Author red shoes Posted December 8, 2009 Author Posted December 8, 2009 In the end though, one shouldn't complain about such men or women. Just move on...take them out of your dating pool. Usually they will end up screwing themselves in the long run when they can't find Mr or Ms Right. When anyone who fits their standards either doesn't want them or doesn't exist. This is not a "bitter" statement...but more telling men and women to move on and seek out mates who don't play these games with themselves or others. I see too many bring this up at times and it makes me feel like they're complaining about why all the "hot" eligible singles set the bar so unbelievably high and usually end up "settling" or hooking up with liars. Best not to dwell. LOL. Not dwelling. No point wasting too much brain cells on this. There's no bar setting or anything. Just questioning out loud. Onto other things. Life is good.
New_Life08 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Cognac, lolol!! There is probably more truth to that than any other post here.
boogieboy Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 An even better question is why do unappealing women expect to be hit on by appealing guys? Because their friends delude them into thinking that way.
AD1980 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Because their friends delude them into thinking that way. That is true i see some 300 lb women whos face looks like a trainwreck on a facebook photo and her friends are calling her pretty and gorgeous when we know its not true Men will call their own friends ugly..Most guys have some idea where they stand..
D-Jam Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I'll be brutally honest if a guy friend is asking me why it seems he can't get a girl. I'll even get honest on women who ask me why they can't find a decent guy. Only problem is most of them ignore or make excuses for or dismiss my honesty...I believe because they want to keep deluding themselves into thinking they can have it all.
boogieboy Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I'll be brutally honest if a guy friend is asking me why it seems he can't get a girl. I'll even get honest on women who ask me why they can't find a decent guy. Only problem is most of them ignore or make excuses for or dismiss my honesty...I believe because they want to keep deluding themselves into thinking they can have it all. I actually believe they dont listen because they dont want to work to make the changes. They already know they cant have it all, they find that out the hard way.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 That is true i see some 300 lb women whos face looks like a trainwreck on a facebook photo and her friends are calling her pretty and gorgeous when we know its not true Men will call their own friends ugly..Most guys have some idea where they stand.. Aww that's mean! Within the context of what someone looks like they could have better looking days/pictures than others. It's not that we like to lie to each other we just like to build our friend's self esteem. We are more verbal about sharing praise for the less obvious sometimes as opposed to men who tend to mostly praise the "obvious". Can a person who is 300lbs not look good in their own way? I think some of the guys' comments here are pretty true, some women define "creep" in terms of how much attraction she feels for the guy doing the pick-up. Sad but true. I think it takes a lot more than just trying to pick a girl up to be a creep, most the times I would describe these overly confident guys as hams not creeps. I find hams entertaining, you can't possibly take offense to them. Oh and it's not about looks it's about their approach.
boogieboy Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Can a person who is 300lbs not look good in their own way? In their own way, but not in anyone elses way. Thats why lying to them doesnt help them.
cognac Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Aww that's mean! Within the context of what someone looks like they could have better looking days/pictures than others. It's not that we like to lie to each other we just like to build our friend's self esteem. We are more verbal about sharing praise for the less obvious sometimes as opposed to men who tend to mostly praise the "obvious". Can a person who is 300lbs not look good in their own wa[/Quote] Is that what women call it when they patronize others? Personally I'd get more offended at someone patronizing me , than actually being mean to me. Fake compliments are the reason why some people second think an authentic compliment.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 In their own way, but not in anyone elses way. Thats why lying to them doesnt help them. Is that what women call it when they patronize others? Personally I'd get more offended at someone patronizing me , than actually being mean to me. Fake compliments are the reason why some people second think an authentic compliment. Some of us can see beauty in people of all shapes and sizes, thank you both for demonstrating what a cliche men can sometimes. Telling a 300lb woman she looks good in a picture is not lying, people can look good in their own way and within context of what their overall appearance is. Telling her she looks skinny would be a lie.
Johnny M Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Aww that's mean! Within the context of what someone looks like they could have better looking days/pictures than others. It's not that we like to lie to each other we just like to build our friend's self esteem. And you do it by lying to them. Can a person who is 300lbs not look good in their own way? A woman who is 300 lbs cannot look good in any way. By telling a woman like that that she looks 'hot' (while in reality you know she's repulsive), you are not doing her any favors. Instead of losing weight to become more attractive, she will eventually convince herself that she's hot in 'her own way' (and we all know that's complete and utter BS).
boogieboy Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Some of us can see beauty in people of all shapes and sizes, thank you both for demonstrating what a cliche men can sometimes. . Im sure its easy for you to tell people all of your cliches when you dont have to date them. Try being the guy she likes who has to tell her hes not attracted to 300 lbs women. Your cliche of "Looking good in her own way" doesnt work there.
Boundary Problem Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Im sure its easy for you to tell people all of your cliches when you dont have to date them. Try being the guy she likes who has to tell her hes not attracted to 300 lbs women. Your cliche of "Looking good in her own way" doesnt work there. If a woman's weight is the only turn off you have - just gently tell her. Maybe it is the motivation she needs, or she kicks you to the curb - either way - win win for you. You either get a more attractive female in the end, or you get released from your unhappy current situation.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 A woman who is 300 lbs cannot look good in any way. By telling a woman like that that she looks 'hot' (while in reality you know she's repulsive), you are not doing her any favors. Instead of losing weight to become more attractive, she will eventually convince herself that she's hot in 'her own way' (and we all know that's complete and utter BS). Maybe to you, because you need to be spoon fed the obvious. I know she's fat and needs to lose weight she knows she's fat and needs to lose weight, as a friend she needs me to to encourage her to love herself enough just as she is to want to fix all the harm she has done to herself. telling someone you think they look good even if they are not people's ideal of "good looking" is not lying. It is seeing the beauty in people beyond what you are programmed to see with your dick. I'd hate to be your 6 year old child who brings you a drawing of you they made in school. I can just hear the reaction: "Get the **** out of here kid, that's not me that's a bloody scribble. You suck as an artist. Come back to me when you actually draw you retard!"
InspiredbyYou Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) Im sure its easy for you to tell people all of your cliches when you dont have to date them. Try being the guy she likes who has to tell her hes not attracted to 300 lbs women. Your cliche of "Looking good in her own way" doesnt work there. Oh be quiet, the example was women telling other women on facebook they look good in a picture. Not - should you lie to a woman you are dating and you don't like and tell her that you find her attractive. Just don't go out with her if you don't find her attractive. No one is holding a gun to your head. Problem solved! Edited December 8, 2009 by InspiredbyYou
AD1980 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe to you, because you need to be spoon fed the obvious. I know she's fat and needs to lose weight she knows she's fat and needs to lose weight, as a friend she needs me to to encourage her to love herself enough just as she is to want to fix all the harm she has done to herself. telling someone you think they look good even if they are not people's ideal of "good looking" is not lying. It is seeing the beauty in people beyond what you are programmed to see with your dick. I'd hate to be your 6 year old child who brings you a drawing of you they made in school. I can just hear the reaction: "Get the **** out of here kid, that's not me that's a bloody scribble. You suck as an artist. Come back to me when you actually draw you retard!" Funny when the op brings up undesirable ugly men approaching she gets advice on how to avoid these inferior men if a guy god forbid talks about other women being unattractive women go crazy and act like the mans a scumbag..
dudet Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 what is attractive about a 300lb whale, unless she has a pretty face?
thegreatmoose Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) A woman who is 300 lbs cannot look good in any way. By telling a woman like that that she looks 'hot' (while in reality you know she's repulsive), you are not doing her any favors. Instead of losing weight to become more attractive, she will eventually convince herself that she's hot in 'her own way' (and we all know that's complete and utter BS). That's your opinion. You can only speak for yourself and certainly not for everybody. Some men like bigger women or don't care about the size. Plenty of 300+ pound women are married. Why is that? Let me help you out. The man loves her. Also, even if you don't like her size, can't other acpects of her be attractive? Can't she have a beautiful face or a beautiful smile? Can't she have beautiful hair or breasts? You claim just because she is heavy that every single aspect of her is ugly. Wow. There are certain physical types of men and women that much of society says it's ok to hate and I think that's pathetic. :rolleyes: Edited December 8, 2009 by thegreatmoose
thegreatmoose Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 what is attractive about a 300lb whale, unless she has a pretty face? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people might find her attractive while others will not. Everyone determines on their own what is attractive.
dudet Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people might find her attractive while others will not. Everyone determines on their own what is attractive. perhaps those who have skipped their annual eye exam for the past 3 years?
thegreatmoose Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 perhaps those who have skipped their annual eye exam for the past 3 years? perhaps those who don't determine what is attractive or not attractive based on what society says is attractive
InspiredbyYou Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Funny when the op brings up undesirable ugly men approaching she gets advice on how to avoid these inferior men if a guy god forbid talks about other women being unattractive women go crazy and act like the mans a scumbag.. There are haters on both camps, I am not one of them. I have been consistent in my comments and this is what I said on the first page of this thread/topic: Hahahaha there is some truth to that. However, what is unappealing to one girl can be appealing to another. So in guy's defense some guys will try and keep trying until they get a result even if sometimes they hit on women that are somewhat out of their league. You gotta respect guys who at least have the guts for trying that, I can imagine it must take a lot of courage to set yourself up like that. what is even funnier is how every time a woman starts a thread about something a guy does wrong there is a whole swarm of guys who flock to these threads to piss on women, they can never just stick to the topic at hand. Wonder why that is..... Can somebody please tell me what praising a 300lb woman on facebook has to do with creepy guys approaching women on the street?
Johnny M Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I know she's fat and needs to lose weight she knows she's fat and needs to lose weight, as a friend she needs me to to encourage her to love herself enough just as she is to want to fix all the harm she has done to herself. She needs you to encourage and motivate her to lose fat. She doesn't need you to mislead her into thinking that she's attractive the way she is. telling someone you think they look good even if they are not people's ideal of "good looking" is not lying. It's not? What about telling someone who is retarded that he is a genius in his own way? What about telling an alcoholic or chainsmoker that she is healthy in her own way? What about telling someone who flunked high school physics that he's got the brain to be a rocket scientist with NASA? I suppose none of that would qualify as 'lying' according to your standards? It is seeing the beauty in people beyond what you are programmed to see with your dick. There's a term for the phenomenon of seeing something that's not there. It's called hallucinating. And while it's true that beauty has both objective and subjective elements to it, very few men would find a 300 lb. woman even remotely attractive. I'd hate to be your 6 year old child who brings you a drawing of you they made in school. I can just hear the reaction: "Get the **** out of here kid, that's not me that's a bloody scribble. You suck as an artist. Come back to me when you actually draw you retard!" What an absurd analogy. Besides, I'm not suggesting you should put your friend down by calling her a fat pig or something like that. However, you should abstain from giving her false comfort. When people get comfortable, they lose the motivation to change. Your fat friend needs to feel uncomfortable in order to finally get off her lazy ass and hit the gym. And you are basically working against her with this 'you're beautiful in your own way' crap.
boogieboy Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Can somebody please tell me what praising a 300lb woman on facebook has to do with creepy guys approaching women on the street? Well lets see, you kept the 300lb facebook woman discussion goin tryin to defend your right to lie to her, you could try defending the OP on how only the guys that approach her on the street are creepy, but its only because they arent attractive to her, not because they said anything creepy.
dudet Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 My Suggestion NEVER tell a 300lbs woman she is attractive, but do not criticize her and put her down in negative ways. there are certain ways you can encourage her to lose weight, but yes i believe its a lie telling someone of that size they are attractive
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