Nemoralis Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I’ll start from the beginning… My live-in boyfriend (we are 20 and 21 years old) and I were getting ready to go out to our favorite club this past Saturday. Before the club we were having a small surprise birthday get-together for a friend of ours. At about 9:00 PM this friend calls us. He sounded SO excited on the phone about his birthday and the party. My boyfriend tells him that we are coming to pick him up a little early so that he can come see our new apartment. When my boyfriend arrives at our friend’s house, he finds him dead in his bed with a gun still in his mouth. At first he acted like it hadn’t affected him much, but I think we were both still in shock. I didn’t want to go out after that, but he begged me to go with him. He’s social and I think he needed to be around people who also knew our friend. We went out and my boyfriend started self-medicating…drinking a good bit and I could tell it was really starting to affect him even though he was acting like it wasn’t. I should also mention that one of my good friends had come with our group to the club and brought his little sister with him for her first “club experience.” She’s only fifteen but it was none of my business whether she came or not and I do like the girl and knew she’d be safe with us. My boyfriend and I are very open and honest with each other and have talked in the past about having a threesome. This girl for some reason was very into having a threesome with both of us. We joked around about it but said that she was way too young. I’m not into minors. We all went to a friend’s house after the club. I was tired so I crashed on his couch with the fifteen year old (nothing sexual). My boyfriend stayed up talking to his friend about our other friend’s suicide. I did not know this at the time, but my boyfriend’s friend was giving him xanax to help him calm down. He was also drinking a bit. Our friend ended up giving my boyfriend 2 xanax over the course of the night (he gave them to him in halves). At 7 AM I woke up freezing and cramped on the couch and wanted to go home to sleep as I had work later that day. I asked my boyfriend to please come home with me. He refused, saying that he was going to stay up and talk to his friend. I still didn’t know he’d been taking xanax. I told him I’d come get him whenever he was ready to leave and I went home. Around noon I got a call from my boyfriend asking where I had gone. I told him I’d gone home (apparently he didn’t remember me leaving). He asked me to come get him. When I got to our friend’s house, he told me that he had slept with the fifteen year old girl. I have talked to everyone who was in the house and this is what happened. After I left, my boyfriend, the girl, and our friend stayed up for a while talking. When our friend wanted to go to sleep, my boyfriend and the girl went upstairs and fell asleep on a couch. She was drunk and he had passed on the xanax and alcohol I guess. A few hours later they both woke up and started kissing, which led to sex. Immediately afterward they both went downstairs and my boyfriend looked for me and couldn’t find me. That’s when he called me to come get him. He says he doesn’t know what he was thinking, that nothing made sense that weekend and he wasn’t thinking clearly at all. He doesn’t want to lose me, you get the drift. I don’t know what to think. Everything was going SO great for us. We are open and honest with each other, talk about everything. He is my best friend. But she is fifteen years old! We have built a life together and he is a graduating senior at a university while she is freshman in high school. I can’t believe he’d do something like this. He almost acted at first like he didn’t think anything was very wrong with it. We are both logical people and I can always follow and understand what he says but the past few days he has said some things that just don’t make any sense to me. I don’t understand where he is coming from right now. Sorry this was so long but I just don’t know what to do. I am torn between being his shoulder to cry on about his friend and being angry and hurt with him over this girl. What would you do?
pollswolls Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 You don't know what to do? Immaturity is a fabulous thing to hide behind. Well, what I would do........After I got done vomiting!! Call the Police. 15 makes her a minor. And I don't know about where you live - but even if it's consensual - It's still considered rape. :rolleyes:Assuming this story is true - Seems very far fetched to me.
kimmi Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I just read your story and I am so so so sorry that you are feeling so torn right now, To tell you the truth I have shivers going up my arms .. I really do not have any advise because the whole situation is so shocking... I would hug you if I could... I hope there are people on here that can give you advise on this... ((HUGS))
Author Nemoralis Posted December 8, 2009 Author Posted December 8, 2009 This story is not fake no matter how crazy it sounds. I couldn't make this stuff up. Yes, she is a minor and what he did is disgusting. I'm not trying to cover for him but in his defense, this girl looks way older than me and has been with more people than me. Fifteen year olds today are not the fifteen year olds of yesterday. But he is the adult and he should have known better. I also can't imagine what he is going through. He walked into his friend's house, excited about seeing everyone and celebrating his friend's birthday, only to find his friend slumped against a wall in bed still holding the gun in his mouth, with blood running down his face. Our friend was dying of AIDS and had been given only 2 years to live. I guess he wanted to go out on his own terms. The whole situation is even more f*cked up than I care to get into here. He is going through extreme mood swings right now. Guilt over what he did, and I think he is traumatized by what he had to go through with our friend. He broke down the other night in a way that I have never seen. He was crying and angry. Now he just seems blank and depressed. He keeps apologizing over and over. He has never had a history of cheating, even in past relationships. He never lies to me, always is where he says he is. Things have been so wonderful with us. He is so kind and affectionate to me. But this is SO low of a blow that I just don't know where to go from here. I told him that I would be there for him about our friend if he needed to talk but I am still unsure about what to do about us. I think we are going to go to the funeral and then I'm going to figure things out from there. Nothing makes sense right now.
kimmi Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I would say that even giving the situation I would still talk to him and he should turn himself in for the sexual act that as happened. This is my reasoning why for saying this, Right now as we are typing on the computers about this my ex of 14 years that has a past a phyically abusing me all the time is awaiting trail for beating up my son... His wife sits there and says that he does not deserve this at all... it was just a spanking, Call me nutz all I said back was I got spankings and I have never been removed from my home nor has there ever been cop's taking pictures of me because of these spankings ... The way that we see things when we are emotionally involved (and you are) is really different then you would react if you were not emotional about it... Let's say you heard this story while your out having a coffee and someone is telling there friend, what would you say that the person should do about it? How do you think this should be handled? At any time this child can go to her parents and tell them or there's then you have a lot more problems on your hands. I say the cops should be called and he has to go through the motions for what he has done. Don't get me wrong I feel so bad for you, and you are seeking some outside help or direction in this manor... Deal with it before it starts to get out of hand. About my ex and what he has done to my son... WOW I WANT HIM TO LIVE IN JAIL AND MISS OUT ON HIS FAMILY!!!! And trust me I loved him more then life itself and I am glad that we broke up over 10 years ago or I would be the one in Jail... (being 2500 miles away also helps)
Author Nemoralis Posted December 8, 2009 Author Posted December 8, 2009 I really do see where you are coming from. I have told him over and over again how disgusting I think what he did was. But I don't think the law is the final word, at least in moral issues. He was wrong, but he didn't try to prey on a minor. She came onto him, was trying to talk us into having a threesome with her. This is girl is no innocent and he didn't hurt her by sleeping with her. Even if he weren't my boyfriend, I don't think I'd want him to turn himself in. He is a graduating senior in college with his whole life ahead of him. He has made ALL the right choices in life and has everything going for him. He is paying for his mistake emotionally. I don't want him to turn himself in. I just don't know if I want to be with him or if I DO stay with him, how I should handle this. I'm not ignoring your advise! I completely hear what you are saying. I just don't see how any good what come of ruining his life.
LucreziaBorgia Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 The circumstances aren't going to matter if she turns up pregnant, if she tells someone, or someone else says something. If it gets out far enough, he will be arrested and charged with statutory rape. The others involved with be held responsible for her being drunk. If I were him, I'd be considering legal counsel.
kimmi Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I really do see where you are coming from. I have told him over and over again how disgusting I think what he did was. But I don't think the law is the final word, at least in moral issues. He was wrong, but he didn't try to prey on a minor. She came onto him, was trying to talk us into having a threesome with her. This is girl is no innocent and he didn't hurt her by sleeping with her. Even if he weren't my boyfriend, I don't think I'd want him to turn himself in. He is a graduating senior in college with his whole life ahead of him. He has made ALL the right choices in life and has everything going for him. He is paying for his mistake emotionally. I don't want him to turn himself in. I just don't know if I want to be with him or if I DO stay with him, how I should handle this. I'm not ignoring your advise! I completely hear what you are saying. I just don't see how any good what come of ruining his life. WOW JUST READ YOUR OTHER POSTS!!! This is fricken crazy if this is the same man that has herpies , That's WRONG!! Are you serious, you say that he has ALWAYS made the right choices in life. I somehow dought that ... You have one big mess to contend to. I know about STD'S and yes she can get them even if there is no break out ... GRRR ... this man you love might have ruined this 15 year old's future. And yes she is a CHILD not a adult ... :sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick:
Tayla Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Which leads us back to the opinion enlisted by Pollswolls. 1: And underage person- equals a crime by the adult. 2: Since this female knew of it she is witholding information and can be charged with obstruction of the law if someone does come forth to lay claim against the guy. Think twice before covering for someone. 3: No SANE or EVEN SEMI decent human being goes out bar hopping -clubbing after finding another human dead. Period- end of discussion. WHich isnt really a discussion anyways because it is a fictious account .... I am sincerely upset that a person comes here to practice creative writing... Most here are good folks .
kimmi Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I hear you there, At first I was feeling really bad for her but then I read her past post and none of it makes sense at all. The dates, the names, this person is a creative writer that is for sure... Makes me sickl 100%
cody5 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I didn't buy it either. Not even a good story. Needs to be believable. Going out partying after finding your friend dead. LAME. You'd be in an interrogation room until well after the bars closed.
jnj express Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 she came onto him---what is your boyfriend an idiot????---Statutory rape, sex offender, etc. the law is absolute. There is zero tolerance-----If I were you, I would drop this guy real quick. He is gonna worry the rest of his life about this. If girl has any problems with others, and her activities come out with other guys she slept with, your BF is in deep trouble. He may be young but one would hope he is really not as stupid as he sounds. Also how does one who discovers a suicide get to get loose from that situation so quickly----usually cops take plenty of time to go thru everything----Lot of red flags here----not sure I believe any of this, to tell the truth.
torranceshipman Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 she came onto him---what is your boyfriend an idiot????---Statutory rape, sex offender, etc. the law is absolute. There is zero tolerance-----If I were you, I would drop this guy real quick. He is gonna worry the rest of his life about this. If girl has any problems with others, and her activities come out with other guys she slept with, your BF is in deep trouble. He may be young but one would hope he is really not as stupid as he sounds. Also how does one who discovers a suicide get to get loose from that situation so quickly----usually cops take plenty of time to go thru everything----Lot of red flags here----not sure I believe any of this, to tell the truth. I agree with this poster. The whole point of statutory rape is that someone is a child and doesn't know the ramifications of their actions, so us, as adults, and the law, is there to say 'whatever you think is good for you, 15yr old girl, we're here as responsible adults to look after you, but rejecting your advances, by telling you off for making jokes about 3somes' etc. That is our role as adults. It is awful to say that she came on to him, has had partners before, and looks older. So what? She is a child. I know you kind of agree with this, but it sounds like you're trying to justify your boyfriends behavior somehow. Don't. Having sex with a minor is very, very wrong on every single level and she could have been standing there in a bikini saying 'have sex with me now' and he still should have said no, you are a child, this is wrong, etc, and been protective over her by NOT engaging in anything sexual with her. As for the rest....sad, sad situation. Without apportioning blame one way or another, I think you should get some space and step away from this situation for a while.
kimmi Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I think that the OP should reread all her posts. This is a troubled person, and if the posts that this person is writing are true, You need some professional help.. They are far fetched but in some cases people do have lives like this. If this is all true.. PROFESSIONAL HELP IS NEEDED...
stuckinoz Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I'm with the majority here. All points are ASSUMING this story could somewhat be plausable.. 1 - Who in the hell goes out drinking/clubbing & doing drugs AFTER they have found a dear friend D E A D? None of my friends would. 2 - Who makes "excuses" for their boyfriend "Oh it was under crazy circumstances," - GEE, YA THINK? 3 - What girlfriend stays with a boyfriend that does this? 4 - The 'story' that this girl has had more partners than a 21 year old - Really? 5 - It's a bunch-a-hooie!! Good writing practice though. Maybe this script will end up on Primetime. I won't watch....Already read the book!
Angel1111 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 He almost acted at first like he didn’t think anything was very wrong with it. We are both logical people and I can always follow and understand what he says but the past few days he has said some things that just don’t make any sense to me. I don’t understand where he is coming from right now. If you're willing to have a threesome with your bf and another female, then why would you be surprised that he doesn't think sleeping with someone else when you're not around is that big of a deal? If you're so logical, then what are you so offended by? I'm not being sarcastic, either. I just don't get what you're so upset about when you're perfectly willing to let him screw around with someone when you're there.
kimmi Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Seriously read her other posts .. There is something wrong with this girl forsure
Angel1111 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Seriously read her other posts .. There is something wrong with this girl forsure Huh. I'll just take your word on it.
fooled once Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Yeah, the whole "Hmm - friend is dead in the bed and let's go clubbing" didn't sound like what NORMAL people do. Because NORMAL people call the police and they are usuallly detained for quite a while trying to sort out details. But nope, these two see the dead friend go clubbing, drink, take drugs and then screw the 15 year old who doesn't LOOK like a 15 year old and then let's excuse the sleeze ball guy cause he had a bad day.
Fallen Angel Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 HMMM.. me thinks perhaps you have already divulged too much if you don't think that he should face the law on this. All it takes is for a concerned citizen to contact the police about your posts admitting that you know about and are protecting someone who commited what could be considered rape and/or molestation of a minor, depending on the state in which you live. The police can then get the IP address from which you post, and bingo bango, child predator BF is facing time. HMMMM.. perhaps this has already been done today?
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