Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 touche! So many men are very dishonest with the rest of the world about their plight in a relationship. So are many women as well. It goes both ways.
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 lol...awww woggle...you're a funny guy. plenty of women TRULY love their guy! It is maybe 5% and that is a generous number. The others resent the hell out of their men or they don't hate him but feel they have settled.
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 Women's love almost always has an expiration date. You are married right? You can't really believe this, otherwise you wouldn't have gotten married. You have a trust issue so it's difficult for you to have faith in women, but logically you have to know than men cheat just as often (and more!) then women.
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 You are married right? You can't really believe this, otherwise you wouldn't have gotten married. You have a trust issue so it's difficult for you to have faith in women, but logically you have to know than men cheat just as often (and more!) then women. Women cheat just as much as men do. Yes I am married and while I love her and I have given her my heart I will always keep a string tied to my heart so I can snatch it back the minute she turns on me.
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 So are many women as well. It goes both ways. hmmm, perhaps. But more often than not it's the male. Women discuss the "real deal" all the time with their female counterparts. Men keep more stuff to themselves.
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 hmmm, perhaps. But more often than not it's the male. Women discuss the "real deal" all the time with their female counterparts. Men keep more stuff to themselves. Women are great at playing the victim when they are the one who cheated or verbally abused the men all the time. My ex goes around telling people that I beat her and raped her when neither one was true.
Boundary Problem Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Women cheat just as much as men do. Yes I am married and while I love her and I have given her my heart I will always keep a string tied to my heart so I can snatch it back the minute she turns on me. Where do you buy the string? I've been shopping and shopping for one, and have never seen that in the stores.
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 So are many women as well. It goes both ways. Exactly! BOTH ways... you keep talking as if women are mostly to blame. The flip side of your "generous" 5% would indicate 95% of us resent our men and are unhappy in our marriages. So what percentages do you attribute to the men? How many of them truly love their wives?
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Women cheat just as much as men do. Yes I am married and while I love her and I have given her my heart I will always keep a string tied to my heart so I can snatch it back the minute she turns on me. (You know what, I can actually respect woggle for saying this.) But wow, it's sad. So if you're walking around feeling this way what do you do? Do you have a chic on the side or do you show her less love and attention to make yourself feel better in case she stomps on your heart?
Boundary Problem Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 My ex goes around telling people that I beat her and raped her when neither one was true. Why would she do that? Sorry t/j
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Exactly! BOTH ways... you keep talking as if women are mostly to blame. The flip side of your "generous" 5% would indicate 95% of us resent our men and are unhappy in our marriages. So what percentages do you attribute to the men? How many of them truly love their wives? I would say most men genuinely do love their wives. I really don't think that most women are capabe of long term love. Short term infatuation sure but it always has an expiration date.
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Women are great at playing the victim when they are the one who cheated or verbally abused the men all the time. My ex goes around telling people that I beat her and raped her when neither one was true. ok...if none of that stuff was true then your X is crazy and doesn't count...4real... that's crazy,lol
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 (You know what, I can actually respect woggle for saying this.) But wow, it's sad. So if you're walking around feeling this way what do you do? Do you have a chic on the side or do you show her less love and attention to make yourself feel better in case she stomps on your heart? I don't cheat and I show her love but I would not be shocked if she turned out to be like every other woman I have had the pleasure of loving only to be betrayed. I would love nothing more than to fully let go and finally take these walls down but I will not end up just another statistic like so many men. It's a sad way to have to be but for men in modern relationships it is the only way to survive.
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 I would say most men genuinely do love their wives. I really don't think that most women are capabe of long term love. Short term infatuation sure but it always has an expiration date. If "most" men genuinely love their wives, then why do so many of them cheat? Do you think you can love someone AND yet cheat on them?
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Why would she do that? Sorry t/j She tried to play the victim. Even the judge during our divorce called her out on her bs.
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 If "most" men genuinely love their wives, then why do so many of them cheat? Do you think you can love someone AND yet cheat on them? I don't believe that most men cheat and I would bet that cheating men actually stay married more than faithful men. Women can't stand the idea of giving up their prize to another woman but once they have a man's full love they get bored.
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I would say most men genuinely do love their wives. I really don't think that most women are capabe of long term love. Short term infatuation sure but it always has an expiration date. ok, woggle again you have made me laugh. You're giving me the impression that you're just making this stuff up. so basically you believe that your wife (if you're really maried) is going to leave you any day now. i'm not buying that for some reason...
Boundary Problem Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 once they have a man's full love they get bored. I don't know if that is true. I think all long term relationships get boring. That is why it is essential to match up with someone you can talk to and problem-solve with. And each keeping individuality is critical. Without two individuals, then the marriage goes stale. Too codependent on each other and no forward growth takes place.
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 ok, woggle again you have made me laugh. You're giving me the impression that you're just making this stuff up. so basically you believe that your wife (if you're really maried) is going to leave you any day now. i'm not buying that for some reason... It is a fear that I have that drives me completely insane because I do love her. I simply just don't trust women to actually honor their vows,
Boundary Problem Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 It is a fear that I have that drives me completely insane because I do love her. I simply just don't trust women to actually honor their vows, Then why would you form a marital contract with someone who you don't trust to uphold their end of the deal?
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Then why would you form a marital contract with someone who you don't trust to uphold their end of the deal? At the time I was just so relieved to find a good woman and so far she has done nothing to show she is not but I simply trust issues with women.
Boundary Problem Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 At the time I was just so relieved to find a good woman and so far she has done nothing to show she is not but I simply trust issues with women. I think your trust issues aren't as serious as you believe them to be. If they were - you would have simply lived together and not married her.
muse08 Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I don't believe that most men cheat and I would bet that cheating men actually stay married more than faithful men. Women can't stand the idea of giving up their prize to another woman but once they have a man's full love they get bored. lol...where do you get this stuff. I have to stop reading your posts or I will not be able to sleep due to E.L. (extreme laughter). First of all, dear heart...(bless your heart)...for a healthy minded individual it's not about who stays married the longest. If the marriage is a mess and the husband is cheating, why would you pride yourself in that??? when the sh*t hits the fan, the cheating husband is going to be the one looking crazy and feeling sad and alone, even with a chic on the side... Truthfully speaking, who WOULD be happy with their S.O. being with someone else? If a married man cheats then he's no prize in any sense of the word. Now if you don't care that your wife (prize) has been wooed by another man then you may favor "swinging" over a traditional marriage...
Woggle Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 I think your trust issues aren't as serious as you believe them to be. If they were - you would have simply lived together and not married her. Believe my trust issues are that serious and I feel I am justified. Every time I hear women on here telling me to give up the hate and bitterness I feel like they are trying to cut my balls off and make me another sucker.
Author ComeUndone Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 I don't believe that most men cheat and I would bet that cheating men actually stay married more than faithful men. Women can't stand the idea of giving up their prize to another woman but once they have a man's full love they get bored. Ok, but cheating men that stay married just means the wife doesn't know about it and he's therefore had his cake and ate it too. Not exactly a truthful relationship. Most women stray for reason other than boredom.
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