thegreatmoose Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Why is it that some unappealing and creepy men think they are allowed to hit on a girl on the streets? Why is it that eligible and normal men don't do that? Do unappealing and creepy men have more confidence than perfectly normal men? I'm scared that I will come off as "creepy" so I don't hit on women that I see on the streets.
b52s Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I'm scared that I will come off as "creepy" so I don't hit on women that I see on the streets. Yeah, and if all the so-called "Creepy men" stopped hitting on her in the streets, then she'll complain that no one will approach her, THUS discovering she'll HAVE to date creepy guys.
thegreatmoose Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Yeah, and if all the so-called "Creepy men" stopped hitting on her in the streets, then she'll complain that no one will approach her, THUS discovering she'll HAVE to date creepy guys. There will always be men who really are very creepy who have no problem hitting on every woman they see.
FleshNBones Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 So the "normal" ones don't need to do much to get women, whether confident or otherwise. But the "not so normal" ones need to try harder.Some guys are more normal than others if you know what I mean.
Untouchable_Fire Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 unappealing is not necessarily synonymous with unattractive. A man who has terrible social manners, is a complete moron/crass/pig, is unappealing. But can still be attractive in literal terms. Just saying. Yes it is. I put a good amount of effort into looking good, and because of it, I can get away with being a total jerk the vast majority of the time. SNL did this skit with Tom Brady that is very true... and also very funny. http://patriots.fandome.com/video/98594/Tom-Brady-SNL-Sexual-Harassment-PSA/
JamesM Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 As has been said, creepy and unappealing can mean different things to different women. If a "normal" man says something to you and you take it either differently than he meant or as he meant...but it struck you as crass, rude or lewd at that time, he then becomes creepy and unappealing. If that same man said a similar comment to a woman who found him appealing, then she would take it differently. There are comments that I can make to my wife or someone who knows me and these comments will be taken as either funny or even flirty. If I made those same comments to a woman who did not know me, then she would consider me creepy. A while back my wife was looking at People's sexy man issue. She was labeling men as yuck or yes. And interesting to me was how she considered not only their lucks in many cases...but the stories of who they are. So if a guy was in the news for cheating on his wife, he was no longer as handsome to her. So it is here I think. "Creepy and unappealing" can be what a man gets labeled if he makes comments that come off that way. If that same man were to be known as a "normal" man and then made such a comment, then it would either put him in the creepy category or it would be taken as okay knowing who he is. Just my 2c.
thegreatmoose Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Yes it is. I put a good amount of effort into looking good, and because of it, I can get away with being a total jerk the vast majority of the time. SNL did this skit with Tom Brady that is very true... and also very funny. http://patriots.fandome.com/video/98594/Tom-Brady-SNL-Sexual-Harassment-PSA/ I'd hope this would not be true at all.
Untouchable_Fire Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I'd hope this would not be true at all. Look, if your good looking and you hit on a girl... it makes her feel pretty. If your ugly and you hit on a girl... you just creeped her out. I have a friend who is fairly ugly. He really can't approach women the same way I do. Think of it like this, women are much more shallow in first meeting someone than men are, however, afterwards they are much less shallow. I think it's an instinct designed for safety.
Alter ego Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Yes it is. I put a good amount of effort into looking good, and because of it, I can get away with being a total jerk the vast majority of the time. SNL did this skit with Tom Brady that is very true... and also very funny. http://patriots.fandome.com/video/98594/Tom-Brady-SNL-Sexual-Harassment-PSA/ Seen it before, but it's still funny and true. "See, it can be done. You can have sex with women at work without losing your job, by following a few simple rules. Be handsome. Be attractive. And don't be unattractive". Hilarious.
Alter ego Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Look, if your good looking and you hit on a girl... it makes her feel pretty. If your ugly and you hit on a girl... you just creeped her out. I have a friend who is fairly ugly. He really can't approach women the same way I do. Think of it like this, women are much more shallow in first meeting someone than men are, however, afterwards they are much less shallow. I think it's an instinct designed for safety. Yes, some women are strange creatures. They believe it reflects poorly on them if a guy they do not find attractive asks them out. And they say men have fragile egos.
GoodOnPaper Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 So the "normal" ones don't need to do much to get women, whether confident or otherwise. But the "not so normal" ones need to try harder. Sounds like what you picture as the "normal" guy is actually the top 1-2%. I don't think the "average" guy has women throwing themselves at him.
thegreatmoose Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Sounds like what you picture as the "normal" guy is actually the top 1-2%. I don't think the "average" guy has women throwing themselves at him. I've never had women throw themsevles at me and I'm probably somewhere around average in terms of appearance. It's all so unpredictable though. What's attractive to one is ugly to another.
D-Jam Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Why is it that some unappealing and creepy men think they are allowed to hit on a girl on the streets? Why is it that eligible and normal men don't do that? Do unappealing and creepy men have more confidence than perfectly normal men? They're so used to rejection that they just decide to take chances. The eligible and normal men are more fearful, or they're adhering to that "make her come to you" mentality. Or they're all taken (and you think they aren't) and thus your only choice are the unappealing and creepy men.
cognac Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 As has been said, creepy and unappealing can mean different things to different women. If a "normal" man says something to you and you take it either differently than he meant or as he meant...but it struck you as crass, rude or lewd at that time, he then becomes creepy and unappealing. If that same man said a similar comment to a woman who found him appealing, then she would take it differently. There are comments that I can make to my wife or someone who knows me and these comments will be taken as either funny or even flirty. If I made those same comments to a woman who did not know me, then she would consider me creepy. A while back my wife was looking at People's sexy man issue. She was labeling men as yuck or yes. And interesting to me was how she considered not only their lucks in many cases...but the stories of who they are. So if a guy was in the news for cheating on his wife, he was no longer as handsome to her. So it is here I think. "Creepy and unappealing" can be what a man gets labeled if he makes comments that come off that way. If that same man were to be known as a "normal" man and then made such a comment, then it would either put him in the creepy category or it would be taken as okay knowing who he is. Just my 2c. LOL! Wow your wife is so noble, putting looks at #2 to personality, it must be hard to do that when you are picking from People's Sexist Men in the world. It's not that women don't care about looks. It's that they care about looks and personality (more like money, power, status) equally. You're still creepy if you're an average looking good guy with not a lot of money or power.
b52s Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 As has been said, creepy and unappealing can mean different things to different women. If a "normal" man says something to you and you take it either differently than he meant or as he meant...but it struck you as crass, rude or lewd at that time, he then becomes creepy and unappealing. If that same man said a similar comment to a woman who found him appealing, then she would take it differently. There are comments that I can make to my wife or someone who knows me and these comments will be taken as either funny or even flirty. If I made those same comments to a woman who did not know me, then she would consider me creepy. A while back my wife was looking at People's sexy man issue. She was labeling men as yuck or yes. And interesting to me was how she considered not only their lucks in many cases...but the stories of who they are. So if a guy was in the news for cheating on his wife, he was no longer as handsome to her. So it is here I think. "Creepy and unappealing" can be what a man gets labeled if he makes comments that come off that way. If that same man were to be known as a "normal" man and then made such a comment, then it would either put him in the creepy category or it would be taken as okay knowing who he is. Just my 2c. I spoke with a female friend that said it's LEGITIMATELY creepy when the guy doesn't take no for an answer. Otherwise he's just a guy approaching you.
JamesM Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 LOL! Wow your wife is so noble, putting looks at #2 to personality, it must be hard to do that when you are picking from People's Sexist Men in the world. It's not that women don't care about looks. It's that they care about looks and personality (more like money, power, status) equally. You're still creepy if you're an average looking good guy with not a lot of money or power. She put the two side by side. And yes, I was surprised that it mattered that much. To me, deciding what someone looks like based on a picture should tell you whether they are sexy or not. George Clooney was sexy. Now there is a player. Yet some other guys did not get so "lucky." I can guarantee that if I approached a stranger in the street and said how beautiful her eyes are, then she would say thanks and give me that look....which would be interpreted as either (1) you are a dirty old man (if I am older) or (2) what do you want? Would I be considered creepy in both cases? Probably. And if they saw my wedding band, then yes. I guess I am wondering what defines unappealing and creepy? Is it only looks? or does the comments being made actually help define them as creepy and unappealing? Just curious.
boogieboy Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 yes but it's also frustrating when all you get is salmon and trout as opposed to that yummy looking tuna you keep thinking about. When youre a salmon or trout, you only attract salmon or trout. Yummy tuna can go for yummy tuna.
AD1980 Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 She put the two side by side. And yes, I was surprised that it mattered that much. To me, deciding what someone looks like based on a picture should tell you whether they are sexy or not. George Clooney was sexy. Now there is a player. Yet some other guys did not get so "lucky." I can guarantee that if I approached a stranger in the street and said how beautiful her eyes are, then she would say thanks and give me that look....which would be interpreted as either (1) you are a dirty old man (if I am older) or (2) what do you want? Would I be considered creepy in both cases? Probably. And if they saw my wedding band, then yes. I guess I am wondering what defines unappealing and creepy? Is it only looks? or does the comments being made actually help define them as creepy and unappealing? Just curious. Yes a bad personality can make soembody tbut at first glance women judge creepy by face the fact that women are such shallow and insecure creautres that an ugly man somehow makes a women feel bad hitting on her and a good looking guy hitting on her makes her fele pretty..
AD1980 Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 When youre a salmon or trout, you only attract salmon or trout. Yummy tuna can go for yummy tuna. Bingo I think allot of women have a sense of entitlement and think theyre better looking then they actually are.. They get approached so much by these "undesirables" that they think to themselves well i must be good lookig its only a matter of time till the 10's approach me meanwhile theyre maybe average looking at best themselves..
D-Jam Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 There is truth to that. If the only men she's attracting are the creepy or unappealing men, then it speaks loudly as to what choices she has in reality...despite if she thinks she can find better. Same goes for men. If all you get are fatties and fuglies showing you interest and the average and hot women aren't...then it speaks loudly as to what you can and can't get. Maybe for either gender it would mean choosing from what's available, or choosing to remain single, or hitting the gym and dressing better to be able to attract that "better" that you want.
b52s Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 There is truth to that. If the only men she's attracting are the creepy or unappealing men, then it speaks loudly as to what choices she has in reality...despite if she thinks she can find better. Same goes for men. If all you get are fatties and fuglies showing you interest and the average and hot women aren't...then it speaks loudly as to what you can and can't get. Maybe for either gender it would mean choosing from what's available, or choosing to remain single, or hitting the gym and dressing better to be able to attract that "better" that you want. Right, if you're a fattie yourself, and all you get are fatties asking you out, chances are, you're goint to have to change your options and date the fatties.
carhill Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I think allot of women have a sense of entitlement and think theyre better looking then they actually are.. One sees extreme examples of the psychology of this when celebrities begin to 'believe their own press' and that their shyte doesn't stink any more. Intellect is overridden by ego and one can begin to believe they are a goddess (or god) to the other gender, or to 'mere humans', in other cases. As long as humans are social animals, this potential exists, unappealing or normal as it might be. Enjoy
AD1980 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 One sees extreme examples of the psychology of this when celebrities begin to 'believe their own press' and that their shyte doesn't stink any more. Intellect is overridden by ego and one can begin to believe they are a goddess (or god) to the other gender, or to 'mere humans', in other cases. As long as humans are social animals, this potential exists, unappealing or normal as it might be. Enjoy i agree..People can ge tfull of themsleves even when theyres very little reaosn too
D-Jam Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 In the end though, one shouldn't complain about such men or women. Just move on...take them out of your dating pool. Usually they will end up screwing themselves in the long run when they can't find Mr or Ms Right. When anyone who fits their standards either doesn't want them or doesn't exist. This is not a "bitter" statement...but more telling men and women to move on and seek out mates who don't play these games with themselves or others. I see too many bring this up at times and it makes me feel like they're complaining about why all the "hot" eligible singles set the bar so unbelievably high and usually end up "settling" or hooking up with liars. Best not to dwell.
Johnny M Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Why is it that some unappealing and creepy men think they are allowed to hit on a girl on the streets? Why is it that eligible and normal men don't do that? Do unappealing and creepy men have more confidence than perfectly normal men? An even better question is why do unappealing women expect to be hit on by appealing guys?
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