BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 My friend told me this the other night and it works for him, and it cracked me up. Tip the bartender well then hand him your coat. Have him give your coat to the girl you like with a note that says: "What are you doing with my coat? I'm coming over to get it back". It's only lame if you don't know how to follow up. If you're cool about it, it's "cute".
tami-chan Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 My friend told me this the other night and it works for him, and it cracked me up. Tip the bartender well then hand him your coat. Have him give your coat to the girl you like with a note that says: "What are you doing with my coat? I'm coming over to get it back". It's only lame if you don't know how to follow up. If you're cool about it, it's "cute". LOL..that is if the woman would even touch the coat. I know I would be, "ahmmm...that is obviously not mine, 1) it's too big 2)it's not 100% wool --so please bring it back to where you found it"
You'reasian Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) I'm not slick. Neither do I try to do stuff that I wouldn't do if I were involved with the person full-time. Just stick to the fundamentals and go with the flow. If I'm good at something, I'd rather undersell myself and overdeliver -rather than the opposite. Edited December 14, 2009 by You'reasian
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 I dont get it It's not meant to have any meaning. It's just meant to be an icebreaker that's different. Most guys offer to buy girls a drink or say "hi, I'm Fred" and get shot down because the chances are the girl's had 10 guys approach her the same night saying the same thing. It's to set you apart from the rest of the crowd.
You'reasian Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 It's not meant to have any meaning. It's just meant to be an icebreaker that's different. Most guys offer to buy girls a drink or say "hi, I'm Fred" and get shot down because the chances are the girl's had 10 guys approach her the same night saying the same thing. It's to set you apart from the rest of the crowd. Interesting. If what I'm presenting face to face doesn't get some kind of initial reaction from her, I don't press it further. Not a big believer in running game - don't intend to meet women at the bar scene although you inadvertently do. Even then, I'm upfront about what I think about it. Yep, I'm boring lol
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 Interesting. If what I'm presenting face to face doesn't get some kind of initial reaction from her, I don't press it further. Not a big believer in running game - don't intend to meet women at the bar scene although you inadvertently do. Even then, I'm upfront about what I think about it. Yep, I'm boring lol This is where most people have a misunderstanding about "games". Many people think, if you don't act the way you want to, you're playing games. Nothing could be more from the truth. You can't change your baseline personality, but you can change your initial approach to make yourself more marketable. Think of a TV ad. What product are you likely to buy more of. One that was marketed with an ad that was really catchy, or an ad that bored you? Of course the product still has to be good, but no one knows if it's not marketed well and they don't try it out in the first place. People that want to use convential approaches, or moan about why can't I "call the other person 10 times in the first week after meeting them" and say if they do something else it's game playing, are actually missing the point. If you go fishing and you're personal inclination is to jump in the river and scare away all the fish, then you don't follow your personal inclination.........you "play games" and actually catch a fish.
Art_Critic Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 My friend told me this the other night and it works for him I seriously doubt it.. unless his idea of it working is the girl handing him the jacket back and saying see ya... It isn't an icebreaker.. it is just to much.. too weird Stick with just Hi!
theBrokenMuse Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 If you're cool about it, it's "cute". I can't imagine a woman finding this cute. In fact it sounds really, really lame.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard of! LOL Not only would that not work it would totally annoy me that some dweeb went through all that stupid trouble when he could have just come up to me and said "Hi I'm ____" And I agree with the person who said about touching the coat, I know my coats I would not touch a guy's jacket. LAME!
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard of! LOL Not only would that not work it would totally annoy me that some dweeb went through all that stupid trouble when he could have just come up to me and said "Hi I'm ____" And I agree with the person who said about touching the coat, I know my coats I would not touch a guy's jacket. LAME! Well that's why I asked you ladies, because on the surface it sounds so lame. Yet he went ahead and did it in front of us and pulled it off with a pretty attractive girl. He's a decent looking guy and really funny, good personality. He can make it work. That's why I asked the opinion of you ladies. Something that is risky will either make a guy seem really lame, or if he presents it in the right way it makes him look better. It's like a joke, delivered wrong sounds lame, delivered in the right way by a comedian, makes everyone laugh.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 If he is good looking and has such a great personality and is that funny, he doesn't need that elaborate silly plan just to get a chick's attention. Unless she is dumber than a goldfish. A funny one liner about something that is happening around you at the bar is far more effective.
Art_Critic Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 He's a decent looking guy and really funny, good personality. That is why the women looked past the lameness.. He doesn't need a line for him to start a conversation if he is decent looking, funny and a good personality
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 That is why the women looked past the lameness.. He doesn't need a line for him to start a conversation if he is decent looking, funny and a good personality Well that's where the unconventional aspect comes into it. If he does the normal it's hard to leverage it. When he does the abnormal it gives him more room to use his imagination and sense of humor.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 Well that's where the unconventional aspect comes into it. If he does the normal it's hard to leverage it. When he does the abnormal it gives him more room to use his imagination and sense of humor. I'm sorry but you friend doesn't sound cool, he sounds like a geek who is used to having to try really hard to get some attention from women. If he is funny all he needs to do is come up with a good opener, that's all a guy needs at a bar. Not a pick up line something that will get her laughing and talking.
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 something that will get her laughing and talking. She looked apprehensive when he first approached her, but that's exactly what she was doing within the first minute of him talking to her. She was laughing. The reason I started this thread is because I find a lot of women look down on certain openers and say it's lame, yet in real life it works. I think women in general just don't want to think there are lame things that can work on them, it makes it seem that certain types of men can use set routines on them, and that removes the magic of "chemistry" or "it was just meant to be". The point is, anything that is unconventional works if delivered right. That delivery of course hindges on the guy's personality.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 The reason I started this thread is because I find a lot of women look down on certain openers and say it's lame, yet in real life it works. I think women in general just don't want to think there are lame things that can work on them, it makes it seem that certain types of men can use set routines on them, and that removes the magic of "chemistry" or "it was just meant to be". The point is, anything that is unconventional works if delivered right. That delivery of course hindges on the guy's personality. Well if you are so positive of that, why are you asking us women what we think of it? Just do it, and watch the women fall at your feet.
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 Well if you are so positive of that, why are you asking us women what we think of it? Just do it, and watch the women fall at your feet. I just wanted to see how many of you would say it's lame I'm don't think I can pull it off. That's really the point. Some guys can pull off the ridiculous and make it work. Shows that unconventional deliveries that require risk and imagination can make a guy look better IF they are able to hold their own. It's actually better than a normal "hi" for them.
theBrokenMuse Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 That's really the point. Some guys can pull off the ridiculous and make it work. Shows that unconventional deliveries that require risk and imagination can make a guy look better IF they are able to pull it off. Just because it worked one time with one chick really means nothing. A one time hit could be pure luck. She could have a really weird sense of humor or have been really hammered. He would have to retry this a bunch of times and see if he gets more wins then losses to show that this approach is effective and yes, I am open for taking bets.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 So what you are REALLY trying to make a point of is that your friend is one of those special guys that has so much charm and good looks that he could wear a peacock father in his ear and present a dead skunk on a platter for a woman and somehow he would make that look funny and end up with her number too?
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 Just because it worked one time with one chick really means nothing. A one time hit could be pure luck. She could have a really weird sense of humor or have been really hammered. He would have to retry this a bunch of times and see if he gets more wins then losses to show that this approach is effective and yes, I am open for taking bets. Yes I agree, should see him make the approach many times. The thing is he picks up a lot of girls, and did this approach almost as a joke to the rest of us guys to prove that anything can work for him. It just shows it's not so much what you say or do, as it is in how you say it or do it.
You'reasian Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 This is where most people have a misunderstanding about "games". Many people think, if you don't act the way you want to, you're playing games. Nothing could be more from the truth. You can't change your baseline personality, but you can change your initial approach to make yourself more marketable. Think of a TV ad. What product are you likely to buy more of. One that was marketed with an ad that was really catchy, or an ad that bored you? Of course the product still has to be good, but no one knows if it's not marketed well and they don't try it out in the first place. People that want to use convential approaches, or moan about why can't I "call the other person 10 times in the first week after meeting them" and say if they do something else it's game playing, are actually missing the point. If you go fishing and you're personal inclination is to jump in the river and scare away all the fish, then you don't follow your personal inclination.........you "play games" and actually catch a fish. I hear you, BT. I guess I'm more of a low percentage scorer when it comes to the game-dating concept. When meeting new friends, I just try to be myself - which is probably interesting enough lol - but when negotiating to buy a car or something, I change things up. I don't get alot of phone numbers when I go to the bar and if I do, its usually tied to something of a hobbie kind of interest. Where do I meet the best quality of women? When I'm out doing other fun things. Different atmosphere all together. Different mind set.
Author BookerT Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 So what you are REALLY trying to make a point of is that your friend is one of those special guys that has so much charm and good looks that he could wear a peacock father in his ear and present a dead skunk on a platter for a woman and somehow he would make that look funny and end up with her number too? No, I just wanted to get some female opinions. Primarily I want to see the difference in the way things come across at face value, and how people logically judge or see it, from when it's done in real life. One thing I've noticed about men that are successful with women is they often use things that with another man would come across as lame. It's almost like making a gamble but their success rate goes up if they do the unconventional. In other words, if he just said "Hi" he can't leverage off his sense of humor as much.
New Again Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 She looked apprehensive when he first approached her, but that's exactly what she was doing within the first minute of him talking to her. She was laughing. The reason I started this thread is because I find a lot of women look down on certain openers and say it's lame, yet in real life it works. I think women in general just don't want to think there are lame things that can work on them, it makes it seem that certain types of men can use set routines on them, and that removes the magic of "chemistry" or "it was just meant to be". The point is, anything that is unconventional works if delivered right. That delivery of course hindges on the guy's personality. Art Critic hit the nail on the head when he said that women just look past the lameness because he's good looking, good personality &etc. So no, your friend's lame opener doesn't work on women. Your friend does - he just goes to way too much effort to approach them than he needs to.
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