Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I look around me and it seems that there is simply no love between men and women anymore. You either have men married to women who have utter contempt and resentment towards them and mistreat them plus cheat on them left and right or you have the flip side which is players who use and mistreat women who keep coming coming back for more. It seems to me that real mutual love between men and women is going the way of the 8 track. Sure you have sexual attraction because that is wired into us but that is it. Does anybody else feel this way?
threebyfate Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I look around me and it seems that there is simply no love between men and women anymore. You either have men married to women who have utter contempt and resentment towards them and mistreat them plus cheat on them left and right or you have the flip side which is players who use and mistreat women who keep coming coming back for more. It seems to me that real mutual love between men and women is going the way of the 8 track. Sure you have sexual attraction because that is wired into us but that is it. Does anybody else feel this way?Is your marriage like this? I know mine isn't.
northstar1 Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I look around me and it seems that there is simply no love between men and women anymore. You either have men married to women who have utter contempt and resentment towards them and mistreat them plus cheat on them left and right or you have the flip side which is players who use and mistreat women who keep coming coming back for more. It seems to me that real mutual love between men and women is going the way of the 8 track. Sure you have sexual attraction because that is wired into us but that is it. Does anybody else feel this way? No, but you are looking one big panoramic mirror though.
donnamaybe Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 And here I thought you finally had a breakthrough some months ago, Woggle. I'm really disappointed.
Johnny M Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I look around me and it seems that there is simply no love between men and women anymore. You either have men married to women who have utter contempt and resentment towards them and mistreat them plus cheat on them left and right or you have the flip side which is players who use and mistreat women who keep coming coming back for more. It seems to me that real mutual love between men and women is going the way of the 8 track. Sure you have sexual attraction because that is wired into us but that is it. Does anybody else feel this way? This shouldn't come as a surprise. One of the purposes of religion (and religion-inspired moral codes) is to curtail typical human behavior that evidences itself as soon as the weight of public morality and religion is taken off one's shoulder. As much as I dislike religion, even I have to admit that it has a useful purpose. In the past, society instilled men with a sense of responsibility and women with a sense of loyalty and modesty. This was necessary because men are naturally irresponsible and women are naturally immodest and disloyal. With the breakdown of traditional morality, we are back to our natural opportunistic state of being.
neowulf Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Western culture has been encouraging a "Me first" attitude in it's children for a while now. I believe healthy, loving relationships can't occur when both parties are constantly attempting to put their own needs before the other persons. I think marriage used to work better, when people were less focused on "What's in this for me" and more focused on being good husbands and wives to each other. *shrug* We may fast be approaching the point where marriage and indeed long term relationships simply slide by the way side. That said, while it's getting harder.. I don't believe it's impossible to find the loving relation people are seeking.
LucreziaBorgia Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 IDoes anybody else feel this way? Not anymore. I finally found someone who changed my mind about it.
Ross PK Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I'm sure love still exists between a lot of men and women.
SoulSearch_CO Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Is love between men and women a dead concept? No, I don't think so.
Kasan Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I am beginning to wonder what thoughts are running through your head when you post these "provocative" rants. I wonder what you are getting out of this by starting these threads, and what you expect us all to say. I am sure you could probably quote us verbatim. Wogs, you will see what you want to see as you are stuck in one particular pattern of thinking. If you think about men hating women and the flip side of the equation, then you can bet that's all you will see. But if you are enjoying your spouse then you probably see couples that are holding hands and in love. Wogs, you create your own reality, and I really don't understand why you can't see this. At some time in your life, you are going to have to deal with your demons, as they are busily creating in you, what you despise and detest in others. I think you are too smart to let this happen, as you do know that this will destroy your marriage.
threebyfate Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 He's destroying himself and taking his wife down with him. I think his rant is about himself, finding excuses. I think he feels he made a mistake in getting married, since he's not in love with his wife, anymore.
EnigmaXOXO Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 He's destroying himself and taking his wife down with him. I agree. Poor Woggle is his own worst enemy.
Lizzie60 Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I look around me and it seems that there is simply no love between men and women anymore. You either have men married to women who have utter contempt and resentment towards them and mistreat them plus cheat on them left and right or you have the flip side which is players who use and mistreat women who keep coming coming back for more. It seems to me that real mutual love between men and women is going the way of the 8 track. Sure you have sexual attraction because that is wired into us but that is it. Does anybody else feel this way? Nope.. it's not the concept of love that is dead.. the problem is the length of time two people can stay 'in love'..
quankanne Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 you create your own reality yup. If you go out every day fishing in a cesspool, don't be surprised if the only "catch" you get is shxt. I don't think love is dead between a man and a woman who make up a couple, it just takes work to maintain a healthy relationship that reflects the love. Again, if all you're looking for is crap, then that's all you'll ever get. And Woggle, at this point, if you don't open your mind to other ways of thinking, you're only ever going to see crap.
AD1980 Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I dotn beleive in love i believe in a few year lust.. Its proven theyres no soulmate or only one peros ni nthe world wh owe could possily marry out there and people can fall in and out of love with numerous people becasue of how much we change
Author Woggle Posted December 5, 2009 Author Posted December 5, 2009 And here I thought you finally had a breakthrough some months ago, Woggle. I'm really disappointed. I thought I had a breakthrough and I really wanted to believe it but I am not a person who deals in fantasy. I deal with reality and reality is that there is a cold war between men and women and sadly I have to pick a side. I can either side with men or be eaten alive.
muse08 Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I am beginning to wonder what thoughts are running through your head when you post these "provocative" rants. I wonder what you are getting out of this by starting these threads, and what you expect us all to say. I am sure you could probably quote us verbatim. My thoughts exactly. I told him I think he's getting paid to start these threads...other than that he's getting nothing other than maybe satisfaction out of watching some of our feathers ruffle.
Author Woggle Posted December 5, 2009 Author Posted December 5, 2009 Neither one is motivation for why I post. Nobody else looks around and notices the fact that men and women pretty much hate each other nowadays and if it weren't for sexual attraction we would probably have gender segregation?
shadowplay Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I thought I had a breakthrough and I really wanted to believe it but I am not a person who deals in fantasy. I deal with reality and reality is that there is a cold war between men and women and sadly I have to pick a side. I can either side with men or be eaten alive. It sounds more like you're at war with yourself than anyone else.
muse08 Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 you create your own reality yup. If you go out every day fishing in a cesspool, don't be surprised if the only "catch" you get is shxt. I don't think love is dead between a man and a woman who make up a couple, it just takes work to maintain a healthy relationship that reflects the love. Again, if all you're looking for is crap, then that's all you'll ever get. And Woggle, at this point, if you don't open your mind to other ways of thinking, you're only ever going to see crap. You all have to be able to see through woggle's mask. He knows better than what he's pretending to know. I don't believe these are his true thoughts and feelings. I can't even feel any of his emotion in his words. It's like he's sitting back in the calmest manner watching us post in response to some of his askew comments.
muse08 Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) I dotn beleive in love i believe in a few year lust.. Its proven theyres no soulmate or only one peros ni nthe world wh owe could possily marry out there and people can fall in and out of love with numerous people becasue of how much we change So, basically whenever you date someone, you're probably just a stand-in. God forbid you ever marry someone...you're probably one step and a kiss away from being tossed by the wayside... I believe that people can find true love more than once. When things don't work out the first time, it's for a reason. It allows room to learn and meet someone who may love you more and without all the other mess that you once THOUGHT was true love. When people screw around with good people, that where problems arise. They were probably just never meant to be together. People allow "lust" to be the driving force and of course lust can not sustain a long term relationship. It can help if you additionally have love, but no one can live on lust and lust alone. Guys...this stuff is toxic if you're not careful. Edited December 5, 2009 by muse08
allina Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 reality is that there is a cold war between men and women and sadly I have to pick a side. I can either side with men or be eaten alive. You're wrong. I guarantee you that there is love between men and women, and I mean real, healthy, happy love
Author Woggle Posted December 5, 2009 Author Posted December 5, 2009 You're wrong. I guarantee you that there is love between men and women, and I mean real, healthy, happy love If there is I would like to see it.
allina Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 If there is I would like to see it. Come over to my house for dinner, you'll see it.
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