phineas Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Translation: You have to play games with a woman if you want her to be interested in you. Yes & no. Your also playing games with yourself. If you can convince yourself into believing you don't need a woman to be happy then are you really playing games with a woman by making her give you a reason to spend your time with her or have you actually bettered yourself as a person? yes, you want to get laid. But the simple fact is unless you are good looking with money you can't be that guy who picks up women all the time. You have to work at it.
carhill Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I can't speak to why you have met this type of woman but for myself I can say that at times it's hard to be left alone to heal and learn. Here's a good example of a current thread outlining that difficulty: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t214026/
Sharon1961 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Here's a good example of a current thread outlining that difficulty: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t214026/ From skimming her long entry it sounds like she has inappropriate boundaries. That's been my problem.
stillafool Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 The ones IRL I call aholes have been that to me personally, or in business. I call em like I see em. They might charm the pants or dress off a woman, but they're still scum of the earth deadbeats to me and, not surprisingly, to other business colleagues as well. Charm doesn't work on me, sorry to say. Well it's different if you know them personally and have a reason to dislike them? I'm talking about some guys who seem to dislike these men "on sight" just because women flock to them. They seem to automatically assume these guys are *********s because women love them. What's even worse is while they are complaining about how horrible these men are they are also scheming to be more like them so they themselves will get more women.
carhill Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 From skimming her long entry it sounds like she has inappropriate boundaries. That's been my problem. Here's an idea. Think of men as panhandlers. I bet you'll be alone as long as you need.
carhill Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I'm talking about some guys who seem to dislike these men "on sight" just because women flock to them. Understand. Yeah, to me, that would be unhealthy. Don't know the guy. Don't care. The way I see it is people are with who they're with, whether that is one guy with 10 women or the reverse. That's their path. It doesn't impact me unless they start mucking around with my path
stillafool Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 More likely they get the whole bad boys and ******* thing from listening to women who put them in the friendzone complain about how big of an ******* all the guys they are dating are. Then when they make a move they get rejected with "you're a nice guy but..." They get rejected when they are nice and then notice those same women seem to always have the ******* boyfriend. Those guys don't realize women are trying to reject them in a nice way when they lay down the you are a nice guy bit and it has nothing to do with why they are getting rejected. It's all about attraction. Just because that woman isn't attracted to them in that way doesn't mean all women will feel that way about them. The next woman they approach may consider him to be her Prince. BTW guys, if you are talking to a woman who continues to talk about how her ex was an *********, move on right away because she is not over her ex and you are wasting your time. Also, lighten up and don't act bitter. In otherwords, be fun. Girls just wanna have fun!
phineas Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Well it's different if you know them personally and have a reason to dislike them? I'm talking about some guys who seem to dislike these men "on sight" just because women flock to them. They seem to automatically assume these guys are *********s because women love them. What's even worse is while they are complaining about how horrible these men are they are also scheming to be more like them so they themselves will get more women. hmm, i've always dismissed women like that. If an a-hole gets them hot & bothered then how is that the a-holes fault? He's an a-hole. It's the woman drawn to him that's got the issues. Who wants that? it's probably why I didn't hunt down & pummel the a-hole banging my wife. If it wasn't him it would of just been another a-hole. My wife is the defective one. It took me a long time to realize this & stop chasing after women drawn to a-holes. too bad I married one. Oh well.
Sharon1961 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Further, with a stranger, how do you know where they are? Absent clear honest communication, they could have been living alone for years, not in a relationship, or they could be full of semen from an ex the night before. How do you know? Carhill, maybe you should talk out what it is that's made you so angry?
threebyfate Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Men who "successfully" turn into A-holes, were always A-holes who expressed their inner A-hole in different, more passive-aggressive ways.
sumdude Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Men who "successfully" turn into A-holes, were always A-holes who expressed their inner A-hole in different, more passive-aggressive ways. Inner A-hole... sounds creepy.
carhill Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Carhill, maybe you should talk out what it is that's made you so angry? Already have. Over a year of MC. I'm not angry. Note lack of angry emoticon, something I rarely use. I'm inquiring to learn more. I'm making use of alone, non-dating time while awaiting divorce to be final to learn. Hopefully the journey is enlightening to someone other than myself
threebyfate Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Inner A-hole... sounds creepy. Exactly!!!
jw90063 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 After my latest "lets be friends" incident I've decided enough is enough. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I've decided to dedicate myself to becoming a jerk, an A-Hole. OK I need advice here from any A-Hole reading this. What is it you do that gets you layed and kept out of the "friend-zone"? Please list all tips/advice on this thread for how to become the A-Hole of a woman's dreams. The "real man" she truly desires. The "Alpha male". And also list things NOT to do with women that would make them see you as the "Beta male". I want DETAILS. I wanna know what to say, how poorly to treat them, etc. I'm sick of being the nice guy who gets nothing but spit on. Time for me to do some spitting of my own. LOL......people are actually buying this thread. I thought you already seemed like an A-hole from your other threads. What's the problem? I think you are covering being an A-hole as well as a troll very, very well.
reservoirdog1 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I've decided to dedicate myself to becoming a jerk, an A-Hole. OK I need advice here from any A-Hole reading this. What is it you do that gets you layed and kept out of the "friend-zone"? "Treat her like shyt, and tell her you love her." Good luck.
boogieboy Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 LOL......people are actually buying this thread. I thought you already seemed like an A-hole from your other threads. What's the problem? I think you are covering being an A-hole as well as a troll very, very well. He's no troll, hes just clueless. Every suggestion that is given to him, he finds a reason why he CANT do it. He doesnt want to succeed. He doesnt want to do work to improve his problems. BBasher, when youre ready to do the work to get what you want and change your ways, PM me.
SweetyBear Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Can you be strong and decisive, yet nice? Why do you think you must be a jerk to attract women? Maybe the kind of women you're trying to attract are the wrong ones. I was seriously messed up and I messed up a relationship with a really good man. Strangely enough, it was because I had no idea how to act or to be in a healthy relationship with a nice, stable, honest, loyal, wonderful man. He just wanted to love me and take care of me and it was a really hard concept around which to wrap my mind. Maybe some of the girls you're trying to be in a relationship with just don't know how to do normal and nice? Doesn't that mean they should change, not you? Thank goodness I came to my senses and also thank goodness my boyfriend took me back. Of course, he did wait six months to make really sure that he was really what I wanted before investing himself again. Best lesson I've ever learned, although at the time, there were days I thought I was going to die of a broken heart and it was worse because I had done it to myself. Anyway, therapy and all that and a patient nice guy who really loves me and I am happy to call myself "recovered" from my previous bad-boy addiction.
jw90063 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 He's no troll, hes just clueless. Every suggestion that is given to him, he finds a reason why he CANT do it. He doesnt want to succeed. He doesnt want to do work to improve his problems. BBasher, when youre ready to do the work to get what you want and change your ways, PM me. Yes, he needs a reason to keep posting, so he ignores all the advice.
boogieboy Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Yes, he needs a reason to keep posting, so he ignores all the advice. Posting here is a distraction from actually fixing his problem. What pisses me off is he (allegedly) gets all these dates, and then screws them up once he is face to face across a dinner table with them.
RedDevil66 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 LOL......people are actually buying this thread. I thought you already seemed like an A-hole from your other threads. What's the problem? I think you are covering being an A-hole as well as a troll very, very well. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this! He avoids advice and stalks my posts ;-)
AD1980 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) Being an ahole only works if youre really good looking Its not that women necasarily prefer ahoels theyll just put up with it if hes really good looking.. Edited December 18, 2009 by AD1980
betamanlet Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Being an ahole only works if youre really good looking Its not that women necasarily prefer ahoels theyll just put up with it if hes really good looking.. And there are tons of men that will put up with spoiled brat, completely b*tchy women simply because they are hot.
AD1980 Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 And there are tons of men that will put up with spoiled brat, completely b*tchy women simply because they are hot. Of course.. Physical atraction plays a huge part in relatoinships and the hotter the person the more the person theyre with will put up with them being a not so great person.. They dont really desire the ahoel trait of the person they are just so attracted to the person physically and afraid they cant do better that theyre scared to leave
samspade Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 After my latest "lets be friends" incident I've decided enough is enough. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I've decided to dedicate myself to becoming a jerk, an A-Hole. OK I need advice here from any A-Hole reading this. What is it you do that gets you layed and kept out of the "friend-zone"? Please list all tips/advice on this thread for how to become the A-Hole of a woman's dreams. The "real man" she truly desires. The "Alpha male". And also list things NOT to do with women that would make them see you as the "Beta male". I want DETAILS. I wanna know what to say, how poorly to treat them, etc. I'm sick of being the nice guy who gets nothing but spit on. Time for me to do some spitting of my own. First, get off this site. You will receive too much information from people like you. Beta males are like crabs in a barrel - if you try to cilmb out, they will reach up and pull you back in. Google the following: Sosuave; Roissy in DC. You have much work to do, but your first step is to get away from the noise of this website, which is just a lot of people complaining and nobody taking the steps to improve.
boogieboy Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 "Hi, I have no control over my attitudes or life, believing that the entire other gender has to change, so my life is easier. Why doesn't this work? Why can't I get a date?" I had to resort to steal posts from other threads.
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