Yukikazi Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Like the creep that approaches women who clearly want nothing to with him knows where he stands too. Without foreknowledge that she thinks he is a creep for whatever reason she could possibly dream up (assuming he dosen't look creepy).. how does he know he's creepy or acts creepy before the approach? So far as I am aware.. a person ends up creepy if they are too anxious, are hesitant about what they are doing and dosen't show the confidence that he knows what he is doing.
thegreatmoose Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 I dont consider a faceless picture something. I see part her of her face. I see none of your face. How about you show more respect toward others?
donnamaybe Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 No I'll let you draft it out. What do you think it takes to be a man and what do you think it takes for a man to be respected in the dating process? List points and I'll take it from there. Here ya go. Now you can try to argue semantics (and you probably will ), but if the above isn't asking for someone to define how a man should act in a relationship I don't know what is.
boogieboy Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Without foreknowledge that she thinks he is a creep for whatever reason she could possibly dream up (assuming he dosen't look creepy).. how does he know he's creepy or acts creepy before the approach? So far as I am aware.. a person ends up creepy if they are too anxious, are hesitant about what they are doing and dosen't show the confidence that he knows what he is doing. Oh yeah, I remember a thread a while back that a woman said the same thing. Said the guy was creepy with his approach, and what he was saying to her. She let him ramble on, didnt stop him, claimed she was trapped in the situation, but she just didnt want to deal with rejecting him. Turned out he did nothing to actually be creepy, he was a nice and pleasant guy...she just wasnt attracted to him. Creepy is used a lil too loosely.
Yukikazi Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Its not necessarily the guy that's creepy.. its the approach.. Just like when a guy gets shot down just after he tries to open communications.. don't take it personally.. she isn't rejecting you.. she is rejecting the approach. She doesn't know enough about you to reject you based on anything but looks. If she is that shallow.. you don't wanna know her anyway.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Here ya go. Now you can try to argue semantics (and you probably will ), but if the above isn't asking for someone to define how a man should act in a relationship I don't know what is. That's not what it meant and it's pretty clear what I meant if you follow the discussion at the time. We were discussing what it takes to approach women. Never any talks of relationship or of how you should be in a relationship!?!? Strictly early courting stage of when men approach women, on topic with the original topic discussion. For someone who came in to complain about going OT, you don't lead by example. I find that ironic. You knew I would argue semantics because you are reaching!
InspiredbyYou Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 I dont consider a faceless picture something. Forget about my picture, you don't need anyone's opinion on what you look like because you know where you stand but a 300lbs woman does need painful truths expressed to her because she doesn't know where she stands? that seems a very arrogant attitude to have. Why won't you answer that?
silic0ntoad Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 He won't answer it because he knows he's wrong. Oh, and I posted an example at the top of the page of my approach and why I don't feel creepy or feel that girls think I am creepy. Read above. -B
InspiredbyYou Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 It's all about the response. I've never gotten anything beyond a polite response. And once is enough. If I approach a woman (I'll usually use something as a reason for approaching them... I'll post an example in a sec) Depending on their body language and response, I know wether or not I should back off. I don't think if you try once, and only once, it is creepy in any way. Perfect point. This is precisely what creeps fail to see, when a guy fails to read a woman's body language and proceeds to become persistent with all the sings at clear plain view for him to take in, that is what makes him a creep. You know how to approach women! To blame women solely for having false elated egos created by other women who lie to them, is really a fantasy and an over simplistic way to look at things.
donnamaybe Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 That's not what it meant and it's pretty clear what I meant if you follow the discussion at the time. We were discussing what it takes to approach women. Never any talks of relationship or of how you should be in a relationship!?!? Strictly early courting stage of when men approach women, on topic with the original topic discussion. For someone who came in to complain about going OT, you don't lead by example. I find that ironic. You knew I would argue semantics because you are reaching! When you initiate interaction with someone, you have a relationship with them, even if it only goes to dating and no further. Hell, you even have relationships with your co-workers! If the dating goes further into an exclusive thing, it's still a relationship, and you asked what it takes to be a man (how to act) and kept prodding for a response from these guys. I figured you would argue simply because you seem to enjoy it so.
donnamaybe Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Perfect point. This is precisely what creeps fail to see, when a guy fails to read a woman's body language and proceeds to become persistent with all the sings at clear plain view for him to take in, that is what makes him a creep. You know how to approach women! To blame women solely for having false elated egos created by other women who lie to them, is really a fantasy and an over simplistic way to look at things. I think they were only blaming the OP and what appears to be her type of woman. Not saying the OP is THAT type of woman, but the posts might make it appear so. Kind of did to me.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Furthermore, any guy who knows anything about picking up women will tell you that the key to approaching women is to look for signs of receptive interest. Seeing a woman that appeals to you physically but doesn't even look your way is not a strong enough sign that she wants to be approached. Seeing her body language that is receptive to your eye contact or if she even smiles or holds her gaze and comes back for more, IS. Creeps fail to see this.
silic0ntoad Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Well, thanks. Idk, I didn't think it was rocket science to approach women. But I will say over here women are alot more difficult than overseas haha.
boogieboy Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Forget about my picture, you don't need anyone's opinion on what you look like because you know where you stand but a 300lbs woman does need painful truths expressed to her because she doesn't know where she stands? that seems a very arrogant attitude to have. Why won't you answer that? If a 300lb woman asks me for a truth, I'd give it to her. Ive maintained that in this thread.
CaliGuy Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Why is it that some unappealing and creepy men think they are allowed to hit on a girl on the streets? Why is it that eligible and normal men don't do that? Do unappealing and creepy men have more confidence than perfectly normal men? Your definition of "creepy" is entirely subjective, depending on who is being asked.....
thegreatmoose Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Well, thanks. Idk, I didn't think it was rocket science to approach women. But I will say over here women are alot more difficult than overseas haha. When you lack confidence, it's HARDER than rocket science. When you have it, it's not so bad at all.
donnamaybe Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Furthermore, any guy who knows anything about picking up women will tell you that the key to approaching women is to look for signs of receptive interest. Seeing a woman that appeals to you physically but doesn't even look your way is not a strong enough sign that she wants to be approached. Seeing her body language that is receptive to your eye contact or if she even smiles or holds her gaze and comes back for more, IS. Creeps fail to see this. Because they don't care! But there have been times I have been approached by a guy I didn't notice initially, therefore, I didn't look his way. I was sure glad some approached after I got to know them. Some others, not so much. The OP, however, made it clear that they had to have a certain type of "face" before they were allowed to feel like they had a right to approach her. I think that's what set off the s--t storm in this thread.
GorillaTheater Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Do unappealing and creepy men have more confidence than perfectly normal men? Yes. But I can only really speak for myself, baby-cakes.
Yukikazi Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 When you lack confidence, it's HARDER than rocket science. When you have it, it's not so bad at all. Its also a catch 22 Like No experience no job.. no job no experience.. confidence = success... success = confidence.
thegreatmoose Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 If a 300lb woman asks me for a truth, I'd give it to her. Ive maintained that in this thread. What's that truth? Do you call her ugly to her face? What do you say? She already knows her weight. Do you rub it in to her?
Yukikazi Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 What's that truth? Do you call her ugly to her face? What do you say? She already knows her weight. Do you rub it in to her? I'm in the brutal honesty school.. if someone wants an honest answer.. they are gonna get one. Usually they just want, what they wanna hear.
thegreatmoose Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Its also a catch 22 Like No experience no job.. no job no experience.. confidence = success... success = confidence. It is and it takes lots of strength and guts and some encouragement to break out of the vicious cycle. This is why encouragement from others can be so critical to someone stuck in a rut whther it be because of being jobless or with dating.
Yukikazi Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 It is and it takes lots of strength and guts and some encouragement to break out of the vicious cycle. This is why encouragement from others can be so critical to someone stuck in a rut whther it be because of being jobless or with dating. Just gotta jump into the fire and find out how to not burn. I take this same pov regarding my fear. I have an issue with high places.. not heights themselves but the prospect of falling.. So whats the best way to conquer this fear??? Skydiving of course.. though I may need someone to kick me out of a perfectly good airplane.
thegreatmoose Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 I'm in the brutal honesty school.. if someone wants an honest answer.. they are gonna get one. Usually they just want, what they wanna hear. Someone in this thread stated that there is nothing attractive about a 300 lb woman. I can't believe that. There are positive aspects of virturally every person. An honest answer can be telling her something positive. Once you do that and have built up some trust with her, then you can talk about the more difficult to talk about her weight. Just telling someone they are fat will never get a positive response. Why bother?
InspiredbyYou Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Because they don't care! But there have been times I have been approached by a guy I didn't notice initially, therefore, I didn't look his way. I was sure glad some approached after I got to know them. Some others, not so much. The OP, however, made it clear that they had to have a certain type of "face" before they were allowed to feel like they had a right to approach her. I think that's what set off the s--t storm in this thread. sure sure, I know what you mean I've been approached by guys that came out of left field who were clearly checking me out and I hadn't even noticed them. But what about if you are not into him what do you do? Have you ever gotten to the point where you are trying to get away and trying to be polite but at the same time trying not to be too friendly as to give them any hope, and yet they keep persisting? that's kind of creepy. Have you ever seen a guy with a creepy face? It's not hotness factor it's pervert factor! I wish the OP would come back and tell us what she meant by that...
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