Midnight Rider Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I feel if i do not call to talk to my son then that will be more ammo for her to use against me. You can simply tell lawyers/authorities that she and her family have created a very hostile and combative environment making it impossible for you to speak with and see your son. There is no point in calling anymore because every attempt to make contact results in your wife and her family becoming more angry and difficult to negotiate with, causing you and your son more pain and suffering.
2.50 a gallon Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Dude You are at war! Your wife and her family are your enemy! Do not tip off you enemy of your war plans, custody, etc. Let your lawyer do your talking. No contact, do not call them, and when they call you be polite, do not go off of them, be patient, let your lawyer do all of the dirty work At this time you can not get her back. Consider for the time being giving up on seeing your son. Do not go to their house. These are sick people and can not be trusted. 911: "My husband just pushed me." Hand cuffs, jail, now the judge will not listen to your story. Avoid all physical contact unless it is in a public place. And even then consider having a way to record your actions.
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 At this point it is very clear to me that I am not interested in getting her back. If she ever wakes up and realizes that this is the wrong thing that is happening then I will applaud her for it but I still dont think I would take her back, alot of things would have to change and I mean alot.
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 8, 2009 Author Posted December 8, 2009 Well I have not had any contact with her since the night that me and her father got into it. She no longer gets online to check her email or anything. Me honestly I am not really getting any better. Truthfully I miss her and I really really miss my son. I am filing all the necessary paperwork tomorrow to take her to court for custody. I know this is something that everyone here goes through. How do you get over the fact that the person you cared about so much and shared everything with may now be intimite with someone else?? This part is something that goes through my head almost 24/7 and it hurts a lot.
Chrome Barracuda Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 You do what needs to be done, keep fighting. Youv'e done all you can but if you cannot stop the toxicity of the situation dont bother with it.
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 8, 2009 Author Posted December 8, 2009 My friends tell me that they have seen a change in me since the breakup. They say I dress different now and I carry myself a lot better, I don't see it honestly. The only thing I see is my life getting worse. I am very depressed, it is getting to the point to where I may lose my job, I cant sleep at night, and when I can finally get to sleep i cant wake up in the morning. I don't want to lose my job because right now that is all that I have that keeps me going during the day. I need to get help I think. I feel that I am going to have to get on some kind of pills or something to help me through all of this. My wife and my son were my whole life, i ruined it and I feel so bad about it. I am at a point in my life that I cannot come to terms with what has happened. I feel it is going to take me the better part of 2 years or maybe even more to get over all of this.
Chrome Barracuda Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 You have your life on your own now, and the only thing that matters is your son and his well being. Your wife or ex is an idiot. she'll realize that one day. Keep fighting...Dont give up.
Kic Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Are you on anti-depressants or have you gone through counseling? You shouldn't have to deal with this alone - one or both of these can help immensely. Your job may also have free HR resources for things like this.
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 Im not on any med's. I am dealing with this pretty much all by myself. I do have friends but they only come around every so often. I dont like being alone, I like having someone to talk to, someone to cuddle up with. I just feel so damn useless now.
soheartbroken Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 The only thing I see is my life getting worse. I am very depressed, it is getting to the point to where I may lose my job, I cant sleep at night, and when I can finally get to sleep i cant wake up in the morning. I don't want to lose my job because right now that is all that I have that keeps me going during the day. I need to get help I think. I feel that I am going to have to get on some kind of pills or something to help me through all of this. My wife and my son were my whole life, i ruined it and I feel so bad about it. I am at a point in my life that I cannot come to terms with what has happened. I feel it is going to take me the better part of 2 years or maybe even more to get over all of this. Hey lifted. I hear you. I would definitely recommend some counseling if you can get it. I recommend counseling not because any one person is more f*cked up than any other, but just because these times can be so traumatizing. It's amazing the hopeless thoughts that our minds can come up with... And I don't know if this helps or hurts, but it could very well take two or more years to fully recover from this. But I don't think it will take that long for you to start to feel better, and that's the key. You're probably making progress as we speak, you just can't see it. In fact, I think it's good that you realize that this will take a lot of time. That way you're not stuck feeling ashamed for not "being over it" quickly.
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 It is very hard, Now if we didnt have a child together then this situation would probably not be as bad. I dont understand how someone so loving and caring would all of a sudden just jump up and do this stuff. She cant even call me to let me know how my son is doing. it makes no sense to me honestly. I thought she was the one, she thought I was the one at one time as well. How the hell do you get over that? What if she was the one and I ruined it?????
PortuguesePrincess80 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I feel for you! I think its devastating that she would put your son in the middle of this...and only think of her selfish self. She's DEFINATELY not thinking of your son at this point..and his needs. I think she will live to regret this at some point in her life...but you on the other hand need to get on with your life! Occupy your time..find a part time job...make life easier for yourself and your son. I know its hard to let go..but shes got some serious issues she needs to work on her own. And not at the expense of you or your son either. I don't understand how women can do that to their children. They are the only ones who suffer from all this drama. Just wait till you get court and custody arrangements settled..then she really cant do anything else. There should be no reason for contact unless its an emergency.
nobmagnet Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 firstly you didnt ruin it. She did by her actions. In any relationship breakdown there is blame to be appotioned to both sides. Never equally but blame all the same. Without the means to discuss it thoughly through with her, your head is replaying the different scenarios again and again. It is something you will never fully understand and that is painful and annoying. Acceptance and inner peace is what you need right now and councilling will help you tremendosly.And if you are feeling that down (which I think you are) a trip to the doctors would be a good idea. You are not sleeping, your work is suffering and you need some help. bast wishes (im on 40mg of citalopram and it really really helps me)
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 10, 2009 Author Posted December 10, 2009 Well today was the turning point in my life, atleast I hope that it Is. I actually held a loaded 44 magnum to my head today and was ready to pull the trigger, I could not do It. I broke down in Tears and pretty much had a nervous breakdown. My boss' Daughter decided that it was time for me to get help. I went to the E.R. tonight. I am surprised they did not admit me due to the fact that I was about to kill myself. They prescribed me some prozac and something else for sleeping. i have to follow up with a therapist and a psychiatrist soon. Everyone tells me it will get better, There is not a minute that goes by day by day that I continually hurt, I cant stop thinking about her, The pain that I am going through and how bad I just wished it were over. I am the type of person that I think about things 24/7 365, I cant stop thinking about it. i also have low self esteem so that does not help either. I was adopted, I dont know my real parents. I lost my step mother to limes disease when I was in the 6th grade but still the events that are happening to me right now hurt 10 times worse then when I lost my mother. I have pretty much no Family, She and my son were my only family. I never had that bond that people do with there parents, It was never there for me. My step father is in the military and is a very strict man. We never got along. I have been living on my own since I was 17yrs old. So That special parent/child bond was never there for me. i honestly feel like I have lost The most special thing to me in my entire life. From the time I was 17 until I turned 25 I had 0 relationships with any females none I was single and no one seems to pay me any attention. I finally met someone when I was 25 and now look where I am. I now know why they say love hurts and to never trust anybody.
NINEBREAKER Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 to me is sounds like she was to young and imature to know what she was getting into. she was only 19. what did you think was going to happen. at that age its best to only get married if they get pregnant on accedent. but only after the kid is born. you have to make sure its yours. i almost got married to a girl who lied about the kid being mine. i may have dark skin but i am not black. thats how i knew. yet she still claims it as mine
NINEBREAKER Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Well today was the turning point in my life, atleast I hope that it Is. I actually held a loaded 44 magnum to my head today and was ready to pull the trigger, I could not do It. I broke down in Tears and pretty much had a nervous breakdown. My boss' Daughter decided that it was time for me to get help. I went to the E.R. tonight. I am surprised they did not admit me due to the fact that I was about to kill myself. They prescribed me some prozac and something else for sleeping. i have to follow up with a therapist and a psychiatrist soon. Everyone tells me it will get better, There is not a minute that goes by day by day that I continually hurt, I cant stop thinking about her, The pain that I am going through and how bad I just wished it were over. I am the type of person that I think about things 24/7 365, I cant stop thinking about it. i also have low self esteem so that does not help either. I was adopted, I dont know my real parents. I lost my step mother to limes disease when I was in the 6th grade but still the events that are happening to me right now hurt 10 times worse then when I lost my mother. I have pretty much no Family, She and my son were my only family. I never had that bond that people do with there parents, It was never there for me. My step father is in the military and is a very strict man. We never got along. I have been living on my own since I was 17yrs old. So That special parent/child bond was never there for me. i honestly feel like I have lost The most special thing to me in my entire life. From the time I was 17 until I turned 25 I had 0 relationships with any females none I was single and no one seems to pay me any attention. I finally met someone when I was 25 and now look where I am. I now know why they say love hurts and to never trust anybody. sorry to hear that. i tried killing myself before. didnt work to well. but i realized there was still more for me to do. as you should too. you still have much you can do in life. its best to live life to the fullest of your ability. trying one new thing will change alot of your perspective on things. i started riding motorcycles and now my life is centered around them. you need to find yourself some direction
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 10, 2009 Author Posted December 10, 2009 I firmly believe that is the case here. i honestly think I made a big mistake getting involved with someone so young. I didn't know what to do and I don't think she knew what to do. And now it has me in the worse situation that I have ever been in in my entire life.
soheartbroken Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Well today was the turning point in my life, atleast I hope that it Is. I actually held a loaded 44 magnum to my head today and was ready to pull the trigger, I could not do It. I broke down in Tears and pretty much had a nervous breakdown. My boss' Daughter decided that it was time for me to get help. I went to the E.R. tonight. I am surprised they did not admit me due to the fact that I was about to kill myself. They prescribed me some prozac and something else for sleeping. i have to follow up with a therapist and a psychiatrist soon. Everyone tells me it will get better, There is not a minute that goes by day by day that I continually hurt, I cant stop thinking about her, The pain that I am going through and how bad I just wished it were over. I am the type of person that I think about things 24/7 365, I cant stop thinking about it. i also have low self esteem so that does not help either. I was adopted, I dont know my real parents. I lost my step mother to limes disease when I was in the 6th grade but still the events that are happening to me right now hurt 10 times worse then when I lost my mother. I have pretty much no Family, She and my son were my only family. I never had that bond that people do with there parents, It was never there for me. My step father is in the military and is a very strict man. We never got along. I have been living on my own since I was 17yrs old. So That special parent/child bond was never there for me. i honestly feel like I have lost The most special thing to me in my entire life. From the time I was 17 until I turned 25 I had 0 relationships with any females none I was single and no one seems to pay me any attention. I finally met someone when I was 25 and now look where I am. I now know why they say love hurts and to never trust anybody. Hey Lifted. I'm really sorry that you went through this, and are going through this. This is hell, I know. I'm really glad that you got help. I remember when I was hitting rock bottom, somewhere between 2-4 months after my breakup. I decided that killing myself wasn't an option because it only transfers my pain onto numerous others (my brothers and parents mostly). I'm hearing that you don't have very close family, but you do have your son. You can decide to live for your son. I remember the days where not a minute (seconds, really) went by where I wasn't in intense pain. Going for walks, working, etc. did not take away the pain. This is torture, I totally hear you. I'm also the type who thinks 24/7 about things. I have very little ability to control my negative thoughts, and this puts people like us at a disadvantage. Remember that you do have friends at LS, and that the body has a remarkable ability to heal itself. I like Ninebreaker's suggestion of trying one new thing. Maybe not right now, maybe not tomorrow. But sometime soon. What about volunteering, or looking for a separation and divorce class, or a grief support group? I haven't gone through this entire thread (will try to go do this now), so please forgive me if I've missed something or sound repetitive. Please keep us posted.
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 10, 2009 Author Posted December 10, 2009 Thank you for the kind words SHB. It's nice to know that there are people out there just like me. My emotions are up and down honestly. 1 minute I am happy and everything is fine and then the next minute I crash and burn. That lasts usually the rest of my day. Then the next day I am fine and dandy and then I crash again. I am now starting to get alot of headaches at night. I have not had a single headache since all of this happened but all of a sudden this week I have started to get them. Before I can help my son I need to help myself. So I am going to continue trying to get help, see if the medication works and I am going to try to get my own house. I know where a great place is right now but I am not mentally ready to move into a house and pay all the bills. Anyway I have to try to get some sleep although I am actually afraid to go to sleep. Not because I might not wake up but I may not hear the alarm clock. I have become Immune to both my cell phone and my alarm clock.
soheartbroken Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Sounds like you are taking some good steps. Hope you have an okay sleep tonight. Seriously though. When you have the time and energy, look into getting into a support group, preferably for men. Divorce groups, grief groups, parenting groups (for dads - I've seen some around), and I even believe there is a group that fights for fathers to have more equal rights in custody. But you're right. Continue to try to get help, and help yourself first. Excellent ideas. I've caught up on your thread by the way. A pretty messy situation.
tier Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 hey bro sorry its taken me so long to reply...i see things have gotten way out of control. i would take everyones advise here, and not talk to her anymore, causing you to say something you dont mean...like telling the dad or bro your gonna get them, or watch your back, cause these things could show up in court...from now on, anytime you actually talk to her, record it, and let her know shes n=being recorded, cause if you dont let her know shes being recorded it cant be used in court...also print out any, and all conversations you have in your email...this will show that you actually are trying to see your son, and that it shows that she is not willing you to see him. i know some what, what your going through, i am also adopted, and dont have that parent/kid relationship either. i was like you when i was younger, always needed to be around someone, but in the past few years i figured that i prefer to be alone...ive also notice that your mood changes when she came around, like that time you came over to help me with my pc, that night you where stoked to get away from her for a few, but when you relised the next day she was comming with you, i noticed that you where in a bad mood...and that other time when we where at the rock, when i finally got there, you where in a good mood, and talkative, but than you had a call from here, and the rest of the time you where in the dumps like someone mention above, you need to find something that keeps your mind off of her...since you moved to fayetteville, you had gotten out of the car audio scene, and trucks. i dont know if your still hanging around stratusrt01, but if you are, why not see if hell let you work on his truck if he still has it, or start reading up on audio stuff again. or maybe try to learn photoshop, and make some funny pics of people you know. i still have a few friend in the la area that come out to fayetteville once a month to meet up with thier car club, if you want i can ask them to let you hang with them...you might know one of them, by the name kreativezim sure they could use a mechanic to help them with stuff, and what not. the worse thing you could ever do is to off yourself. imo it show the world that she won, and you lost...in turn stay alive, and prove to them that your stronger than they think. stay strong man.
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 11, 2009 Author Posted December 11, 2009 I have told her many and many of times that I want my visitation rights. Its not fair for my son to be taken away from either parent, but that is what she is doing to me. The best interest of my son would be for him to be able to see both his mother and father on a regular basis but I am not being allowed that option. It is not in my best interest to go to where she lives. And also the way I see it she is the one making the decisions. She may be getting persuaded to make the decisions she is making but it does not matter because in the end she is the one making the final decision. Since that last blow up with her father last week or whatever I have not heard from her at all. Its almost like she dropped off the face of the earth. Tier I never would have expected you to show up here. I appreciate the kind words and the offers. Me and Rich are no longer friends, long story I can tell you privately some other time. I never ever wanted to have to fight her for custody. Never did I want to do that. But in order for me to even get my visitation rights I have to get a lawyer for custody, you cant just get a lawyer for visitation rights they don't work that way down here. I feel a little bit better today. I really miss my son a lot. I am to the point of seeing if I can get a police escort to follow me there so I can at least spend a few minutes with my son. It is ashamed that everything turned out the way that it has. Hopefully all of this works out for the good I don't know.
Gunny376 Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 Statute: § 7B-1111 North Carolina Circumstances That Are Grounds for Termination Abandonment or Extreme Parental Disinterest Abuse/Neglect Mental Illness or Deficiency Alcohol or Drug Induced Incapacity Failure of Reasonable Efforts Abuse/Neglect or Loss of Rights of Another Child Failure to Provide Support Failure to Establish Paternity Child Judged in Need of Services/Dependent Child's Best Interest Child in care 15 of 22 months (or less) Felony assault of child or sibling Murder/Manslaughter of sibling child Circumstances That Are Not Grounds for Termination Felony Conviction/Incarceration Sexual Abuse Failure to Maintain Contact N.C. Gen. Stat. Ann. § 7B-1111 (Lexis, WESTLAW through N.C. 2003 Legis. Serv., S.L. 2003-140) The court may terminate parental rights upon a finding of one or more of the following: The parent has abused or neglected the juvenile. The parent has willfully left the juvenile in foster care or placement outside the home for more than 12 months without showing to the satisfaction of the court that reasonable progress under the circumstances has been made in correcting those conditions which led to the removal of the juvenile. Provided, however, that no parental rights shall be terminated for the sole reason that the parents are unable to care for the juvenile on account of their poverty. The juvenile has been placed in the custody of a county Department of Social Services, a licensed child-placing agency, a child-caring institution, or a foster home, and the parent, for a continuous period of 6 months next preceding the filing of the petition has willfully failed for such period to pay a reasonable portion of the cost of the care for the juvenile although physically and financially able to do so. One parent has been awarded custody of the juvenile by judicial decree or has custody by agreement of the parents, and the other parent whose parental rights are sought to be terminated has for a period of 1 year or more next preceding the filing of the petition willfully failed without justification to pay for the care, support, and education of the juvenile, as required by said decree or custody agreement. The father of a juvenile born out of wedlock has not, prior to the filing of a petition to terminate his parental rights established paternity judicially or by affidavit which has been filed in a central registry maintained by the Department of Health and Human Service; provided, the court shall inquire of the Department of Health and Human Services as to whether such affidavit has been filed and shall incorporate into the case record the department's certified reply; or legitimated the juvenile or filed a petition for this specific purpose; or legitimated the juvenile by marriage to the mother of the child; or provided substantial financial support or consistent care with respect to the juvenile and mother. That the parent is incapable of providing the proper care and supervision of the juvenile, such that the juvenile is a dependent juvenile, and that there is a reasonable probability that such incapacity will continue for the foreseeable future. Incapability may be the result of substance abuse, mental retardation, mental illness, organic brain syndrome, or any other cause or condition that renders the parent unable or unavailable to parent the juvenile and the parent lacks an appropriate alternative child care arrangement. The parent has willfully abandoned the juvenile for at least 6 consecutive months immediately preceding the filing of the petition or motion, or the parent has voluntarily abandoned an infant pursuant to § 7B-500 for at least 60 consecutive days immediately preceding the filing of the petition or motion. The parent has committed murder or voluntary manslaughter of another child of the parent or other child residing in the home; has aided, abetted, attempted, conspired, or solicited to commit murder or voluntary manslaughter of the child, another child of the parent, or other child residing in the home; or has committed felony assault that results in serious bodily injury to the child, another child of the parent, or another child residing in the home. The parental rights of the parent with respect to another child of the parent have been terminated involuntarily by a court of competent jurisdiction and the parent lacks the ability or willingness to establish a safe home. The burden in such proceedings shall be upon the petitioner or movant to prove the facts justifying such termination by clear and convincing evidence. Divorce/Seperation are two seperate issues legally in the State Of North Carolina from parential rights and visitation. Some is trying to "bufflo" you into thinking that its and either or proposition. Unless you done one of the both (or failed to have done one of the above they simply cannot negate your parential rights, and therefore resonable visitation. And if you've got some attorney telling you such then you need to get yourself another attorney. Because they're either too stupid and ignorant to be practicing law to begin with? Or they're just trying to milk you for every dime they can get out of you. Not only that? But in the State of North Carolina you have the right to sue someone for "Alienation of Affection" and it doesn't have to be the other spouse's lover. If the DW's parents keep up with their happy ways, they need to know that can be sued for the same in NC. "A 1931 jury in Forsyth County held against plaintiff wife’s father-in-law for $38,000." This was up-held in the NC Supreme Court. In so far as making threats about kicking your butt? There's laws against that. Its called "assualt and battery" To prove assualt you need but prove that you felt you were about to be attacked by the other party. Battery is where the other party actually physically assualted. Since there's a family association between you and the FIL, domestic battery laws come into affect. Other than the above statue I've listed about parential rights being terminated on 'grounds' they can neither deny your lawful parential rights of viistation. Moving on to the more pressing question of the distance between you and the enstranged wife and the DS. I would at the very least not let a lack of transportation heed my effort to make and keep in contact with the DS. You need to document and make those child support payments each week and on time. Rather than used the USPS, I would (if you don't have one already) open an account with a local bank, and send one check each month ~ a bank certified check. Make it a local bank that's been in and around Fayetteville since the evolution of dirt. The First Farmers and Merchants Bank of Fayettville, etc. Why? Because if you need to you can walk in and get copies of those bank certified checks, rather than wating weeks or months for Citibank, Wachovia, Well Fargo to pull them from the data files of Coroprate Headquarters in NYNY. The USPS takes even longer to pull them up, (think about it? How many millions of people buy USPS money orders every single day? Now even if you've got to ride the Big Grey Dog (Greyhound) you make that trip a minimum of once a month, check into a motel, and attempt to make and stay in contact with your DS. Document, document, document! You need to start a file on those trips, bus tickets, hotel receipts, phone records. A sepeartate file for each category. Even if you lose your case? (Which I very seriously doubt!) you'll have a record to show the DS when he becomes an adult. What the in-laws are attempting via the DW (which is why she is so confused) is to eradicate you out of her and the DGS's life. Sick puppies exsist! I know I was married to one of them! Their attempting nothing less that "parenital alienation" ~ that is to say they're not attempting "aleination of affection" of you from the DW, but from the DGS? They want you out of her and their lives! Even if the DW isn't sure. So let's talks good, dependable, reliable transportation. You're making $2K a month living in North Flick Carolina. You've got $1100 going out in bills. That leaves $900 a month for child support, of which you dishing out a $100 a week in child support which leave you with $500 a month. You didn't say if you were still filling Married and Three, but if you are you need to immediately need to change that to Single Claiming One. (You've got five years to file an ammended return) The last thing you need is the State and IRS all over you about taxes. The State isn't so bad, (they never forget though) ~ the IRS? Those jokers don't play! While in the seperation stage ~ its better to "over-pay" child support than to underpay it. $400 a month for NC is probally over the top ~ based upon a net of $2000 a month ~ for just one child, without the other spouse working. I won't go into the math nor the chart tables. But I would contiune with the $100 a week. It may end up more? But you'll come out even in the end. You have a right to having the State taking it out of your payroll check each week if you've been paying it all alone. I would do so. Even if you cannot afford an attorney at the time. You have a right to challenge the HRS (Human Resorces System) as to their taking it out of your check. Remember! They work for you too! Getting back to transportation? When you can? Get yourself a Toyota "Anything" Preferablly a good Toyota Corrilla (No# 1 selling car in the World) They don't stop for anything but gas, oil and tires) or Toyato x-tended cab Tacoma, ( I sold cars for six months.) Trust me, someone that's sold cars, been through hard times, bad times, seperation and divorce? A Toyota is what you want to be in for a ride. Behind that? A Mazda and then a Nissan!
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 11, 2009 Author Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) I was told by a lawyer that They did not think that I had a good case for a alienation of affection claim. I am going to do some more research today to see what I can do to be able to see him. Child support payments will start coming out of my paycheck next week, So as far as that is concerned that is out of my hand's. I honestly would love to get in a car and go see my son I honestly would. With the way things have been going I honestly fear for my life to go down there. Gunny if she even remotely cared that I wanted to see my son then she would not be letting them do this to me. If she cared she would somehow someway find a way to let me see my son. Simple part of the matter is she does not care anymore. I think this is what she honestly wants. Edited December 11, 2009 by liftedcj7on44s
Author liftedcj7on44s Posted December 22, 2009 Author Posted December 22, 2009 Ok a little update. It has been 3 weeks since I talked to her. Well anyway tonight I was surfing the web and happened to run across an ad that her brother posted on Craigslist. She is trying to sale the marital car. So I called her. I asked if she filed for a lost title. She said No. I told her that I have the title so how are you going to sale it, She said people do that dont they. I aksed her if she found out if we were married or not. She said yes we are married but seperated. I told her that if that is the case then go ahead and sale the car but whatever you get for it you owe me half of it. anyway we talked for a while. Now someone please explain this to me. She had the nerve to ask me if I was moving on. In my eyes she has already moved on, then why would she ask me such a question???
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