waltham781 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Driving to work today and thought it would be fun to open the debate a little in here on the whole Tiger mess. I'll kick it off with this. Why would any woman marry a man so high up on the social power ladder and not think it important enough to make sure they are both physically AND sexually connected at all times? Does anyone think that if she was indeed a Tiger of her own in the bedroom that none of this would have ever happened? ---or to put another way---- Why would a powerful man open himself to the idea of being in a trusting and monogamous marriage for the rest of his life knowing that the offers for sex that come his way are often too hard to turn down? Better yet, why not be upfront with this in the first place before you have the wedding?
EnigmasMuse Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 There is another post on Tiger in the Current Events section to, you might be interested in as well.
SophieA Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Yes! For sure blame his wife! We have NO idea what goes on in their bedroom/private lives. To make assumptions that she's wasn't doing her best is ridiculous.
JackJack Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I was just wondering when someone was going to come out of the woodworks and blame the wife, probably for it all! You do not know how his wife was in the bedroom, nor do anyone else, so to say that had she been a tiger in bed herself none of this would have happened, is ridiculas. Obviously if Tiger Woods was catting around with more than one woman, you could make the same assumption about them not being "tigers" in bed too.
angie2443 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Does it occur to anyone that highly successful people (successful in business, career, etc. but not marriage) get successful because they invest their time and energy in their career and not their family. There is often a kind of selfishness in these people in that they give their "all" to something that is completely about them. It is not that suprising that these people often cheat.
Samantha0905 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Driving to work today and thought it would be fun to open the debate a little in here on the whole Tiger mess. I'll kick it off with this. Why would any woman marry a man so high up on the social power ladder and not think it important enough to make sure they are both physically AND sexually connected at all times? Does anyone think that if she was indeed a Tiger of her own in the bedroom that none of this would have ever happened? Ummmm. Don't they have really small children? Even with that, why assume there is no sexual connection? Could it possibly be Tiger let the celebrity go to his head or he just prefers variety, in general? If he had affairs the entirety of their short marriage, he probably was seeing other people when he was dating his wife. ---or to put another way---- Why would a powerful man open himself to the idea of being in a trusting and monogamous marriage for the rest of his life knowing that the offers for sex that come his way are often too hard to turn down? Better yet, why not be upfront with this in the first place before you have the wedding?I wonder why he got married also -- unless frequent philanderers also want to have families -- kind of a cake and eat it too scenario. Just as an aside, did anyone notice his wife is more the "Jennifer Aniston" in the mix and the APs are "Angelina Jolies?" I'm talking appearance -- his wife seems to have a more sweet look and his lovers a real sexual look about them. Not that sweet isn't sexual, but the APs definitely look more come hither outwardly. Edited December 2, 2009 by Samantha0905
Author waltham781 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Posted December 2, 2009 Hey Samantha....very good observation. Each of the "other" women certainly have this club / vixen type look about them. And the one at home is like the complete opposite, almost home bound. At least he was consistent in his approach and honest with himself about which type of women he was going after. It kills me when guys cheat and their preference is all over the place ( which IMO shows total confusion about what they want).
dazzle22 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Where are the pics of the OW and latest details. The news I read yesterday was still murky about what transpired
JackJack Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Hey Samantha....very good observation. Each of the "other" women certainly have this club / vixen type look about them. And the one at home is like the complete opposite, almost home bound. At least he was consistent in his approach and honest with himself about which type of women he was going after. It kills me when guys cheat and their preference is all over the place ( which IMO shows total confusion about what they want). Who cares what kind or type of woman he CHOSE to cheat with, he stilled cheated. And I'm sure he felt entitled to do so.
Angel1111 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I think the saddest thing is that they have to deal with a lot of this publicly. I can't imagine how embarrassing this must be for him and his wife. I don't think it's necessarily an issue about his wife not being a good wife or even that he gets so many offers of sex. Maybe he and his wife are just mismatched and aren't compatible. What a lot of people don't realize about powerful people is that they're very driven, and men like that like to chase the women that are hard to get. I know this from experience. And they typically ignore and laugh at the women who throw themselves at them. As one man said to me when I told him that a woman was interested in him, "Tell her to get in line." I think in Tiger's case, the marriage is on the rocks and he turned to different women because of that - like a lot of men do. He's not a bad guy but he shouldn't have done what he did because he had to know it was going to come to light at some point. I would love to have Tiger's talent and money - but I absolutely would not want such a public life.
confusedinkansas Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I knew it was only a matter of time. My take........IT'S PRIVATE. Kudos to Tiger for not giving specifics in his interview. It's no one's business. Even if he is the highest paid athlete in the world. Blaming his wife for "Bedroom Performance/Lack of Sexual Connection" is a crock of Sh**T. And, again........No one's business. Personally - I'd like to see him not say another word about it - Because, as with most "Hollywood" scandals - It will blow over & I personally will not think any less of him for this. Guess it makes him HUMAN....Not the Super Human most people think he is.
Toodamnpragmatic Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 and opportunities abound everywhere he turns. He is a product of golf and has a wife straight from central casting. All golfers are the same, a blond wife, following them outside the ropes when they are in contention and then shoving the children into their awaiting arms when they win a tournament. Tiger had little experience (it was all golf, his father and school) or knew any different and is now in a whole lot of trouble with his marriage.
Author waltham781 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Posted December 2, 2009 Another interesting slant. Because Tiger was so wrapped up with Golf, his father and school, he missed out on all the partying and felt he was entitled to make up for it. His father helped his game grow for golf but when it came time to talk about drawing the line with one's own "game" the skill set was lacking. Should have told him this: "Don't ever cheat on your wife with someone else who has LESS to loose than you do." In Tiger's case, this would limit him tremendously.
PhoenixRise Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I think Tiger feels entitled...just like many politicians, entertainers, pro athletes, etc.. He is a very rich man who lives in the spotlight so women probably throw themselves at his feet and he is accustomed to having his pick. It has nothing to do with any flaw in his wife and I don't believe it has anything to do with compatibility problems with his wife...men who feel entitled will cheat no matter who they are married to. AND I would agree that this is a private matter except that Tiger Woods has made the bulk of his fortune based on his image and endorsements. He makes his money by being in the public spotlight...he can't complain now when that same spotlight is shining brightly on things he would rather people not know. AND at least one of his OW has sold her story to the tabloids. She saved 100's of texts, emails, pics etc in anticipation of the day she could cash in. Apparently she was in for more than just the Tiger Woods experience. If you really want things to be private...be realistic about the fact that some women may see you as a potential cash cow and meal ticket.
Samantha0905 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Who cares what kind or type of woman he CHOSE to cheat with, he stilled cheated. And I'm sure he felt entitled to do so. I just found it interesting he picked the same woman for both affairs. They looked a lot alike. It was merely an observation...... I don't know how he felt. I'm not him.
Agoraphobianebula Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 At the end of the day, he has only proven one thing and that is he is but a man. Men..women..people are going to do what they think they can get away with as long as they think they can get away with it. It is a plain lack of self control, something we all indulge in at various points and in varying portions in our day to day life. He merely showed that he has blood pumping through his veins..m'eh, what's tommorow's news?
Holding-On Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Does it occur to anyone that highly successful people (successful in business, career, etc. but not marriage) get successful because they invest their time and energy in their career and not their family. There is often a kind of selfishness in these people in that they give their "all" to something that is completely about them. It is not that suprising that these people often cheat. I think there is a great deal of truth to this. Well written Angie.
JackJack Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 Wow a third woman comes forth...his wife looks hotter than any of those OW to me. So of course its not always about about looks. I agree with you angie on the part about it being an entitlement issue. Some people have that issue whether they are a celeb or not. I also think it can be said for the people who are willing to cheat with these people as well.
pricillia Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 It is Tiger Woods he plays golf he is not a god, give me a break he is a regular man that wanted a little extra on the side, he obviously did not care what if wife thought... I doubt in thier marriage vows it stated he was allowed to cheat because he was Tiger Woods What is so wonderful about tiger woods http://www.webhush.com/wp-content/uploads/tiger_woods.jpg
RobM Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 It's not usually just about looks, I don't remember who said it but, for every hot woman out there, there is a guy that's tired of sleeping with her. From reading interviews with rock stars and pro athletes, in all honesty I don't think I could turn down non-stop hot women throwing themselves at me. It's easy for me, a middle aged average married guy not to cheat, all I have to do is not go looking for trouble, it never seems to just find me. If I had hot women throwing themselves at me, I would try really hard, but at some point I know I would give in. I thank god I don't have to have all my mistakes and screwups played out in the world press.
GroupFitness Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 It's not usually just about looks, I don't remember who said it but, for every hot woman out there, there is a guy that's tired of sleeping with her. From reading interviews with rock stars and pro athletes, in all honesty I don't think I could turn down non-stop hot women throwing themselves at me. It's easy for me, a middle aged average married guy not to cheat, all I have to do is not go looking for trouble, it never seems to just find me. If I had hot women throwing themselves at me, I would try really hard, but at some point I know I would give in. I thank god I don't have to have all my mistakes and screwups played out in the world press. I concur and would argue that 99% of these men have stepped out on their marriages/relationship. Many just haven't been caught yet. I won't delude myself to think that it's easy for men to turn down sex from young, supple, perky-breasted hot women. Many are only as faithful as their options. I don't fault Tiger one bit, it's ingrained in his DNA to desire multiple women and if these women readily flaunt themselves in his face, it takes enormous will power not to slip even once. His wife just need to go find herself a chippendale or pool boy and call it even. moving
TimH Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I would imagine Tigers real hurt will be if his wife decides to walk out on him and he has to pay out the rear for her share of money,property etc.
lonelyandfrustrated Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I read today that there's a $300m pre-nup, and she gets it in a case like this. I can already hear the ho's, "I'm a $300m piece of A!" No, you're not. Elin is. hahahaha.
carhill Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 Looks like he paid her 5MM to stay and attend marriage counseling with him, if the latest news reports are to be believed. Also, apparently the 20MM pre-nup 10 year marital payout is being upped in increments to 55MM. They've been married about 5 years IIRC. Interesting how it boils down to money
Chrome Barracuda Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 Driving to work today and thought it would be fun to open the debate a little in here on the whole Tiger mess. I'll kick it off with this. Why would any woman marry a man so high up on the social power ladder and not think it important enough to make sure they are both physically AND sexually connected at all times? Does anyone think that if she was indeed a Tiger of her own in the bedroom that none of this would have ever happened? ---or to put another way---- Why would a powerful man open himself to the idea of being in a trusting and monogamous marriage for the rest of his life knowing that the offers for sex that come his way are often too hard to turn down? Better yet, why not be upfront with this in the first place before you have the wedding? Men and woman cheat! even in good marriages. it's not her fault. Damn she just had the 2nd baby by him, it's his fault for not keeping it in his pants and his fault alone! And men and women with bigger egos and a sliver of power will often be tempted more than anyone else to cheat. It's all about the person who can withstand the temptation to not cheat on their loved ones. I just dont buy the if she was good in bed. crap. That's what alot of the waywards speak about on this site here. That's a load of crap. Tiger could just be a freaking sex maniac!
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