DenverBachelor Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I know I'm going to get napalmed by the women here, but I've come up with an observation (and I know a lot of men will agree with me, although not public since napalm burns bad). Ok, here's the observations: a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? b) Why do women BS men so much? Why can't a woman just come out and say what she is thinking instead of beating around the bush? Instead of saying, "I don't really like that shirt on you," why not just tell the truth and say, "you can't dress worth **** and this is a major downfall in our relationship." I mean, instead of dropping little hints here and there, why don't you just tell us exactly what you are thinking. Those little hints turn into land mines and we walk on them ALL THE TIME. Why? c) Why do women resort to emotional manipulation to get what they want? d) How can a woman say, "I love you so much!", have sex with you the night before and then break up the next day. What is this all about? Do you have some emotional cabinet where you can just shelve your feelings and then pull them out as needed? e) Why are women so fickle? Why is it when women get into fights with each other, they hate one another for life, but two guys can get into a fist fight and then watch football and drink beers later that night? f) Why is hell's wrath associated to women and not men? This is the only rhetorical question of the bunch. Thanks!
onewillburn Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I guess some would say that it's because women tend to make decisions based on emotions, which are, of course, ever-changing. They don't feel the same way when they're leaving you as they did when they said "I'll always be with you". Even though the two events might take place within a matter of days, or even on the same day. I'm not wholly convinced of this, but I do see why a lot of people would come to this conclusion. Plenty of women have even attested to it. In any case, you should condition yourself so that you pay less attention to a woman's words, and more attention to her actions. See what they say about their friends, and if they actually follow through with the things they say about them. If they constantly talk negatively about friends behind their back, but act like best friends with them when they're around, you know you're dealing with somebody who doesn't necessarily mean what they say. Also, I believe men do a lot of the things you've listed. Women just get away with it more, so they do it more often. The reason they get away with it more is probably because of spinless men who will tolerate anything from a woman just to get her "love". I'm not accusing anybody her of that, I'm just stating something I've noticed. I can't stand men who, out of desperation, don't hold women up to any kind of moral standard. It seems to be more and more common these days.
PinkToes Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I'm just going to take on one of these, partially because a lot of the others apply to both genders (in one form or another): a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? IMO, women sometimes rely on relationships for a bigger part of their identity than men do. And I have all sorts of theories as to why this may be the case, but I think a lot of it has to do with how we're raised, and whether we grew up believing relationships are the key to happiness. I think that women who grew up with a healthy amount of self-esteem are less likely to jump from one relationship to another, and less likely to stay too long in bad relationships.
Woggle Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Because men and society as a whole let them get away with it. Women are not naturally this way but feminism combined with princess syndrome tends to create a monster.
Bulldozed Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I'm just going to take on one of these, partially because a lot of the others apply to both genders (in one form or another): IMO, women sometimes rely on relationships for a bigger part of their identity than men do. And I have all sorts of theories as to why this may be the case, but I think a lot of it has to do with how we're raised, and whether we grew up believing relationships are the key to happiness. I think that women who grew up with a healthy amount of self-esteem are less likely to jump from one relationship to another, and less likely to stay too long in bad relationships. BINGO - regarding the self-esteem issue. I learned some painful things since our breakup, about my ex's up-bringing from some of her childhood (through high school) friends. Always being picked on, taken advantage of and an incredibly over-bearing mother who constantly ( and to this day as I've witnessed it) belittles and criticizes her, sometimes to the point of tears. I've bitten my tongue when I've seen this occur. She's a 41 yr old woman, incredibly beautiful but regrettably doesn't love herself very much. She needs to be in chaotic relationships where she views herself as needed, the one who can make everything better. I never fit her dating profile as I was completely different than any guy she was ever with prior to me. Well educated, gainfully employed, didn't deal drugs, didn't cheat on her, and most importantly grew up in a very stable and loving household. To the point of how one discusses others iin their life, she was always critical of them as this clearly was her way at making her feel better about herself. I didn't stand a chance...there was nothing I could do to change or reverse the damage already done. I do believe her hurt is pure, she's unfortunately lost her way.
PinkToes Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I never fit her dating profile as I was completely different than any guy she was ever with prior to me. Well educated, gainfully employed, didn't deal drugs, didn't cheat on her, and most importantly grew up in a very stable and loving household. That's the really sad thing, that you were such a good person who was willing to stick it out and help her come to terms with things, and on some level, she probably didn't think she deserved you. And it's just too much to overcome, if she didn't come to the relationship with a stronger sense of herself, or she wasn't willing to deal with her issues with you by her side. It's just sad.
Boundary Problem Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I know I'm going to get napalmed by the women here, but I've come up with an observation (and I know a lot of men will agree with me, although not public since napalm burns bad). Ok, here's the observations: a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? b) Why do women BS men so much? Why can't a woman just come out and say what she is thinking instead of beating around the bush? Instead of saying, "I don't really like that shirt on you," why not just tell the truth and say, "you can't dress worth **** and this is a major downfall in our relationship." I mean, instead of dropping little hints here and there, why don't you just tell us exactly what you are thinking. Those little hints turn into land mines and we walk on them ALL THE TIME. Why? c) Why do women resort to emotional manipulation to get what they want? d) How can a woman say, "I love you so much!", have sex with you the night before and then break up the next day. What is this all about? Do you have some emotional cabinet where you can just shelve your feelings and then pull them out as needed? e) Why are women so fickle? Why is it when women get into fights with each other, they hate one another for life, but two guys can get into a fist fight and then watch football and drink beers later that night? f) Why is hell's wrath associated to women and not men? This is the only rhetorical question of the bunch. Thanks! I consider myself a strong woman (b*tch), but I don't engage in behaviours listed in (a)-(e). When provoked, I may resort to (f), but only in dire circumstances. So I think (a)-(e) are the behaviours of a brat (male or female) - someone who is evading responsibility for their conduct and who is too selfish to see or care about the impact of their actions. I don't think these are the behaviours of a bitch. A bitch is too strong to show such weak behaviours. With strength comes responsibility to consistently regulate behaviour.
LostInLA Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I find this entire post amusing and I'm sure you know you are way overgeneralizing, but I'll play along. I know I'm going to get napalmed by the women here, but I've come up with an observation (and I know a lot of men will agree with me, although not public since napalm burns bad). Ok, here's the observations: a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? Same reasons why women want to marry and men don't. It's our nature, "we" are ALL about relationships, romantic or not. (However, I'm making it a point to not be in a relationship for a while while my ex is in a rebound relationship right now.) We are all human and that is that. b) Why do women BS men so much? Why can't a woman just come out and say what she is thinking instead of beating around the bush? Instead of saying, "I don't really like that shirt on you," why not just tell the truth and say, "you can't dress worth **** and this is a major downfall in our relationship." I mean, instead of dropping little hints here and there, why don't you just tell us exactly what you are thinking. Those little hints turn into land mines and we walk on them ALL THE TIME. Why? What is the difference between saying "we" don't like a shirt on you vs. you don't dress well? Seems like "we" are trying to be nice but I have heard guys complain about women not being direct enough. To go out on this tangent, "we" feel that if a guy cares enough about us, he would be able to read our minds. Yup. Go read "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" if you haven't already. By the way, I make it a point to be more direct with a guy. c) Why do women resort to emotional manipulation to get what they want? And guys don't do this? d) How can a woman say, "I love you so much!", have sex with you the night before and then break up the next day. What is this all about? Do you have some emotional cabinet where you can just shelve your feelings and then pull them out as needed? As I said...and guys don't do this? Even more so? Come on! e) Why are women so fickle? Why is it when women get into fights with each other, they hate one another for life, but two guys can get into a fist fight and then watch football and drink beers later that night? (How is being fickle relevant to hating another girl for life?) In my personal experience, it seems that it's rare for most girls to truly trust another girl. We get burned, we don't have the "hos before bros" mentality as much, maybe that's why. I can't tell you how many girls would ruin a friendship with another girl just for a guy. ICK. f) Why is hell's wrath associated to women and not men? This is the only rhetorical question of the bunch. Thanks! Whu???
ADF Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I'm a man, but I think I'll napalm you anyway. a) Generally speaking, men are far more miserable without women than vice versa. b) Men lie to women constantly. About everything. c) Why do men put on false fronts to get sex? d) Men do the same thing. They tell women what they think they want to hear to get them into bed. Then, once the deed is done or they get bored, they disappear. e) Men are just as fickle as women. As soon as their buddy's back is turned , they start hitting on his GF. f) The term you are referring to is, "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." It comes from Shakespear--a man. Go figure.
Template Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Wow.. such an biased over generalization. However, I'm not going to fault you, as women also have their biased over generalization of men as well. I think everything you touched on applies to both men and women equally, as the the functions may be the same, it's just packaged differently. But here's my take, and these are just general observation, and in NO means applies to ALL women. a) I think from birth women are bombarded from parents, to the media that they NEED to be in a good relationship. Parents tell their little daughters that they should find a good man, to television shows and movie that show women in the constant pursuit of love (They don't call them chick flicks for no reason). I think subconsciously women base other women, on the basis of their relationships. Men on the other hand are generally raised for person accomplishments, and individual achievements. Fathers raise them this way so they can be MANLY MEN, and mother's promote this so they can be the "good man" for whomever he marries. You look at the shows, and movies targeted to men, and tell me what you see; some kind of physical, maybe mental overcoming of the situation at hand. To sports, where we celebrate individual accomplishments. However, ladies, don't be fooled as with all the bravado, men also have the need for a solid emotional supportive relationship, it's just that we aren't programmed to publicly seek it out. b) Ladies, I know you wish that us men can read your minds, but the reality is we can't. On the emotional complexity scale, we lost, we just can't compare. As a comedian sex therapist once said, a women goes through a gambit of 12 emotional impulses a second... on average. A guy... 2. So how are guys supposed to keep up? However, it's not to say that men don't BS. We certainly do. I see guys all the time bottle up what they are really trying to say (hell, I'm guilty of this), and then BS a little lie, here and there, just to keep the peace. While in a perfect world, being TOTALLY up front and honest would be the holy grail of a relationship, as a species, we generally have a hard time distinguishing honesty with intent to help, or honesty with intent to hurt. When we get down to it, while we want total upfront honesty, we never preface that with total upfront honesty of things WE WANT TO HEAR. c) Men are just as guilty. This is a totally unfair accusation of women. d) Again, as with "c", men are just as guilty if not more so. However, I do think that women can generally handle their emotions better than men, so they can transition from "i love you be with me" to "get the hell" out faster. Guys on the other hand, take longer for that transition. So if a guy says "I love you, be with me forever", the night before he breaks up with you, it's probably because he was lying. e) Men are just as bad. As for guys getting into a fist fight; what was it about. Hell, it could just be a latent cro magnon need to establish alpha male territory. In that case, the fight really had no meaning, which is why we can drink beer the next day. I guess my point is what was the deeper meaning of the fight. I mean seriously, I doubt a woman is going to end her relationship with her bff because she farted in Macy's and embarrassed her. f) Let me answer this with a scenario, and maybe we can discover the answer together. If a man bring hell's wrath (beats her up, verbally abuse her or her possessions, etc.) to a women what happens? A woman would rightfully report him to the authorities, and get support from groups, friends, families, etc. (Case in point, Rihanna--Not saying Chris Brown was right, by NO means, but all we hear is Her side of the story by far.) Let's see what happens when a woman does this to a man. A man may or may not report her, the chances of reporting it or publicizing it is much much less. IF in the case he does, his male friends will most likely ridicule him before they offer any support, and probably the same as any authority. So what I'm trying to say, is that women will proceed with full force because she CAN. While a guy will be looked down upon if he acted in the same manner. Again, these are all just my own person observations, so agree if you agree, if not, then don't. However, I don't agree that men and women aren't that much different to be honest. We all do the same things, however, the outcome maybe the same, because of the perception of how the actions of a women should be treated and vice versa with men. The only thing different is expectations of result.
silic0ntoad Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Who cares? If you're asking these lame @$$ questions you're dating the wrong type of women. The woman that wants to be with you won't play these games. The woman that plays these games and is with you is a treacherous person you should rid yourself of as soon as possible. And that goes for guys too. Every time I've had a relationship that I flaked on for whatever reason, the girl didn't display any of the above behaviours. I had to go to counselling to figure out why I made the choice in mates that I made and what caused it before I stopped dating fake @$$ women with lame personalities.
HeavenOrHell Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 a) I bet you my ex (male) will go into another relationship well before I am ready, I have never gone into a rebound relationship and I never will. b) Men and women can both BS, it's not a gender thing. Would you rather she told you dress like S*** rather than being sensitive about it??? Why didn't my ex tell me clearly there were problems and not just drop little hints about such an important, life changing thing. c) So you're sure that every single woman in the world does this and men never do?! d) Snap! How could he sleep with me, clearly enjoy it, tell me he loved me and send texts saying he loved me and then soon after say "I'm not sure how I feel about you anymore." Any why did he say he'd never leave me again, couldn't live without me. Yeah right. BS. e) Same as for d) f) I know I'm going to get napalmed by the women here, but I've come up with an observation (and I know a lot of men will agree with me, although not public since napalm burns bad). Ok, here's the observations: a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? b) Why do women BS men so much? Why can't a woman just come out and say what she is thinking instead of beating around the bush? Instead of saying, "I don't really like that shirt on you," why not just tell the truth and say, "you can't dress worth **** and this is a major downfall in our relationship." I mean, instead of dropping little hints here and there, why don't you just tell us exactly what you are thinking. Those little hints turn into land mines and we walk on them ALL THE TIME. Why? c) Why do women resort to emotional manipulation to get what they want? d) How can a woman say, "I love you so much!", have sex with you the night before and then break up the next day. What is this all about? Do you have some emotional cabinet where you can just shelve your feelings and then pull them out as needed? e) Why are women so fickle? Why is it when women get into fights with each other, they hate one another for life, but two guys can get into a fist fight and then watch football and drink beers later that night? f) Why is hell's wrath associated to women and not men? This is the only rhetorical question of the bunch. Thanks!
Ronni_W Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 a) Because we can't fend for ourselves? b) Because we can (because men are so gullible)? c) Because we can (because men are such suckers)? d) Because we have no heart or soul? e) Because we are not blessed with the same strong/positive character traits as men? f) Because we know how to set healthier and stronger boundaries than men? I'm expecting to score 100% -- but let me know my actual results, please and thanks. :rolleyes:
deux ex machina Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Why don't you try broadening your horizons just a tad?
mickleb Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Hmmn. We kinda did this less than five days ago: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t210475/ Get with the PROGRAM, DB! x
threebyfate Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Yes, we're all bitches and act exactly like the opening post. So many stunning insights and truths. I just don't know how to take it all in.
TheLoneSock Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) I know I'm going to get napalmed by the women here, but I've come up with an observation (and I know a lot of men will agree with me, although not public since napalm burns bad). HAHA Ok, here's the observations: a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? b) Why do women BS men so much? Why can't a woman just come out and say what she is thinking instead of beating around the bush? Instead of saying, "I don't really like that shirt on you," why not just tell the truth and say, "you can't dress worth **** and this is a major downfall in our relationship." I mean, instead of dropping little hints here and there, why don't you just tell us exactly what you are thinking. Those little hints turn into land mines and we walk on them ALL THE TIME. Why? c) Why do women resort to emotional manipulation to get what they want? d) How can a woman say, "I love you so much!", have sex with you the night before and then break up the next day. What is this all about? Do you have some emotional cabinet where you can just shelve your feelings and then pull them out as needed? e) Why are women so fickle? Why is it when women get into fights with each other, they hate one another for life, but two guys can get into a fist fight and then watch football and drink beers later that night? f) Why is hell's wrath associated to women and not men? This is the only rhetorical question of the bunch. Thanks! It's normally a good thing to avoid generalizations, but for the sake of the argument I'll assume you know not all women are like this. So, IMO, it's because women are indecisive and for the most part avoid conflict. Translation: a lot of the time they don't actually know what they want. And as far as conflict goes, they may avoid it, but that doesn't mean they don't have those internal conflicted feelings, which makes them: passive aggressive. Of course not all women will fall into this analysys, but the majority will. I can't say I agree with all of your bullet points, because some sound more like rants than actual points, but I found your overall question in there somewhere. So, in short, my answer is - indecision, and passive aggression. Edited November 25, 2009 by TheLoneSock typo
Lizzie60 Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Why is it Instinct for Women to be B****es? Simple... men love bi*ches...
floods88 Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? b) Why do women BS men so much? Why can't a woman just come out and say what she is thinking instead of beating around the bush? c) Why do women resort to emotional manipulation to get what they want? d) How can a woman say, "I love you so much!", have sex with you the night before and then break up the next day. What is this all about? Do you have some emotional cabinet where you can just shelve your feelings and then pull them out as needed? e) Why are women so fickle? Thanks! my ex BOYfriend is guilty of all this. its not about gender. it really isnt.
lilbelle Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I know I'm going to get napalmed by the women here, but I've come up with an observation (and I know a lot of men will agree with me, although not public since napalm burns bad). Ok, here's the observations: a) Why do women need to constantly be in relationships? I see far more women just out of relationships into a rebound relationship than men. Why is this? This is simply not true. Independent women don't act like this. I waited 8 months to have a one night stand much less a boyfriend. I did date but mostlly it was dinner and movies, just someone to hang with, never physical and usually only one or two dates b) Why do women BS men so much? Why can't a woman just come out and say what she is thinking instead of beating around the bush? Instead of saying, "I don't really like that shirt on you," why not just tell the truth and say, "you can't dress worth **** and this is a major downfall in our relationship." I mean, instead of dropping little hints here and there, why don't you just tell us exactly what you are thinking. Those little hints turn into land mines and we walk on them ALL THE TIME. Why? Because we are emotional and men are logical. c) Why do women resort to emotional manipulation to get what they want? Read above answer. We learn it from hollywood. d) How can a woman say, "I love you so much!", have sex with you the night before and then break up the next day. What is this all about? Do you have some emotional cabinet where you can just shelve your feelings and then pull them out as needed? Because we are scared of getting hurt. Perhaps she thought you didn't feel the same, sex sucked, who knows... yes we have shelves for our feelings and we multi task as well e) Why are women so fickle? Why is it when women get into fights with each other, they hate one another for life, but two guys can get into a fist fight and then watch football and drink beers later that night? I don't fight with any woman, no need to it. Usually fights are over jealousy or a problem within ones self image f) Why is hell's wrath associated to women and not men? This is the only rhetorical question of the bunch. Because eve ate the apple Thanks! Hope that helps
USMCHokie Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Why is it Instinct for Women to be B****es? Simple... men love bi*ches... And women love douchebags...
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