Spark1111 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 ...finally apologizes to Elin. She came forward because tabloids were lumping her in with the porn-stars and party girls, and as a single mom, she and her son are now subjected to ridicule. She had a six-month PA with him, but claims to have ended it when she saw pictures of he and his wife and his new baby. Also, she'd wake up and find him texting, asserting he had to answer his emails, and realized she was NOT his only OW. She also claims he continued to pursue her for 2 years! She says she never received a dime from him. She is sorry and cannot imagine what Elin is going through. She also had to apologize to her son and her family, as they are now being subjected to public scorn. Jeez, why couldn't the OW in my situation take a lesson from Cori Rist?
Samantha0905 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 I saw this on the Today Show and actually felt great compassion for her. she seemed sincere and like a nice person. It's a sad situation. I feel badly for him. He obviously has a problem.
RedDevil66 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 This is how I felt when I had my affair. I talked to the wife of the man I was cheating with. I was so horrified with what I did and how I hurt a whole bunch of people I explained my actions to the wife and told her I was hurt by my ex cheating and I stopped caring about my life and didn't care about others lives. It was a hard time. It was 10 yrs ago and I learned so much from it, But I am the only one who did since he still cheats and his wife still stays. I hope Tiger's wife leaves...........life is hard enough than to live in that world of mistrust!
Author Spark1111 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Posted December 15, 2009 On the OW/Om forum, Lizzie started a post and she is being bashed over there as one more golddigger. But I did not perceive her that way after watching the interview. She seems truly remorseful, and is now in a sh**storm of vindictive attitudes. She also seemed to correctly assess the situation with Tiger and ended it. Hey, he is one of the most photographed sports celebrities in the world, and Elin appears to look at him in many of the photos as if she truly loved him. I give Cori Rist credit for coming to her own conclusions about their relationship, and taking an ethical stance.
Author Spark1111 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Posted December 15, 2009 This is how I felt when I had my affair. I talked to the wife of the man I was cheating with. I was so horrified with what I did and how I hurt a whole bunch of people I explained my actions to the wife and told her I was hurt by my ex cheating and I stopped caring about my life and didn't care about others lives. It was a hard time. It was 10 yrs ago and I learned so much from it, But I am the only one who did since he still cheats and his wife still stays. I hope Tiger's wife leaves...........life is hard enough than to live in that world of mistrust! Red Devil, you may be the exception to the rule. Hats off to you for the courage it must have taken to do that. Based on what I read here, so many do not. I spent two years of my life assuming my husband's OW was like me, and must have felt ashamed, embarrassed, hurt.....something about me after DDay. Jeez, nothing could have been further from the truth.
Blindsidedagainalive Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 She NEW what she was doing. He is young, wealthy, fit....and not ugly. The FIRST conversation they had, I doubt he was going into the old "I am so unhappy at home bit....that comes later". It was flirtation and number exchanges. If on the FIRST conversation he said "OMG, I am so unhappy at home it would not have gone further". She was looking for a good time with a wealthy celebrity. All of that emotional **** ....WHICH I TRULY BELIEVE HE SAID...came AFTER her intention to sleep with him. The bull**** that the predator says later......is intended to make the OW not feel like a whore. It's amazing how many people fall for it. But it doesn't matter...it's just affair justification. She is doing damage control. Sure. she is sorry. Sorry for what a jackass she looks like now. If she REALLY cared about the wife's feelings, she wouldn't have been ****ing her husband. OH....now she's sorry.
whichwayisup Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 She had a six-month PA with him, but claims to have ended it when she saw pictures of he and his wife and his new baby. Yes, damage control is what she's doing.. Uhh, hello..Tiger has TWO kids, did this OW not know that already? She didn't end it and come clean until the rest were coming out of the wood work. Maybe I'm being too harsh here, but it seems like someone want their 2 minutes of fame. I'm sure she feels awful and now has a reputation, but she knew he was married going in and famous to boot. I doubt ANY of those OW claimed, I had no idea he was married with kids.. Tiger is a complete idiot, and now he certainly is paying a high price for his mistakes. It's sad because the fallout isn't just about him now, it's affected alot of people, not just his wife, kids, extended family..But possibly certain charities losing out on $$ because now sponsors are pulling the plug on him. Let's hope this guy gets the help he needs, some serious therapy!
whichwayisup Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 I haven't seen the video of this, but did she talk to Tiger's wife before going on air? Or was the apology just public?
eeyore1981 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 She NEW what she was doing. He is young, wealthy, fit....and not ugly. The FIRST conversation they had, I doubt he was going into the old "I am so unhappy at home bit....that comes later". It was flirtation and number exchanges. If on the FIRST conversation he said "OMG, I am so unhappy at home it would not have gone further". She was looking for a good time with a wealthy celebrity. All of that emotional **** ....WHICH I TRULY BELIEVE HE SAID...came AFTER her intention to sleep with him. The bull**** that the predator says later......is intended to make the OW not feel like a whore. It's amazing how many people fall for it. But it doesn't matter...it's just affair justification. She is doing damage control. Sure. she is sorry. Sorry for what a jackass she looks like now. If she REALLY cared about the wife's feelings, she wouldn't have been ****ing her husband. OH....now she's sorry. Yep, I agree. There is nothing classy or good-intentioned about sleeping with a MM. Now she has come forward to show the world she is better than the porn actresses and the hookers? I don't see how, as this is about sleeping with a MM, and she slept with him just like the porn actresses and the hookers did.
Samantha0905 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 We all screw up and she understands what she did was wrong. She stopped the affair six months into it and he has continued to contact her for the two years following, to no avail. I think she understood what she did was wrong. You can't make it go away after the fact and, of course, she is doing damage control for her own life -- son, parents, grandparents. I don't blame her. It was a brave thing to come out like that in the national media. And yes, he needs professional help.
Blindsidedagainalive Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Hi Sam, I have to hit you hard here. "We all screw up and she understands what she did was wrong" That is SUCH a minimization. Yes, we all make mistakes. No, we all don't make mistakes of ****ing a married man, a celebrity nonetheless. Would you say 'we all make mistakes' to the man who snapped and killed his wife when he discovered her cheating? The man who was NEVER violent before. Allways a good husband...and for ONE minute snapped. I doubt you would......you can say you would for this discussion point. She on the other hand DID not SNAP under extreme stress for a minute. SHE consciously and willing ****ed TIGER for 6 months. He interview was NOT brave....it was damage control. She wanted to convince everyone that she was special, deceived, and NOT like the WHORES......she is special....right. She met him at a club...trolling for men. Sure, this was a lark, she's not a party girl. Sure, most stay at home moms are out at posh clubs hooking up with celebrities. I can see how you might be influenced to get involved with a cheating husband ....you buy into bull**** so easily. You look into the emotion of what the woman was saying...not the FACTS.
carhill Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 This seems to be one of those life moments when, if one talks, one loses. Probably better to just keep one's counsel and let things shake out. Sometimes, 'no comment' is the best comment.
Samantha0905 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 So, you do not believe in redemption? She's paying the price. She definitely seemed to have a lot of remorse and a lot of pain due to her actions. It's not minimization. You can't change the past and I don't believe in holding on to it other than learning from it. A betrayed person can choose to learn from an affair in their marriage by either making a concerted effort to fix the marriage or by walking away if they feel like they cannot forgive their spouse. An OW or OM and the betraying spouse can learn from their mistakes by admitting and knowing their acts were wrong and moving forward with the intent of not committing the act again. She acknowledged what she did was wrong and appeared to be remorseful for her acts. As it stands in the current legal environment, the punishment for murdering someone is different from the punishment for adultery. So, I think the man who murdered his wife should go to jail. I think the woman who committed adultery should not. I don't think it's a valid comparison. As far as her being at a party or a bar and being a stay at home mom -- she's not Mother Theresa and she certainly should be able to go out if she so desires. She should have turned him down -- which she acknowledged -- she did not. A poor choice. A mistake. A sin. A grievous decision as far as the effect on Tiger's family is concerned. Etc. It's something she did wrong in her past. She admitted this. And as I said, I do not think there's anything wrong with her doing damage control at this point. That's what his post was on his website apologizing to his fans. Damage control.
Samantha0905 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 This seems to be one of those life moments when, if one talks, one loses. Probably better to just keep one's counsel and let things shake out. Sometimes, 'no comment' is the best comment. That's definitely the best approach for Tiger right now. I think he's doing that for the most part.
Samantha0905 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 An OW or OM and the betraying spouse can learn from their mistakes by admitting and knowing their acts were wrong and moving forward with the intent of not committing the act again. And I should have added by also making a concerted effort to work on the marriage. A marriage is two people and I think for a marriage to work after an affair both the betraying and betrayed spouse have to really want the marriage to work. They have to both want to know what was going on in the relationship that an affair occurred. I'm not saying it isn't a HORRIBLE decision to have an affair. It is. It's a bad choice of action by someone who is discontent in a marriage in most cases. The couple needs to address these issues of discontent and healthy choices for handling these issues. An affair is obviously a very unhealthy choice. I know there is anger involved, etc. and the betrayed spouse should definitely be able to express this. I just don't see how a marriage will work, however, if the BS isn't willing to forgive and move forward. I think it would take a lot of hard work and can certainly understand if a BS prefers not to do so.
carhill Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 If he goes on Oprah, he's done More specifically, my comments on 'no comment' were directed more at his alleged and/or self-proclaimed mistresses/dalliances. IMO, if they think talking right now is smart and/or profitable, they're incredibly short-sighted.
Samantha0905 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 If he goes on Oprah, he's done More specifically, my comments on 'no comment' were directed more at his alleged and/or self-proclaimed mistresses/dalliances. IMO, if they think talking right now is smart and/or profitable, they're incredibly short-sighted. Good grief, I hope he doesn't go on Oprah. I don't understand the run to Oprah or Barbara Walters reaction.
Blindsidedagainalive Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 A betrayed person can choose to learn from an affair in their marriage by either making a concerted effort to fix the marriage or by walking away if they feel like they cannot forgive their spouse. An OW or OM and the betraying spouse can learn from their mistakes by admitting and knowing their acts were wrong and moving forward with the intent of not committing the act again. HMMM, for this to make sense, the betrayed spouse needs to KNOW that their spouse is cheating.
Samantha0905 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 A betrayed person can choose to learn from an affair in their marriage by either making a concerted effort to fix the marriage or by walking away if they feel like they cannot forgive their spouse. An OW or OM and the betraying spouse can learn from their mistakes by admitting and knowing their acts were wrong and moving forward with the intent of not committing the act again. HMMM, for this to make sense, the betrayed spouse needs to KNOW that their spouse is cheating. I think we've had this discussion and disagree. In any event, I honestly believe the woman seemed remorseful. It's just an opinion. Only she (and God) knows her true heart.
RedDevil66 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Red Devil, you may be the exception to the rule. Hats off to you for the courage it must have taken to do that. Based on what I read here, so many do not. I spent two years of my life assuming my husband's OW was like me, and must have felt ashamed, embarrassed, hurt.....something about me after DDay. Jeez, nothing could have been further from the truth. I agree, many of the mistresses here have not an ounce of remorse and some are actually proud of their actions......my take, not everyone is born with a conscience.
RedDevil66 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Yep, I agree. There is nothing classy or good-intentioned about sleeping with a MM. Now she has come forward to show the world she is better than the porn actresses and the hookers? I don't see how, as this is about sleeping with a MM, and she slept with him just like the porn actresses and the hookers did. I agree with this as well
Author Spark1111 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Posted December 15, 2009 hey, listen.....this guy had all, just all of them convinced his marriage was for publicity reasons only....who knew what else he said? His handlers brought them all over for a drink and they all run to type; very young, insecure, and oh so enamored to have a drink with one of the most famous celebs in the world. I am less proud of the one keeping quiet, with the high-powered attorney seeking big, bucks in the background, then Cori Rist, who claims to have never received a penny from him and did not keep every text and email for future financial gain. And no, she did not apologize privately to Elin because I would assume Elin is taking NO ONE's calls.....especially Tiger's! ugh! Not only does she have to bear this parade of bimbette's. but she also has to hear over and over again his line....."things are really rocky at home. My wife, she doesn't understand me like you do. We only got married for the endorsements." What do you think hurts more? The PAs, or his smear campaign of her?
NoIDidn't Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Damage control, plain and simple. She's just trying to separate herself from the rest of the pack. Invoking her being a single mom was to invoke sympathy for her situation. Apologizing to Elin, was to further separate her from the appearance of being "trashy", like people are thinking about his other OWs. I think its great that she ended the A when she realized it wasn't going anywhere, but its smacks of dishonesty to make it seem like she did it because of his W and children. She said the "assessed" the relationship, meaning the AFFAIR not his marriage and family. I agree with Carhill, that she, and all the others that have yet to speak out, and those that already have, should just keep their mouths shut. If I were one of Tiger's many sex partners, I would have kept my mouth shut. Period.
Recommended Posts