threebyfate Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 It's oh so easy to be negative, insulting and predatory. All these things take less than nothing, to accomplish. The reason why, is that there's no real emotional investment and in many ways, it's highly self-indulgent. So for people to believe that being a player is cool, nah, just cowardly and self-indulgent. But hey, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round!
BookerT Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 This book would solve many of the issues some women in this thread have. I've bought it for all of my (female) cousins upon high school graduation since the week it came out. http://www.amazon.com/Act-Like-Lady-Think-Relationships/dp/0061728977 Not to throw guys in general under the bus, but it really is a good read for any girls/women in your life you wouldn't want getting hurt (yourselves included). Sorry but as a guy I have to say, act like a lady, think like a man is a piece of crap. For one thing, Steve did sugar coat the truth, and some of his views are like 1950's garbage. Get below 40, and preferably a player to write the book......
rateyes Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 It's oh so easy to be negative, insulting and predatory. All these things take less than nothing, to accomplish. The reason why, is that there's no real emotional investment and in many ways, it's highly self-indulgent. So for people to believe that being a player is cool, nah, just cowardly and self-indulgent. But hey, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round! well thats cool and all, but msot dont care. Me personally, ive been hurt 8 times, not one single damn time was it in a respectable dignified manner. So i could really care less if i seem cowardly and self-indulgent. This could change, but im tired of respecting with none in return.
threebyfate Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 well thats cool and all, but msot dont care. Me personally, ive been hurt 8 times, not one single damn time was it in a respectable dignified manner. So i could really care less if i seem cowardly and self-indulgent. This could change, but im tired of respecting with none in return.Were these actual relationships or just dating situations? If they were relationships, how long did they last?
Yukikazi Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 All the women swoon for a bond type guy.. charming and charismatic.. But they all also know his "history" of loving women and not having a lasting relationship.. As was discovered due to Vesper betraying him when he loved her. She broke him.. he turned around and stopped caring for women due to this... Do they know the slut may be using them? Yes but they don't necessarily care because they are getting the fantasy right then.Most women aren't stupid.. they know they are getting gamed... they just don't care
rateyes Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Were these actual relationships or just dating situations? If they were relationships, how long did they last? dating situations. i legitimately thought she was into me, and i was really into them to the point i wanted to ask about exclusively and i get ripped to shreds. 5/8 girls approached me. i never woulda even talked to them had they not approached me. they approached and then proceeded to hurt. So basically they talked to me to make themselfs feel better and when they did left me out to dry. and as i said, these wernt girls people expected to do that, all my friends were surprised to see these girls do that to me example: a girl got my number from a friend, and started texting me cuz she liked me(friend said thats why she wanted my number). wanted to hang out, we hung out alot, ALOT of flirting went on. she wanted to date me. she went away for a week(i realized howm uch i liked her when she was gone, and wanted to ask her to be my GF), she came back, wouldnt return any of my texts, and when i saw in person she ignored me, even when i said hi and appraoched her she wouldnt look at me. She had broken up with a BF 3 weeks prior to the first text and i didnt know this. BAsically she used me as rebound to have someone talk her nicely and make her feel good. I stopped complimenting girls after this same situation happened twice, with two separate girls. im not a girls ego booster. Edited December 9, 2009 by rateyes
BookerT Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 All the women swoon for a bond type guy.. charming and charismatic.. But they all also know his "history" of loving women and not having a lasting relationship.. As was discovered due to Vesper betraying him when he loved her. She broke him.. he turned around and stopped caring for women due to this... Do they know the slut may be using them? Yes but they don't necessarily care because they are getting the fantasy right then.Most women aren't stupid.. they know they are getting gamed... they just don't care I think this is pretty accurate.
Woggle Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Steve Harvey is a black version of Paul Reiser or Ray Romano. This means that he is an unfunny man who for some unknown has had success dishing out crap about relationships that does not apply to the real world.
deux ex machina Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Steve Harvey is a black version of Paul Reiser or Ray Romano. This means that he is an unfunny man who for some unknown has had success dishing out crap about relationships that does not apply to the real world. Haha. I agree with you there.
muse08 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I am sooo pleased to see that someone else thought enough about this topic to start a thread. I was literally about to start one asking "WHY MEN CHEAT", but this should suffice. No, being a player DOES NOT help the community. It starts a viscous cycle and affects even the children who WE bring into this world. When women are cheated on and treated less than "queenlike", the breed unhealthy thoughts and actions. Whether married or just dating, so many women have adopted and ADAPTED to the player mentality and it's so SAD. We women are not all the same, but I truly understand why some of us have ADOPTED, yet I will never agree with 'adapting'. MEN))) Do you realize that when you treat women like they're just a bus passing by and you can just hop on another at any given time, this perpetuates hate in this world? Women breed LIFE into the world. When you cheat it causes divorce. Divorce causes fatherless kids(or broken homes in general). Why marry if you know you can't keep it in your pants! Check out the news lately...All these men with so many different women at one time. Why???! And the news only talks about the famous people, there are still overwhelming amounts of men doing just the same. What is this world coming to?
threebyfate Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 dating situations. i legitimately thought she was into me, and i was really into them to the point i wanted to ask about exclusively and i get ripped to shreds. 5/8 girls approached me. i never woulda even talked to them had they not approached me. they approached and then proceeded to hurt. So basically they talked to me to make themselfs feel better and when they did left me out to dry. and as i said, these wernt girls people expected to do that, all my friends were surprised to see these girls do that to me example: a girl got my number from a friend, and started texting me cuz she liked me(friend said thats why she wanted my number). wanted to hang out, we hung out alot, ALOT of flirting went on. she wanted to date me. she went away for a week(i realized howm uch i liked her when she was gone, and wanted to ask her to be my GF), she came back, wouldnt return any of my texts, and when i saw in person she ignored me, even when i said hi and appraoched her she wouldnt look at me. She had broken up with a BF 3 weeks prior to the first text and i didnt know this. BAsically she used me as rebound to have someone talk her nicely and make her feel good. I stopped complimenting girls after this same situation happened twice, with two separate girls. im not a girls ego booster.rateyes, I get the impression that you're pretty young. Young girls aren't yet emotionally stable, since they're just learning the power of their...errr...ladybits. So yes, they're going to play and probably burn a few in the process. Guys go through this too, where they flex their dominance and control, until they learn not to over-react and where to stop pushing. I'm going to give you some advice and that's not to take dating so seriously and painfully, at least until you've sown your wild oats and are finally tired of dating. This doesn't mean you have to be an ass about it. It sincerely is too easy to be predatory but there's no real power in it. Real power comes from internal strength, the strength to bounce back without bitterness.
BookerT Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I am sooo pleased to see that someone else thought enough about this topic to start a thread. I was literally about to start one asking "WHY MEN CHEAT", but this should suffice. No, being a player DOES NOT help the community. It starts a viscous cycle and affects even the children who WE bring into this world. When women are cheated on and treated less than "queenlike", the breed unhealthy thoughts and actions. Whether married or just dating, so many women have adopted and ADAPTED to the player mentality and it's so SAD. We women are not all the same, but I truly understand why some of us have ADOPTED, yet I will never agree with 'adapting'. MEN))) Do you realize that when you treat women like they're just a bus passing by and you can just hop on another at any given time, this perpetuates hate in this world? Women breed LIFE into the world. When you cheat it causes divorce. Divorce causes fatherless kids(or broken homes in general). Why marry if you know you can't keep it in your pants! Check out the news lately...All these men with so many different women at one time. Why???! And the news only talks about the famous people, there are still overwhelming amounts of men doing just the same. What is this world coming to? See when I read this I have to go with Woggle and ask, why is it so many women punish men for treating them well, and love the players? As men we feel this nice guy finish last treatment. It pays to not give a crap.
TheLoneSock Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Anyone hating on it that hasn't actually read it has no basis. It's not supposed to be a work of art, he's not a writer, he is a comedian. The point of it, as with all advice, is to take from it what you can and leave the rest. There are good points in it. Silly pessimists.
rateyes Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 rateyes, I get the impression that you're pretty young. Young girls aren't yet emotionally stable, since they're just learning the power of their...errr...ladybits. So yes, they're going to play and probably burn a few in the process. Guys go through this too, where they flex their dominance and control, until they learn not to over-react and where to stop pushing. I'm going to give you some advice and that's not to take dating so seriously and painfully, at least until you've sown your wild oats and are finally tired of dating. This doesn't mean you have to be an ass about it. It sincerely is too easy to be predatory but there's no real power in it. Real power comes from internal strength, the strength to bounce back without bitterness. while i respect that, i honestly dont care much now. respect has got me nothing so far. i dont care about power. im just droppin the respect aspect i have for women, its getting me nowhere but hurt. im tired of being the "mature" one and moving on.
rateyes Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I am sooo pleased to see that someone else thought enough about this topic to start a thread. I was literally about to start one asking "WHY MEN CHEAT", but this should suffice. No, being a player DOES NOT help the community. It starts a viscous cycle and affects even the children who WE bring into this world. When women are cheated on and treated less than "queenlike", the breed unhealthy thoughts and actions. Whether married or just dating, so many women have adopted and ADAPTED to the player mentality and it's so SAD. We women are not all the same, but I truly understand why some of us have ADOPTED, yet I will never agree with 'adapting'. MEN))) Do you realize that when you treat women like they're just a bus passing by and you can just hop on another at any given time, this perpetuates hate in this world? Women breed LIFE into the world. When you cheat it causes divorce. Divorce causes fatherless kids(or broken homes in general). Why marry if you know you can't keep it in your pants! Check out the news lately...All these men with so many different women at one time. Why???! And the news only talks about the famous people, there are still overwhelming amounts of men doing just the same. What is this world coming to? most guys i know are that way because women treat guys like ****...why is the guys fault?
muse08 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Most women aren't stupid.. they know they are getting gamed... they just don't care Right most women aren't stupid, but they DO care... Who wants to be screwed over and made succeptable to different diseases and spirits...Some people don't even realize that when you have sex with someone your spirits intertwine.That's real talk, whether you believe it or not. So when you feel like your spirit is drained after being screwed and not called the next few days, one reason is because that other dude/chic's spirit is not 'right' and they obviously do not have your best interest at heart.
TheLoneSock Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Some people don't even realize that when you have sex with someone your spirits intertwine.That's real talk, whether you believe it or not. Care to elaborate more on that? I'm not making fun of you.
muse08 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 See when I read this I have to go with Woggle and ask, why is it so many women punish men for treating them well, and love the players? As men we feel this nice guy finish last treatment. It pays to not give a crap. I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting that women are going out being players b/c of what the past guy did. I'm saying that once they find out that their CURRENT man is cheating and he tries to make things right or he's not being upfront about it, a woman will pick up on signs and follow their intuition. That...causes people to become bitter and not give a crap about you. Why, because you didn't give a crap about their feelings enough to be honest or to just not cheat from the jump.
threebyfate Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 All the women swoon for a bond type guy.. charming and charismatic.. But they all also know his "history" of loving women and not having a lasting relationship.. As was discovered due to Vesper betraying him when he loved her. She broke him.. he turned around and stopped caring for women due to this... Do they know the slut may be using them? Yes but they don't necessarily care because they are getting the fantasy right then.Most women aren't stupid.. they know they are getting gamed... they just don't careSure, some of us like Bond but he's just a fantasy character, which we're also aware of. Comparing Bond to real life men, is like women being threatened by fantasy porn stars. I say to both...get real...
muse08 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Care to elaborate more on that? I'm not making fun of you. No offense taken... When you are with someone and especially when you are sexual with someone, (MY BELIEF IS THAT) your spirits become apart of one another. Similar theory: The situation where when you walk into a room feeling fine/great/etc. then all of a sudden, after being around the negative gossip or speaking to someone negative, you leave the room feeling absolutely drained...Same concept when 2, 3 or 4 (whatever your preference) people have sex or not even sex just very intimate relations even.
TheLoneSock Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 No offense taken... When you are with someone and especially when you are sexual with someone, (MY BELIEF IS THAT) your spirits become apart of one another. Similar theory: The situation where when you walk into a room feeling fine/great/etc. then all of a sudden, after being around the negative gossip or speaking to someone negative, you leave the room feeling absolutely drained...Same concept when 2, 3 or 4 (whatever your preference) people have sex or not even sex just very intimate relations even. Not to shoot this down, because I consider myself atleast a somewhat religious person and spiritual; but wouldn't this be more closely related the chemicals released by the brain? Powerfull stuff. Perhaps a topic for a new thread so we don't hijack this one.
Yukikazi Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 No offense taken... When you are with someone and especially when you are sexual with someone, (MY BELIEF IS THAT) your spirits become apart of one another. So you think 2 drunk ppl getting it on standing up in a dirty alley is a bonding of spirits eh?
rateyes Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Not to shoot this down, because I consider myself atleast a somewhat religious person and spiritual; but wouldn't this be more closely related the chemicals released by the brain? Powerfull stuff. Perhaps a topic for a new thread so we don't hijack this one. exactly, big release of testosterone and estrogen, and other chemicals to get you ready to 'further the human species'...
Yukikazi Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 exactly, big release of testosterone and estrogen, and other chemicals to get you ready to 'further the human species'... He is referring to endorphins and Oxycontin actually Testosterone is not a feel good pleasure chemical
Woggle Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Men tend to be results oriented meaning that if we want to acheive something we take the action that will produce that outcome. When men see over and over again that being the good and faithful man that women clain to want and clain doesn't exist gets them nothing but a broken heart they start to take different path. I have pretty much lost all sympathy for women complain that no good men around because chances are she has probably curshed the hearts of a few good men herself.
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