Women: Male shirtless photos on dating sites

[V.Vixen]

I automatically leave the profile if there is a shirtless picture. It screams that they are just looking for sex. The shirtless ones are also the ones who sent the lovely "U R hot. Wanna chat?" messages with no substance. NEXT!

[dreamergrl]

They know exactly what they are doing. They are weeding out the "prudes".

 

I'm no prude. Well lately a little bit of a prude, but I've never liked shirtless pictures on a dating site.

 

Wtf? So apparently it's fine if a guy is a retarded amount taller than you but God forbid if he actually has muscle and not just long bones.

 

Wtf is a shorter guy supposed to do? Girls don't like you if you aren't at least average height, there's no way to increase height, they think it's weird if you wear lifts, and you can't try to build muscle to try to make up for the height because they think it's "overbearing." stupid.

 

Get over your shortness.

 

And yes, short and very muscular is not sexy!

[cognac]

If you have trouble getting dates, and I am not accusing nor judging, but if you are... I have just identified one of the reasons.[/Quote]

 

Get real Bejita. Take a walk to the beach in the summer, who are the guys surrounded with all the chicks? It's the ones with the magazine bodies. I don't know what experience you guys have that women are some kind of romance Mother Theresa who don't look at looks and look at the beauty of your soul or some other stupid cliche If you have a nice body, you're going to atleast have casual sexual encounters with women if you show it off.

 

 

This is likely true, but shirtless pictures are far more likely to hinder than to help, regardless of physique.

 

I disagree completely. If you have a picture of yourself shirtless it will surely grab the attention of the vast majority of women. I would suggest someone here do an experiment, one of a guy who is shirtless and has a very beautiful body, and one of a guy who is average looking and has his shirt on but the same exact profile. Are you going to seriously suggest it won't make a difference, or *snicker* that women will date the "modest" average guy

[dreamergrl]

Get real Bejita. Take a walk to the beach in the summer, who are the guys surrounded with all the chicks? It's the ones with the magazine bodies. I don't know what experience you guys have that women are some kind of romance Mother Theresa who don't look at looks and look at the beauty of your soul or some other stupid cliche If you have a nice body, you're going to atleast have casual sexual encounters with women if you show it off.

 

 

 

 

I disagree completely. If you have a picture of yourself shirtless it will surely grab the attention of the vast majority of women. I would suggest someone here do an experiment, one of a guy who is shirtless and has a very beautiful body, and one of a guy who is average looking and has his shirt on but the same exact profile. Are you going to seriously suggest it won't make a difference, or *snicker* that women will date the "modest" average guy

 

Right, because what do us women on here know? Why is it that you think you know better then us? The women the guy with the shirtless picture will attract is the women who don't care if they are just used for sex.

[threebyfate]

While online dating has never been my thing, pics of shirtless men scream "Here's my priority, now send me some nude pics of yourself. Your body is all that matters to me" and "Give me ATTENTION, since I think I'm so hawt".

 

It's tasteless, just like breast pics.

 

Most women don't think like men, which is why the vast majority of porn, is geared to and consumed by men.

[cognac]

Right, because what do us women on here know? Why is it that you think you know better then us? The women the guy with the shirtless picture will attract is the women who don't care if they are just used for sex.

 

Very simple, because what women say they'd do is almost the polar opposite of what women actually do. I find it very hard and going against EVERYTHING I have seen with my own two eyes what women here are saying, that a guy showing off his attractive body is such a big dealbreaker.

 

Regardless of who it attracts, there's a good chance the guy with the shirt will attract nobody (unless he is very tall or rich), while the shirtless guy will get something.

 

I doubt all those empty headed guidos would work out if it DIDN'T make a huge difference with women. The choir of holier than thou women who are so moral in their choice of men would go weak at the knees for some jacked monster with an 8 pack and extremely broad shoulders, most speak ill of them because they don't think they will be interested in them as plain janes .

[threebyfate]

Very simple, because what women say they'd do is almost the polar opposite of what women actually do. I find it very hard and going against EVERYTHING I have seen with my own two eyes what women here are saying, that a guy showing off his attractive body is such a big dealbreaker.

 

Regardless of who it attracts, there's a good chance the guy with the shirt will attract nobody (unless he is very tall or rich), while the shirtless guy will get something.

 

I doubt all those empty headed guidos would work out if it DIDN'T make a huge difference with women. The choir of holier than thou women who are so moral in their choice of men would go weak at the knees for some jacked monster with an 8 pack and extremely broad shoulders, most speak ill of them because they don't think they will be interested in them as plain janes .

cognac, as someone with little to no experience with women, how in the world do you have any idea how we think?

 

Your attitudes towards women are built on fallacies and Internet bitter mens' experiences. Get some real experience with women under your belt before judging women. The only problem is that with your attitude, you'll just self-sabotage any possibility of ever finding anyone worthwhile, since sane women will be turned off.

[cognac]

While online dating has never been my thing, pics of shirtless men scream "Here's my priority, now send me some nude pics of yourself. Your body is all that matters to me" and "Give me ATTENTION, since I think I'm so hawt".

 

It's tasteless, just like breast pics.

 

Most women don't think like men, which is why the vast majority of porn, is geared to and consumed by men.

 

 

Again the non-sense that women are somehow more refined in their attraction towards men. Women don't watch porn because it is blatantly aimed at a male demographic, there is no equivalent of porn aimed towards women as of yet. Not to mention most women who do watch porn will never admit to it in public.

 

However, this doesn't mean women aren't as attracted to very muscular male bodies. When is the last time the cover of one of those dumb romance novels women buy in the droves had a guy who wasn't shirtless?! Or a guy with an average body build?

[threebyfate]

Again the non-sense that women are somehow more refined in their attraction towards men. Women don't watch porn because it is blatantly aimed at a male demographic, there is no equivalent of porn aimed towards women as of yet. Not to mention most women who do watch porn will never admit to it in public.

 

However, this doesn't mean women aren't as attracted to very muscular male bodies. When is the last time the cover of one of those dumb romance novels women buy in the droves had a guy who wasn't shirtless?! Or a guy with an average body build?

cognac, most of us don't think like men. That is all...

[dreamergrl]

I don't even read romance novels. I'm a James Patterson kind of girl.

 

I really don't understand, Cognac, how you can say you know what women think when you aren't us. You're ideas and proclaiming that it is this way or what way must have a lot to do with your failure with women. If we say we are not attracted to shirtless pictures on a dating site, we mean it. We have no reason to lie about it or hide it. It's just a forum.

[cognac]

cognac, as someone with little to no experience with women, how in the world do you have any idea how we think?[/Quote]

 

I have plenty of experience with women actually, both as acquaintances and lovers. If anything, the more experience one has with women, the more "bitter" you become if that's what you want to call it (I say it's calling a spade a spade). Lord Byron, Napoleon, and all other great champions of women were downright misogynists.

 

Your attitudes towards women are built on fallacies and Internet bitter mens' experiences. Get some real experience with women under your belt before judging women. The only problem is that with your attitude, you'll just self-sabotage any possibility of ever finding anyone worthwhile, since sane women will be turned off.

 

I just don't understand why you women feel the need to hide the truth, as if there is something to be ashamed in what you are or how you feel. Do you realize how laughable it is for you women to say you would count a guy out because he shows off his six pack in a picture? If tomorrow that very guy messaged any of you you would all atleast meet him for coffee (and maybe more). First hand real experience, seeing the entire dating scene with my own two eyes, is worth far more than what some anonymous internet people who have all probably been with the muscly studs at one point or another, claim is what they'd do.

[V.Vixen]

Get real Bejita. Take a walk to the beach in the summer, who are the guys surrounded with all the chicks? It's the ones with the magazine bodies. I don't know what experience you guys have that women are some kind of romance Mother Theresa who don't look at looks and look at the beauty of your soul or some other stupid cliche If you have a nice body, you're going to atleast have casual sexual encounters with women if you show it off.

 

 

 

 

I disagree completely. If you have a picture of yourself shirtless it will surely grab the attention of the vast majority of women. I would suggest someone here do an experiment, one of a guy who is shirtless and has a very beautiful body, and one of a guy who is average looking and has his shirt on but the same exact profile. Are you going to seriously suggest it won't make a difference, or *snicker* that women will date the "modest" average guy

 

This can be compared to the girl who walks around in a thong bikini with her breasts completely exposed, naturally she would get more attention. The thing is that most women are not seeking someone to have sex with in an online dating scenario, they are looking for companionship. Women who are looking for more than sex are going to put personality and charisma before rock hard abs/pecs.

[threebyfate]

I don't even read romance novels. I'm a James Patterson kind of girl.

 

I really don't understand, Cognac, how you can say you know what women think when you aren't us. You're ideas and proclaiming that it is this way or what way must have a lot to do with your failure with women. If we say we are not attracted to shirtless pictures on a dating site, we mean it. We have no reason to lie about it or hide it. It's just a forum.

I also don't read that garbage, but don't have a definitive genre. Some fiction, some non-fiction, reliant on mood.

 

It's like cognac is trapped within his own thought processes, that people must look at life in exactly the same way he does, or he fears and mistrusts them. While everyone has a component of this, his fears are obsessive and clumps women all into one bucket, hence misogynistic, due to gross generalizations. For someone who so strongly emphasizes intellect, his thought processes are rooted in negative emotionalism, therefore, about as far away from intellectualism, as you can possibly get.

 

And once again, shirtless pics of strange men on a dating site, aren't attractive. They smack of issues.

[dreamergrl]

I also don't read that garbage, but don't have a definitive genre. Some fiction, some non-fiction, reliant on mood.

 

It's like cognac is trapped within his own thought processes, that people must look at life in exactly the same way he does, or he fears and mistrusts them. While everyone has a component of this, his fears are obsessive and clumps women all into one bucket, hence misogynistic, due to gross generalizations. For someone who so strongly emphasizes intellect, his thought processes are rooted in negative emotionalism, therefore, about as far away from intellectualism, as you can possibly get.

 

Hence the "You women" crap.

[You'reasian]

Guys like that make the mistake of thinking that women as a whole think like men do, and they do not.

 

They do, but not exactly.

 

Women like certain things on a mens body to be large, no?

[Pizzaman81]

I actually wouldn't talk to a girl if her profile pic is zoomed on her cleavage or she tries to wear as little clothes as possible.

 

That just screams out to me as "No future, no plans"

[You'reasian]

This can be compared to the girl who walks around in a thong bikini with her breasts completely exposed, naturally she would get more attention. The thing is that most women are not seeking someone to have sex with in an online dating scenario, they are looking for companionship. Women who are looking for more than sex are going to put personality and charisma before rock hard abs/pecs.

 

Women will show off what they believe to be their best physical assets are because we are such a visual society. Men do the same obviously.

 

It also depends on the type and nature of the dating profile she is using for her dating pools:

 

she may have a more personalized, conservative profile on match.com for instance that sells her personality, beliefs, expectations

 

and she might have a profile on a more adult dating site that shows off her more physical assets.

 

She's drumming up her numbers.

[dudet]

Personally, I find them a complete turn off. I've never dated anyone from online, but I've looked through the profiles. There have been a couple guys I thought were cute and had a good profile until I saw the shirtless picture. They had good bodies of course, but it seems like the male equivalent of posting a shot of your cleavage (tasteless). I don't mind ones taken at the beach or swimming pool. They seem much less gratuitous.

 

What do you ladies think?

 

im not a girl, but here is my thoughts. i see what some are saying, but just because a guy has a topless picture up, he is automatically labeled as "i want sex"? a bit judgmental eh

 

i don't think its too attractive to put up topless pics on dating sites, but are you claiming any guy who does this is up to no good? what about if a girl is on the site in a revealing tank top like im sure a lot of women do. you stereotype these men for being shirtless but you got your pics up looking semi slutty and like you are asking for it lol

[cognac]

Hey I didn't say I don't generalize, I do. But I only generalize based on evidence and first hand experience that most men will agree with: what a woman says she wants and what a woman actually wants are two completely different things. In fact, the woman herself may not even realize it! Like any scientific method, my theories (which prove themselves again and again in my every day life) are correct until hard evidence proves them wrong. I have yet to meet a woman who doesn't care about looks, status, sex appeal, whatever you want to call it, first , and personality second.

 

 

This can be compared to the girl who walks around in a thong bikini with her breasts completely exposed, naturally she would get more attention. The thing is that most women are not seeking someone to have sex with in an online dating scenario, they are looking for companionship. Women who are looking for more than sex are going to put personality and charisma before rock hard abs/pecs.

 

I disagree. Online dating is actually even MORE superficial than meeting women in real life. Women won't put charisma and personality before rock hard abs and pecs, they will look for a guy who has both.

 

Women like certain things on a mens body to be large, no?[/Quote]

 

Yes exactly. WHY would these guys post pictures like that in the first place, if it is such a huge gross turn off for women? You'll never see a picture of a guy picking his nose, or posing with his action figure collection. But virtually every guy with a nice body has atleast one picture on his profile of him shirtless (on facebook, myspace, and even online dating) and 1000 comments of women saying "omgg sooo hot".

[dreamergrl]

im not a girl, but here is my thoughts. i see what some are saying, but just because a guy has a topless picture up, he is automatically labeled as "i want sex"? a bit judgmental eh

 

i don't think its too attractive to put up topless pics on dating sites, but are you claiming any guy who does this is up to no good? what about if a girl is on the site in a revealing tank top like im sure a lot of women do. you stereotype these men for being shirtless but you got your pics up looking semi slutty and like you are asking for it lol

 

I don't think he's automatically labeled as that, but it gives off that impression. Just as if you saw a girl wearing less clothes then another, who'd give off the impression that they'd give up sex quicker?

 

And when it gets as bad as having a mirror shot, wearing just a towel, which is barely covering the hip area...

[dreamergrl]

And what about the shirtless pictures of them on a bed?? Flexing and kissing their arm?

[dudet]

And what about the shirtless pictures of them on a bed?? Flexing and kissing their arm?

 

yeah, not good thats extreme..but are you saying if one of those in fact contacted you, ask you out, you would turn him down?

[dreamergrl]

yeah, not good thats extreme..but are you saying if one of those in fact contacted you, ask you out, you would turn him down?

 

I wouldn't contact him. If he contacted me, it would GREATLY depend on what he has to say.

[dudet]

I wouldn't contact him. If he contacted me, it would GREATLY depend on what he has to say.

 

yes and many guys like that know how to play their game. you would start thinking ,ah maybe he is actually nice and stuff. you want to believe he is genuine. i have a feeling you would date him if he seemed alright...do you think most guys like that are actually going to admit they just want sex upfront?

[cognac]

yes and many guys like that know how to play their game. you would start thinking ,ah maybe he is actually nice and stuff. you want to believe he is genuine. i have a feeling you would date him if he seemed alright...do you think most guys like that are actually going to admit they just want sex upfront?

 

Regardless of all the poo pooing they're doing here, women will CONVINCE themselves that "oh he's not like that", because they like his muscles. A guy with big muscles and a six pack with a so-so personality will always get farther with a woman than a guy with an average or slender build and a great personality, the only difference is that women actually convince themselves that there is more to those guys than is actually there.

 

It's not to bash women, it's just the natural law. Women and men are animals, and put animal instincts (for women its the instinct to be dominated) over all human created values (good personality, charisma, etc). I'm sure women love to hang out with guys who are cool and funny, but they want sex with the muscle man who grunts a lot.