Author bbasher75 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share Posted December 18, 2009 Posting here is a distraction from actually fixing his problem. What pisses me off is he (allegedly) gets all these dates, and then screws them up once he is face to face across a dinner table with them. I get dates easy, I just screw them up once I go on them. Why would I lie about that? LOL. If I was going to lie, I'd say I get laid left and right and how much of a stud I am. I never really get to the dinner table. Have a drink with them, and then magically after we're done I put them under the "friends" spell and that's it. What's your PM? Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 basher: i agree completey with you. i too am cursed with "nice guy syndrome" . I just recently got the "lets just be friends" line as well. i've had it up to my eyeballs having people tell me to "just be youself". it doesn't work, period! so from now on i'm gonna treat every girl i meet like sh.. like you, i'm not sure how to do it, but i'm gonna give it a try, it can't be that tough just to act like an a..hole around women. good luck dude Link to post Share on other sites
Author bbasher75 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share Posted December 18, 2009 I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this! He avoids advice and stalks my posts ;-) You follow me around and post on all my threads and I stalk you? I hope you're kidding, right? You should seek some mental help. Link to post Share on other sites
soconfusing Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 You want to be good at being an a-hole that women love? Well, I guess in a nutshell the only reason women "love" this kind of guy is he presents a challenge. He doesn't need her and she figures she'll be the one to get him to fall for her. Funny thing is if you date her long enough, you may find yourself falling for her anyway and then you'll eventually drop the a-hole act. And then she'll get bored with you and you're back in the friend zone (if that). But, if you're only looking at the short run of things, then don't call her very often. Try once every week or two. String her along. Call her "baby", "hun", "sweetie", etc very early on. Tell her how you had such a blast with her then don't call her or text her for a while. Leave her in complete mystery. If she has no sense of self preservation, she'll be all over you. But, if she's mentally, uh, healthy, she may realize that you're no good for her and move on. Link to post Share on other sites
Boundary Problem Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 You want to be good at being an a-hole that women love? Well, I guess in a nutshell the only reason women "love" this kind of guy is he presents a challenge. He doesn't need her and she figures she'll be the one to get him to fall for her. Funny thing is if you date her long enough, you may find yourself falling for her anyway and then you'll eventually drop the a-hole act. And then she'll get bored with you and you're back in the friend zone (if that). But, if you're only looking at the short run of things, then don't call her very often. Try once every week or two. String her along. Call her "baby", "hun", "sweetie", etc very early on. Tell her how you had such a blast with her then don't call her or text her for a while. Leave her in complete mystery. If she has no sense of self preservation, she'll be all over you. But, if she's mentally, uh, healthy, she may realize that you're no good for her and move on. We women love the complexity, not the hurtfulness. Link to post Share on other sites
betamanlet Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 We women love the complexity, not the hurtfulness. drama :snowman: Link to post Share on other sites
bac Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 go amazon.com and buy Clink "the laid guide" and the other book " how to get the most beautiful women in bed". Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 go amazon.com and buy Clink "the laid guide" and the other book " how to get the most beautiful women in bed". That's his problem. He can't get beautiful women. He needs to start settling for what he can get. Link to post Share on other sites
woopster638 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 That's his problem. He can't get beautiful women. He needs to start settling for what he can get. During desperate times, it's acceptable to drop ones standards Link to post Share on other sites
D-Jam Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Ok...here's how: 1) Be good looking enough to make women desire you. 2) Be wealthy enough so women chase you thinking you're a prize to be won. 3) Only go after women with low self-esteem. Lie your brains off to them and make them think they are going to beat the odds and end up with some gorgeous/wealthy guy who wants to commit (rather than sleep around). 4) Dump them after you get what you want...even laugh in their faces and call them whores/idiots. Belittle them into thinking that dog poo on the ground is more valued in this world than they are. 5) Be amazing in bed. Even if you're a total jerk, if you can please women in bed then they'll fight like crazy to keep you somehow. 6) Realize most of the women you'll get into bed are women you won't respect or even like. You'll find yourself alone still...because now you're basically getting with skanky eye candy that have little to nothing to offer a guy...and you'll wonder why you can't get the hot looking brainy/successful female. 7) Repeat the cycles over and over until you get fed up and decide either to be alone in life, or you make a girl pregnant and sign your life to her (or run out on them), or you get fed up with every woman you meet being only good for sex and nothing more. Yeah...the *********s get laid and get attention...but they don't end up in life with anything any normal man would want. Even the guys who manage to get those women into marriage didn't "win" in life...they end up divorced later. Realize that if a woman needs to be treated badly to find a guy attractive, then she's not worth having. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 This must mean that not many women are worth having. The women who actually respond well to being treated well are indeed a rare gem. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 i appreciate your opinions but it doesnt seem to work that way for me. i cant count the number of women who have said to me "i wish i could meet a sweet sensitive guy who really cares about me". when in reality thats not what they want @ all. they want an a..hole who treats them like sh.t so that's what i'm gonna do. i guess that's the meaning of "true love" lmfao! i bet if you ask basher he'll agree w/ me Link to post Share on other sites
boogieboy Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 i appreciate your opinions but it doesnt seem to work that way for me. i cant count the number of women who have said to me "i wish i could meet a sweet sensitive guy who really cares about me". when in reality thats not what they want @ all. they want an a..hole who treats them like sh.t so that's what i'm gonna do. i guess that's the meaning of "true love" lmfao! i bet if you ask basher he'll agree w/ me Basher is just as clueless as you are. when women say "i wish i could meet a sweet sensitive guy who really cares about me" they only mean sweet and sensitive some of the time, and asertive and manly the rest of the time. SOme jerk traits are mistaken for assertive....aw forget it, I just lost interest in this explanation. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Jam Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 This must mean that not many women are worth having. The women who actually respond well to being treated well are indeed a rare gem. Loads of "girls" out there, but not a lot of "women". Besides, men and women have the same problem. Anyone the majority of the genders deems as "hot" generally doesn't have the "rest". So the hot guy will be commitment-phobic and/or a playa or jerk. The hot woman will be messed up in some way and/or craves men who treat her like crap...despite how much she claims to want a nice guy. It's almost like that crazy/hot scale in How I Met Your Mother. Only it's "looks" on one side and "screwed up" or "jerk" on the other axis...the more one goes up so does the other. Now I'm being totally sarcastic here. I did find a very pretty girl with a heart of gold. They do exist. The thing men have to realize is that it's not so much about the number of women you get...but how many quality women you get. I see "alpha males" speak constantly of how "all women are ****ed up" or how "all women are whores" or "there's no such thing as a good woman who's hot" or even the usual "I'll never marry! Screw that! Women are only good for one thing." It more tells me they only continue to pursue one path and one type of woman...but refuse to accept that they are why they can't bring good women to their fold. It's the same with women who go from one jerk to the next. Take your time...live your life for YOU...and be patient. Eventually you see past the garbage and find those few good ones. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Jam Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 i appreciate your opinions but it doesnt seem to work that way for me. i cant count the number of women who have said to me "i wish i could meet a sweet sensitive guy who really cares about me". when in reality thats not what they want @ all. they want an a..hole who treats them like sh.t so that's what i'm gonna do. i guess that's the meaning of "true love" lmfao! i bet if you ask basher he'll agree w/ me You and Basher need to learn two things... 1) Don't patronize or comfort women like that. I'll get harsh on them. I'll tell them there's loads of good men out there, but they don't come packaged as Jersey meathead guidos or as uber-hot wealthy yuppies. I'll tell them it's their own fault they go from one jerk to the next and not hand them one ounce of sympathy if this is a repeated thing. 2) Stop seeing value in them. See them in the same vain you would see the 300-lb bald butch woman. I don't care how hot they are and how much you believe they could be a wonderful GF if she could see past her lust for bad boys/jerks/playas. She's obviously shown you how messed up she is and why she's not worth your time or energy. Now I've had women tell me I come off in this "you dated bad boys, so go **** yourself!" tone. I can understand if she got tricked by a guy once, but dumped him immediately when his true colors came out. I can understand if she had a few bad experiences. What I don't understand nor sympathize or even respect are the women who go from one jerk to the next...when the things they really want in a man ONLY come from the jerks, so she's chasing a fantasy of a "nice jerk" that will never happen. Worse are the ones who stay with these terrible guys and endure months or years of abuse and neglect, giving him 1000 chances to do better while she bitches to everyone how he treats her bad and such...but she won't dump him. You guys need to stop seeing value in those women. Period. I'll bet most of the women on this board have way more dating/relationship value over the flakes you're mostly meeting. Find those types of women in your neck of the woods. They do exist, but they don't come packaged in skinny jeans and fake tits. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 djam: first, i didn't mean to say that i was speaking on basher's behalf. those are good points you made but i really dont patronize the women i meet. i'm not the needy sort who smothers the women i meet w/affection. far from it. i'm just telling you that what women say they want & what they really want are two completely different things Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 LOL, I understand where you are coming from....but you will mostlikely become a horrible jerk, or horrible at being a jerk...I tried to be a "B" and it didn't work....bought a book on it and everything. I like being a nice person and God will find me a good man that will appreciate the time He has spent on me...in the meantime I will be without a mate.... Could you be looking in all of the wrong places? What seems to be the common denominator of this run of bad women? I just dumped a "jerk" who was treating me bad....I've changed my ways, so why not try changing yours and quit settling for lousy women...only go for the best because YOU ARE WORTH IT pureinheart, it's amazing see you again Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Sounds like you just jump from one extreme to another. when you were a nice guy, probably there were lots of times you weren't being honest with yourself and those women. that is too nice Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I think turning to the dark side is not something a man can fake. He has to reach a point in his life where he is so fed with women that he simply stops caring about them anymore. I reach that point after my divorce and it worked great because it was real. I wasn't trying to shed my nice guy image because I was simply not a nice guy anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 no lovely bird i dont jump from one extreme to the other. i've been a "nice guy" my whole life. now i'm gonna be an a..hole i'm only jumping this once Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I think it is a good thing if one trys to be honest, even what he does isn't ideal good, but honest is a good thing and an attractive quality Trying to be more of yourself is a good start. and that is my goal also now. When I cannot be selfless, then I won't pretend to be no matter what I SHOULD do. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 woggle, i'm sorry for what you went through i watched my best friend go through a divorce worst pain i've ever seen anyone take on. but beleive me i'm not faking it. being an a..hole is where i'm at Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 woggle, i'm sorry for what you went through i watched my best friend go through a divorce worst pain i've ever seen anyone take on. but beleive me i'm not faking it. being an a..hole is where i'm at Be careful though because if you do find a woman who truly is worth the nice guy treatment it is very difficult trying to bring the nice guy back out. read some of my recent posts and it will show you that. It is really ironic that once I decided I was fed up with woman is when I finally met a woman that is worth it and I have a few friends who told me the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 lovelybird, perhaps you're right not only am i not being selfless, i'm probably being selfish. but i've just f..king had enough Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 dont worry woggle, the nice guy in me is forever gone Link to post Share on other sites
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