tami-chan Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 He had a nose job. This pic is pre nose job. I think the surgery was a mistake because it feminized his nose (which was fine and fit his face to begin with). Oh...I was going to say if he wanted to go the surgical route, he should have a rhinoplasty...his nose in "bumpy"- post a pic of him post-rhinoplasty! ...otherwise there is nothing wrong with his eyes or brow..he does look too pretty- very feminine, especially with that pout. I feel bad for the girl in the picture with him, she looks homely next to his pretty-boy face.
Awesome Username Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 He believes that his face is "hypermasculine" and he is seeking to surgery to make his face more feminine. He believes that women in his age group are only attracted to very feminine men like Zac Efron and Chase Crawford. Is this guy comfortable with his gender?
always_searching Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Though he's not my type, I'm 24, and I think he's attractive. Then again, I may be bias as I think he looks like a male version of me! Only, with better hair and fuller lips... Tell him definitely not to get surgery--he already has an effeminate look with the full lips and hair. I haven't read through the thread, but why does he ask? Is he having problems with getting women? I don't see how......unless he wears that outfit everyday?
HokeyPokey Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) This guy seems average, just like most people in the world. I think too many people are obsessed with looking stunning and attractive to a large majority of people. That's just not realistic. It's also unrealistic to think that many people find you unattractive. Most people just don't care or notice. Whenever I felt insecure about my appearance, my mums would just say: "Nobody cares. Everyone is just thinking about what to eat for lunch. You hungry?" Some women will find him appealing, others won't, but most probably won't even make a judgment unless he approaches them. I've had cosmetic surgery myself and what he'd like done probably won't even make a noticeable difference. Regardless of what plastic surgeons would like you to believe, you really can't change your bone structure that dramatically (well, you can but that's when you start looking like one of those messed-up cat people, but they get heaps of second glances:bunny:). I'm 26 by the way. Edited December 2, 2009 by HokeyPokey Tense change!
gypsy_nicky Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 He said he's 6'2" and 155 lbs. ok. He was asking if he could get a more masculine face. Unless he is skinny fat there's pretty much nothing he can do. He's bmi is pretty low and the only way to get the more defined facial features would be to go down in weight. He doesn't really have much to lose since his weight is pretty low for his height.
gypsy_nicky Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 This guy seems average, just like most people in the world. I think too many people are obsessed with looking stunning and attractive to a large majority of people. That's just not realistic. It's also unrealistic to think that many people find you unattractive. Most people just don't care or notice. Whenever I felt insecure about my appearance, my mums would just say: "Nobody cares. Everyone is just thinking about what to eat for lunch. You hungry?" Some women will find him appealing, others won't, but most probably won't even make a judgment unless he approaches them. I've had cosmetic surgery myself and what he'd like done probably won't even make a noticeable difference. Regardless of what plastic surgeons would like you to believe, you really can't change your bone structure that dramatically (well, you can but that's when you start looking like one of those messed-up cat people, but they get heaps of second glances:bunny:). I'm 26 by the way. does the OP have this intention??
Author shadowplay Posted December 2, 2009 Author Posted December 2, 2009 ok. He was asking if he could get a more masculine face. Unless he is skinny fat there's pretty much nothing he can do. He's bmi is pretty low and the only way to get the more defined facial features would be to go down in weight. He doesn't really have much to lose since his weight is pretty low for his height. He actually wants to look more FEMININE because he thinks that's what girls like. I've told him he's nuts, but he doesn't listen.
New Again Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 He actually wants to look more FEMININE because he thinks that's what girls like. I've told him he's nuts, but he doesn't listen. Well of course he doesn't listen. He has serious psychological/self-esteem issues. He didn't listen to a 30 page thread about this; he doesn't listen to you or anyone else in his life; he's not going to listen to anyone on this thread or take anything anyone said to heart...unless of course they happened to say something that agrees with his twisted self-image.
Untouchable_Fire Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 He actually wants to look more FEMININE because he thinks that's what girls like. I've told him he's nuts, but he doesn't listen. Who is the girl next to him in the picture? Sorry if you have answered this one before.
LostInLA Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) I just have to post here because I've had self esteem issues for most of my life. I'm a 34 year old female just so ya know. Anyways, the fact that this young man has ALREADY had surgery is SHOCKING. This picture of him is fine and he IS an attractive young man. I have severe acne scars on my face and have not had any professional treatments and it saddens me to see someone who looks very attractive naturally think that they need surgery to look better. I'm being completely 100% honest here. I wouldn't go out of my way to post that someone is attractive when they are not. And you know what, spend less time on boards and go out and meet real girls. The ironic thing is that if you go to Japan, HOARDS of Japanese girls would love this guy because he is caucasian! Forget trying to fit into some ideal that you think a certain group of girls have, because most likely you are wrong anyways. The only real way you are going to meet a girl and get a girlfriend is to: 1. Meet a girl in real life. Create a connection. 2. Have confidence! - Despite my insecurities about myself, I have been engaged twice since I was 23! You know why, because I can be confident if I work on it AND I have a personality! 3. Quit fixating on your appearance so much and go out and do life! Sorta like the above but you are going to be miserable if you continue on this path. Choose a path of happiness, and start this by being happy with yourself. If you only fixate on your looks, you aren't developing your personality with which to create an actual loving connection with a girl. Nonetheless, to reiterate - Yes, this young man IS attractive and very photogenic I might add. Now get some confidence and enjoy life, these surgeries are a petty thing in the grand scheme of life and they won't bring you happiness AND they are not needed AT ALL. I really hope my points get across. Edited December 3, 2009 by LostInLA
the beholder Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Im sorry to bring this up here (pls dont hate me for this)... but couldnt stop myself cause I cant get it figured - your posts from the other thread "sexy men" http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5307/cuteguy.jpg the guy resembles michael cera from juno as far as i can exemplify http://notsoglamorous.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/michael_cera.jpg never knew he counted as a hottie I guess this can be helpful for KISKE too since if the so called 'cuteguy' could land the hottest girl around then KISKE cld do way better
New Again Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Im sorry to bring this up here (pls dont hate me for this)... but couldnt stop myself cause I cant get it figured - your posts from the other thread "sexy men" http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5307/cuteguy.jpg the guy resembles michael cera from juno as far as i can exemplify http://notsoglamorous.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/michael_cera.jpg never knew he counted as a hottie I guess this can be helpful for KISKE too since if the so called 'cuteguy' could land the hottest girl around then KISKE cld do way better Yes, shadowplay likes feminine men - as you pointed out and as she has stated. Maybe I'm missing your point, the beholder, but this Kiske person doesn't think he looks feminine enough...which is what he thinks women find attractive.
Author shadowplay Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 Im sorry to bring this up here (pls dont hate me for this)... but couldnt stop myself cause I cant get it figured - your posts from the other thread "sexy men" http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5307/cuteguy.jpg the guy resembles michael cera from juno as far as i can exemplify http://notsoglamorous.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/michael_cera.jpg never knew he counted as a hottie I guess this can be helpful for KISKE too since if the so called 'cuteguy' could land the hottest girl around then KISKE cld do way better Meh, Michael Cera is kind of funny (although he always plays the same character) but he's too much of a lil boy for my taste. He seems too soft and weak. This guy I liked had more of an edge. I like how that contrasted with his boyish face. Also, Michael Cera's eyes are weird and close-set. As I've writeen many times, I don't think guys really understand what many young women go for. It's not always about the guy who's objectively the hottest. It's more about attitude and how the appearance fits into that.
Stung Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 With his permission I'm posting kiske's picture here so he can get an honest assessment of his appearance. Please no male posts. Please post your rough age as well. He's mostly looking for feedback from girls in his age group (18-25). And no sugarcoating. He's concerned that people won't be honest. Do you find his eyes attractive and do you find his brow bone to be too strong (these are his concerns)? http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/flitodklm/picture.jpg?t=1259550596 I'm outside of his age range but if we were the same age, I'd find him attractive. He actually looks a little like an old bf I was pretty gaga over back in my late teens. There's nothing wrong with him and if he were ten years older and I weren't married I might buy him a drink.
Stung Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 If he's not attracting girls it is not because of his appearance but because he is lacking elsewhere. If I were younger and looking at him as a potential boyfriend or date, I wouldn't be attracted to him for long because it would turn me off as soon as it became apparent that he had no confidence. From the things you say, this probably comes across through mannerisms and body language from nearly the beginning. I may be an old fart in my early thirties but I say forget fixing the eyes, start fixing the warped self-image if he wants to keep a girl's interest. ditto:bunny:
Author shadowplay Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) Yes, shadowplay likes feminine men - as you pointed out and as she has stated. Maybe I'm missing your point, the beholder, but this Kiske person doesn't think he looks feminine enough...which is what he thinks women find attractive. Feminine is an oversimplification. It also only captures one type that I go for. I have a number of types I find attractive reliant on my mood and what I'm looking for in terms of a relationship. This particular type is boyish in face, but hard as nails in demenaor. You also get a trace of that hardness in their eyes which tend to have thick black brows and experienced looking eyes. I love that combination for whatever reason, perhaps because it emphasizes the unexpected masculinity of their personality by contrast. Debbie Harry is the female version of this type. David Bowie also had a bit of it when he was really young. Michael Cera is girly in both appearance and demeanor. He personifies puppy love, which is a turnoff to me. But I also like overtly masculine guys like Marlon Brando and Christian Bale. Edited December 4, 2009 by shadowplay
melodymatters Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Well I too am out of the age range, but since my last date was with a 23 yr old, I think I can fairly rate the cute younguns ! I'm with Kamille and others who think he looks like a sexy, european model type. Tell that handsome young thing that he definitley has it going on, and if he was in my area and into older woman I'd be on him like white on rice !
quankanne Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 He actually wants to look more FEMININE because he thinks that's what girls like. I've told him he's nuts, but he doesn't listen that's totally whack. If the girls he's into don't like him, chances are it has NOTHING to do with his looks, but with a suck*ss personality. Someone used the word sultry to describe him, and I think that fits to a T. when he's older, he's going to regret trying to make himself look like a woman, because the only ones after him then will be men of dubious character. 1
Skump Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Well... to be "completely honest," when I first saw that picture I wasn't instantly sure that it even featured a guy. So there's that. That, and the abysmal taste in clothing. The latter can be helped, however.
stepka Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I think he looks like a younger and nerdier version of Paolo Nutini, who is totally hawt, but what do I know? I'm worth two 25 year olds!
the beholder Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 But I also like overtly masculine guys like Marlon Brando and Christian Bale. [gasps] thats a relief
the beholder Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 This guy I liked had more of an edge. I like how that contrasted with his boyish face. Also, Michael Cera's eyes are weird and close-set. As I've writeen many times, I don't think guys really understand what many young women go for. It's not always about the guy who's objectively the hottest. It's more about attitude and how the appearance fits into that. So if there was a guy with similar attitude and a more masculine appearance it would be a plus point. (I find this guy's eyes as weird as Michael Cera's... )
the beholder Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Yes, shadowplay likes feminine men - as you pointed out and as she has stated. Maybe I'm missing your point, the beholder, but this Kiske person doesn't think he looks feminine enough...which is what he thinks women find attractive. My point is that these feminine men are not inherently attractive but have to cover it up with their personality/attitude... so going for a feminine look would never work (might work if gays were the target group)
Pink Cupcakes Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 That's not his girlfriend in the pic? They seem like they go well together.
Pink Cupcakes Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Shadowplay I just had a thought. This guy is gay and he is pretending to be straight. he's not ready to come out yet. that's why he wants a more feminine look to his face. He wants to attract GUYS. I'm not a homophobe or anything but I am 100% sure I am correct here. Talk it out with him, he needs to be completely honest and let himself be himself.
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