going to not go out with her because he thinks that maybe this girl is a heartbreaker. No, he's going to go out with her, get to know her, sleep with her and then he may find out she's a heartbreaker; but by then it's too late because your heart is involved. It works the same way for women with men. These guys are hot and that is the first thing women see. Oh and trying to be a faux player never works because women can see that a mile away. Real players don't play that is who they are and you can tell the difference. They aren't proud of it and try to hide it. They don't call girls back because they really do have other things to do they aren't playing games. I like what the one poster said who suggested guys stop chasing women for a while and improve yourself and develop hobbies. Nothing is more attractive to a woman than a guy who is busy doing what he loves. I agree msot women dont neccesarily want aholes its just that if a man is good looking a women will put up with it because of the physical attraction Some Men think women are these innocent naive creatures getitng taken advantage of when theyre no different then men they want someobdy hot first and hope hes not an ahole..
carhill Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 You make life sound like one long S&M journey! LOL, indeed Interesting how perceptions work. Very topical. BTW, where did the OP go?
Lovelybird Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 I've heard this, in a dating world or coupling process, the couples' character are on same level, that means Your characters = the characters of the loved ones you choose. So, that means, the more you complain about your previous lovers, the more you are complaining about yourself At least, as Dr. Henry says, you have to admit your picker is broken
Rudderless Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Well , I don't and that is what matters. The men I like are usually intelligent and wouldn't use such reductive phrases. Men on forums seem to be a different species for some reason. Quality response
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