Ody Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Playing with the hand is fun and can be flirty or sensual.... but holding hands is another thing. Yeah but either would be a sign that you're in ok-to-kiss territory. I'm having a problem with the holding hands thing. Do guys really hold hands on the first/second dates? I've probably done this on second or third dates but probably not before at least making out a little. Some level of physical comfort has to be established first I think before such a friendly and relaxed gesture will seem comfortable. I understand what you mean but to some people holding hands isn't too far beyond offering an arm.
Ody Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 But I am way more touchy feely than most people, and it depends on what Im feeling as well. [...] If I really think about it, I can pretty much see where on first dates with someone I ended up liking, or ended up in a relationship with, we were "hand touching" for lack fo a better word on a first date. [...] I can even recall a number oif times where a girl would do some version of reading the palm/checking your love line etc as an excuse to touch your hand. When I do it, it might be something as lame as pretending to look at a piece of jewelry, then continuing contact. Or even just telling ehr she has beautiful hands and touching one with or without a may I Like I said it isnt planned, but cant think of a time it hasnt happened. Think its a natural first step for most people. But I can only go by my experience Yeah I'm totally with you here. I think hand holding usually comes after first kiss though. There is certainly some kind of intermediate "hand touching" thing too. I've never had much luck explaining this to non touchy feely people though, basically some people become physically comfortable very quickly, not just sex but also other less overt intimate gestures. It's neither a shallow thing or a deep thing it's just how some people are, and in a pair of people one person having this trait might influence the other one. Lol reading your palm is the oldest trick in the book for women, I can't even remember all the times women have used that line on me or seen women use it on other guys. LOL jerseyboy now I have this picture of you trying some lame ass "hey that sure is a nice ring let me see it" line on a woman! Hehe! But any line that works is not a lame line...
Ms. Joolie Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I dont know what other guys do. I do. Its never been an isssue for me. But I am way more touchy feely than most people, and it depends on what Im feeling as well. Its not planned , it just happens. You take her hand as you help her out of the car, hold it walking into where you are going. If I really think about it, I can pretty much see where on first dates with someone I ended up liking, or ended up in a relationship with, we were "hand touching" for lack fo a better word on a first date. When there is an attraction there is a desire to be able to touch the other person. I dont disagree that it is intimate, even sexual in a way. I can even recall a number oif times where a girl would do some version of reading the palm/checking your love line etc as an excuse to touch your hand. When I do it, it might be something as lame as pretending to look at a piece of jewelry, then continuing contact. Or even just telling ehr she has beautiful hands and touching one with or without a may I Like I said it isnt planned, but cant think of a time it hasnt happened. Think its a natural first step for most people. But I can only go by my experience Ok, this makes sense, of course. I did intertwine my arm and hand with the ex from time to time... I just don't remember the initial hand touching I guess. As far as his, or any previous dates, holding my hand to get out the car and other gentlemanly stuff.... don't remember. wow. have to think about that. The hands are so expressive, and seem so intimate. I'll have to think about that, too. haha
jerseyboy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 LOL jerseyboy now I have this picture of you trying some lame ass "hey that sure is a nice ring let me see it" line on a woman! Hehe! But any line that works is not a lame line... LOL Yeah but when I do it I never pretend to look at the jewlery:) She knows,a nd she knows I want her to know:) Like saying nice necklace and letting the back fo your hand caress her neck and upper chest. And of course you have to be close;) Girls know. Its just flirty contact
Ms. Joolie Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 LOL Yeah but when I do it I never pretend to look at the jewlery:) She knows,a nd she knows I want her to know:) Like saying nice necklace and letting the back fo your hand caress her neck and upper chest. And of course you have to be close;) Girls know. Its just flirty contact haha... flirty contact and seduction! Hand work is different from hand holding, OP.
jerseyboy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Ok, this makes sense, of course. I did intertwine my arm and hand with the ex from time to time... I just don't remember the initial hand touching I guess. As far as his, or any previous dates, holding my hand to get out the car and other gentlemanly stuff.... don't remember. wow. have to think about that. The hands are so expressive, and seem so intimate. I'll have to think about that, too. haha Especially if a woman is otherwise shy. Your caressing her hand with your fingers will usually evoke a similar response if shes otherwise tough to read. Or just how she holds it, does she pull away, intwine her fingers etc Even how she rubs your fingers says a lot. Think about it;)
Ms. Joolie Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I do understand the sensuality of the hands, of course. I just kind of forgot that gentleman side of it.
Ody Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I really have to resist the urge to threadjack this into a rave on nice hands.
jerseyboy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I do understand the sensuality of the hands, of course. I just kind of forgot that gentleman side of it. Ha Im your typical mediterranean If you want to shut us up dont gag us, just tie our hands up;)
Author Lost-n-confused Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 I've been thinking alot about offering my hand or arm vs just grabbing her hand or taking her arm. Reguardless it's a good way of guageing how comfortable they are. Yet it could also ruin the date if you grab their hand and they pull back. Offering the hand is better but I feel it puts them on the spot. Grabbing the arm is better then the hand. Your still are being bold but less intimate. Offering your arm is very gentlemen like and won't put them on the spot. I've heard good ones like if your going to cross the street just grab her hand. It's a great reason and your protecting them, supposedly they like that. I've also heard about grabbing the hand to show them something. Not as good as crossing the street. I'm still confused as to what I want to do. I need to guage this girls comfort level before I go for the kiss. I feel chemisty but my friend says it can be single sided. He also said she likes a man who take leads and who is a man about things. So grabbing the hand is as bold as it gets. Not sure if I should trust my friend on this thou. This girl might be into me but is scared because she has been hurt. So if my friend is right I deff should make a move but if she's nervous and scared I need to take things slow.
laRubiaBonita Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 one of the best kisses i have had was one that i asked for. it was a guy that i was 'friends' with- i was sooooo attracted to him, but a girl i knew at the time forced herself on him. so we had played a game of pool and i offered to give him a ride home because his friend was drunk. we are on our way, and i pulled the car off the road and i told him i had wanted to kiss him ever since i met him.... he grabbed me and we kissed on the side of the road..... it was great!!! he told me later he had never had anyone say that to him before and he loved it!
torranceshipman Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 My boyfriend...we'd had an amazing date, and he walked me to a cab, and we were kissing for a while - a wonderful kiss - and after a few mins we realized we were soaked, as it had been raining the whole time but neither of us had noticed, because we were so distracted by the kissing, haha
jerseyboy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 First kiss/Perfect kiss Freshman year. Attending all boys prep school. Decided to do a school play as the only girls we came in to contact with were activites related. Play is Inherit the Wind. So play is done, and Im going to my first "party" Most of the kids were older, but only a few seniors with cars and everyone piling in to drive over to some kids house where the party will be happening. Im the guy, so IM sitting, and some I guess junior or senior girl, cant recall which, has to climb on my lap. Same with everyone else. The inevitable happens when a pretty girl is sitting ona guys lap, and Im f'ing mortified. I mean for a long time I have real embarassment issues with that whole thing, since I was in first grade. As far back as I can. recall. And I know she knows. Which she did. So all these things are running through my head. Is she going to start screaming. Are the other guys going to try and kick my azz because Im perving on her. Is she going to tell everyone what a disgusting perv I am blah bloah blah We get there, the party is a nightmare to me of paranoid angst. Every time I hear some girl giggling Im sure theyre giggling about me and Im embarassed as hell. So I go wait otuside on the front steps waiting for this nightmare to end. She comes otuside, asks why im hanging out by myself. I have no idea wtf kind of nosnense I mumbled. I didnt bring it up, but it was rambling stupidity. She leans in, kisses me on the lips for several seconds, and then says its ok, come inside.
Author Lost-n-confused Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 First kiss/Perfect kiss Freshman year. Attending all boys prep school. Decided to do a school play as the only girls we came in to contact with were activites related. Play is Inherit the Wind. So play is done, and Im going to my first "party" Most of the kids were older, but only a few seniors with cars and everyone piling in to drive over to some kids house where the party will be happening. Im the guy, so IM sitting, and some I guess junior or senior girl, cant recall which, has to climb on my lap. Same with everyone else. The inevitable happens when a pretty girl is sitting ona guys lap, and Im f'ing mortified. I mean for a long time I have real embarassment issues with that whole thing, since I was in first grade. As far back as I can. recall. And I know she knows. Which she did. So all these things are running through my head. Is she going to start screaming. Are the other guys going to try and kick my azz because Im perving on her. Is she going to tell everyone what a disgusting perv I am blah bloah blah We get there, the party is a nightmare to me of paranoid angst. Every time I hear some girl giggling Im sure theyre giggling about me and Im embarassed as hell. So I go wait otuside on the front steps waiting for this nightmare to end. She comes otuside, asks why im hanging out by myself. I have no idea wtf kind of nosnense I mumbled. I didnt bring it up, but it was rambling stupidity. She leans in, kisses me on the lips for several seconds, and then says its ok, come inside. That's so cool. Lucky What happened? Did you guys date or hookup?
jerseyboy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 That's so cool. Lucky What happened? Did you guys date or hookup? No LOL Gf's for me didnt happen till a few years later. I was way too shy a kid at that point.
Author Lost-n-confused Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 No LOL Gf's for me didnt happen till a few years later. I was way too shy a kid at that point. So she kissed you and that was it. Did Atleast kiss her again or get her number?
Ody Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 So she kissed you and that was it. Did Atleast kiss her again or get her number? Heh are you one of those folks who have a hard time putting down a book before the end?
Ms. Joolie Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 So now that story time is over, are you still a virgin, Lost?
deux ex machina Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 What do you feel is the perfect first kiss or share a story of a first kiss that truely knocked your socks off. Most memorable = him biting my lower lip. Best = slow kisses. I like it when they moan, too.
Author Lost-n-confused Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 So now that story time is over, are you still a virgin, Lost? Yes I am. Ive also only ever kissed a girl once and it was a pop kiss.
jerseyboy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Yes I am. Ive also only ever kissed a girl once and it was a pop kiss. I think she was offering herself as a remedy Im good at picking up on these things Ask her what her sign is
Ody Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I think she was offering herself as a remedy Im good at picking up on these things Ask her what her sign is LOL hopefully she's not like me this is one of my least favorite questions to hear. I offer different advice, just kiss her again. But JB might know better.
leap83 Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Perfect first kiss... Oh man. I'm getting chills just thinking about it. So, we went out for dinner and it was one of those rainy summer nights. We walked down to the beach. I was kind of freezing my butt off (haha) - he gave me his sweater to wear (then he was freezing his butt off). My umbrella wasn't functioning right, so my hair was soaked and his too (small umbrella haha). We stopped right under the trees overlooking the lake and he just slowly leaned in and very gently kissed me - like almost barely touching my lips, gentle, slow.... Oy. I need to snap out of it. Haha. It sent chills right through my spine and I just wanted more. LOL. It was perfect.
jerseyboy Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 LOL hopefully she's not like me this is one of my least favorite questions to hear. I offer different advice, just kiss her again. But JB might know better. LOL I was just teasing Lost and joolie Not really lost I think youre in like Flynn
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