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November 12, 2009

ur nuts. Not EVERY woman thinks like you do. Why tell someone who is already obsessed and miserable about his height something so mean and bytchy?

Why are u blaming just me? Did you see what Ruby wrote? Do you not see a trend? instead of tryign to be so politcally correct im telling it like it is

Women get more turned on the taller the guy is over us,we feel like he can throw us around like a rag doll and dominate us its so sexy

November 12, 2009

Totally involuntary reaction.

Yeah, my stbx used to laugh at my 'desire' for her to wear heels to augment her 5'1" stature. Like yours, my reaction was purely involuntary. I didn't matter that the shoes were hidden under a gown or something, it just caused me to want to kiss her more passionately. No explanation. Guess I'll never know since we're getting a D. Oh, well

I've had similar reactions to other women, no matter their height (I've dated from my stbx's height to 5'8", so the tallest was eye level in three inch heels)....maybe it's the 'change' IDK.

Maybe, just maybe, it's not the physical height, but the change in how they (and perhaps the OP) feel with the added stature and they're projecting those feelings outward, becoming more attractive through their 'aura' of presence. Hmm....

November 12, 2009

Some people here are forgetting one important fact: short guys exist and they are all over the place. If height was such a disadvantage in the dating world, the short guys would have gone extinct long ago.

For every short guy walking around pouting about his height and contemplating getting special shoes, there is a long line of of short guys who succeeded with women just fine. Now these wienies come on here and complain about how women don't like them.

All they are really doing is threatening to terminate their own line out of fear and stupidity. Some of the short guys around here need the ghosts of their short ancestors to come and kick their asses into gear.

November 12, 2009

Maybe some short guys cna get lucky with women once in awhile but your girl will never feel the lust for you that she would would a taller guy its the harsh truth,shell proably always desire a tall guy and hope at least you can be a cuckold and let her have sex with taller men

Nope, can't agree with you there at all. I felt the strongest desire for the bf who was just 2 inches taller than I am, and the least for the one who was 6 inches taller. This has to do with many factors other than their height.

And I had a bf who was just an inch taller than me, and I felt crazy desire for him, too.

Height is just ONE factor of many.

November 12, 2009

Some people here are forgetting one important fact: short guys exist and they are all over the place. If height was such a disadvantage in the dating world, the short guys would have gone extinct long ago.

For every short guy walking around pouting about his height and contemplating getting special shoes, there is a long line of of short guys who succeeded with women just fine. Now these wienies come on here and complain about how women don't like them.

All they are really doing is threatening to terminate their own line out of fear and stupidity. Some of the short guys around here need the ghosts of their short ancestors to come and kick their asses into gear.

People are getting much taller which tells you shorter people are lesesning,im not saying short guys cant get women but all women deisre tall guys even if theyre married to short ones

November 12, 2009

Because you are insentsitive. You are here to help, not make em draw further into their problems/unhappiness.

So you agree with me you are just trying to make them feel better, i see

November 12, 2009

Some people here are forgetting one important fact: short guys exist and they are all over the place. If height was such a disadvantage in the dating world, the short guys would have gone extinct long ago.

For every short guy walking around pouting about his height and contemplating getting special shoes, there is a long line of of short guys who succeeded with women just fine. Now these wienies come on here and complain about how women don't like them.

All they are really doing is threatening to terminate their own line out of fear and stupidity. Some of the short guys around here need the ghosts of their short ancestors to come and kick their asses into gear.

You can't reason with the unreasonable J.

November 12, 2009

You can't reason with the unreasonable J.

That's true, C. One thing that isn't evolving out of our species is stupidity. LS is the place to go if you ever want to put your doubts about that to rest.

November 12, 2009

The last guy I dated (an inch taller than I -- I'm tall) wore shoes with thicker soles on our 4th or 5th date, and I'm not gonna lie, it turned me on that for once he was noticeably taller. I still found him sexy at my height, but with some height over me, I couldn't help being even more turned on. Totally involuntary reaction.

Thank you , atleast you're honest.

i'm tired of all the people here saying "BE YOURSELF! SOMEONE WILL LOVE YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT NO MATTER WHAT *"

*just not me or most of the people I know

Nobody is asking you women how you would ideally react to a guy who is not that tall but a great and otherwise attractive person, so stop giving idealist answers. Sure being tall alone won't guarantee you will be attractive to women, just like being slim won't guarantee you will be attractive to men, but that doesn't counteract the fact that dating for a shorter than average guy and an overweight woman is far more difficult and far poorer in quality than if they didn't look that way. You could say "but then they don't deserve you" over and over, but it's flawed to believe that. We're both considered the lowest of the low in our respective genders.

Doesn't mean anything about my self-esteem. I'm proud of myself , what I have accomplished, that I'm a decent person who lives with pride and honor. But I am not a retard, I can see judge what women find attractive by the guys I see getting all the girls, and sure, these guys have more than height going for them, but their height seems to be the common denominator.

So fat girls ,lose weight and your dating pool will increase. Short guys, not much we can do, so we can wear shoe lifts and our dating pool will increase as well. I rarely take off my shoes as i hate being barefoot, so a girl finding that I wear lifts if I did wear them wouldn't be an issue.

You women hating us for doing this, screw you! Don't give me that crap that you wear pushup bras, makeup, hair dye, or high heels for yourself (unless of course you are asexual or a narcissist). And women are far worse, because it is practically unheard of for a man to reject a woman for her hair color, brand of clothes she wears, or even breast size (unless this guy is the 1% of super wealthy, perfect guys who thinks women are objects) while height will make it or break it with women regardless of everything else!

Edited November 12, 2009 by cognac

November 12, 2009

You can't reason with the unreasonable J.

I know - right?

I'm starting to think women SHOULD stay away from shorter guys. If this thread is any indication, it seems they have some issues one might wish to avoid. Maybe THEY should only date tall men since they're so convinced of the superiority of male height.

November 12, 2009

Thank you , atleast you're honest.

i'm tired of all the people here saying "BE YOURSELF! SOMEONE WILL LOVE YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT NO MATTER WHAT *"

*just not me or most of the people I know

Nobody is asking you women how you would ideally react to a guy who is not that tall but a great and otherwise attractive person, so stop giving idealist answers. Sure being tall alone won't guarantee you will be attractive to women, just like being slim won't guarantee you will be attractive to men, but that doesn't counteract the fact that dating for a shorter than average guy and an overweight woman is far more difficult and far poorer in quality than if they didn't look that way. You could say "but then they don't deserve you" over and over, but it's flawed to believe that. We're both considered the lowest of the low in our respective genders.

Doesn't mean anything about my self-esteem. I'm proud of myself , what I have accomplished, that I'm a decent person who lives with pride and honor. But I am not a retard, I can see judge what women find attractive by the guys I see getting all the girls, and sure, these guys have more than height going for them, but their height seems to be the common denominator.

So fat girls ,lose weight and your dating pool will increase. Short guys, not much we can do, so we can wear shoe lifts and our dating pool will increase as well. I rarely take off my shoes as i hate being barefoot, so a girl finding that I wear lifts if I did wear them wouldn't be an issue.

You women hating us for doing this, screw you! Don't give me that crap that you wear pushup bras, makeup, hair dye, or high heels for yourself (unless of course you are asexual or a narcissist). And women are far worse, because it is practically unheard of for a man to reject a woman for her hair color, brand of clothes she wears, or even breast size (unless this guy is the 1% of super wealthy, perfect guys who thinks women are objects) while height will make it or break it with women regardless of everything else!

Dude, you're pissing me off. You're about the same height I am. While you say that your self-esteem is unaffected, you still expend a lot of energy analyzing what women like. That's no self esteem, that's neediness. Who the f cares what they like? Height matters, get over it. But although as an aesthetical consideration it matters, it is no substitute for attractiveness. In any social context, the interaction matters hell of a lot more than aesthetics. I routinely defeat guys who are taller than me - literally (in the wrestling gym), and figuratively - every time you need to explain a frat boy, an administrator, an incompetent colleague etc. that they are full of it.

Guess who's more attractive. The taller pretty boy or whoever dominates the interaction? Unlike women, who cannot possibly compensate for their lack of physical attractiveness, men have no insurmountable limits on enhancing their attractivenes (barring severe disfigurement).

I had a friend back in college who was - and still it - 5'4" (sic!). He has ****ed more women than anybody I know just through his ability of unapologetically dominating any social context he found himself in. One night I watched him take two (yes, two) pretty girls he just met home. They paid for his drinks too.

So quit whining, rent the movie "Heat" and take notes from Al Pacino (who's 5'7") on how to tell people (but mostly yourself) to stop wasting your ****ing time. (Also, go see a couple of hookers. This may help yo pull your head out of your azz as well.)

November 12, 2009

You must be homely then.

Dang it, I was trying to hide that about myself, because it makes me insecure.

It's not a sweaty smell - it's called "glowing" .

Maybe I'll be glowing if I start farting my natural farts too

Youre an exception lets be honest,guy walks into a social setting and maybe 1 out of 100 girls therye will even look at the short guy and thats if his face is handsome

Eh, I think you are the exception to be honest. I see hundreds of people through out the day where I work. I see all shapes and sizes together. All different looks, probably all sorts of personalities.

November 12, 2009

how are my manlet shoes any different than a miracle bra or whatever they are called? How is it different than wearing makeup to make myself look younger than I actually am?

November 12, 2009

Thank you , atleast you're honest.

i'm tired of all the people here saying "BE YOURSELF! SOMEONE WILL LOVE YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT NO MATTER WHAT *"

*just not me or most of the people I know,

Maybe it's your attitude.

Nobody is asking you women how you would ideally react to a guy who is not that tall but a great and otherwise attractive person, so stop giving idealist answers. Sure being tall alone won't guarantee you will be attractive to women, just like being slim won't guarantee you will be attractive to men, but that doesn't counteract the fact that dating for a shorter than average guy and an overweight woman is far more difficult and far poorer in quality than if they didn't look that way. You could say "but then they don't deserve you" over and over, but it's flawed to believe that. We're both considered the lowest of the low in our respective genders.

Did it occur to you that we are giving our honest answers? I was honest, I like guys between a certain height. I don't like guys shorter then me, but I'm not that tall. CE is even shorter, so she's more apt to go for guys that are my height or shorter. I know plenty of girls that are my height and shorter. So really your dating pool isn't that limited. And a taller guy's is limited from girls who don't like guys overly tall.

There are also heavier guys and even not heavier guys that like a girl with more meat on her bones.

Doesn't mean anything about my self-esteem. I'm proud of myself , what I have accomplished, that I'm a decent person who lives with pride and honor. But I am not a retard, I can see judge what women find attractive by the guys I see getting all the girls, and sure, these guys have more than height going for them, but their height seems to be the common denominator.

You still don't get it. Just because someone has certain physical features doesn't mean they have so much going for them. There personality can suck regardless. A girl who is looking for a decent guy is not going to pass up the shorter with a better personality then the taller with crappy personality. But a tall guy with an okay personality is going to get picked over oh say you, with your insecurities and crappy attitude.

So fat girls ,lose weight and your dating pool will increase. Short guys, not much we can do, so we can wear shoe lifts and our dating pool will increase as well. I rarely take off my shoes as i hate being barefoot, so a girl finding that I wear lifts if I did wear them wouldn't be an issue.

Your shoe lifts doesn't make you taller, though, it just means your perceived to be taller. And it will be obvious when you wear them. And eventually a girl will realize you are not that height, and if they want a taller guy they will pass on you when the realize that.

You women hating us for doing this, screw you! Don't give me that crap that you wear pushup bras, makeup, hair dye, or high heels for yourself (unless of course you are asexual or a narcissist). And women are far worse, because it is practically unheard of for a man to reject a woman for her hair color, brand of clothes she wears, or even breast size (unless this guy is the 1% of super wealthy, perfect guys who thinks women are objects) while height will make it or break it with women regardless of everything else!

Just because you want to alter your appearance for the dating scene doesn't mean the rest of us do and are that insecure. Don't hate us because we like who we are inside and out, when you can't seem to do that.

By the way... "you women" just sounds like you are hateful to women in general, which I'm sure is what is limiting your dating options.

November 12, 2009

how are my manlet shoes any different than a miracle bra or whatever they are called? How is it different than wearing makeup to make myself look younger than I actually am?

Not everyone was the miracle bra. And considering girls 18-28ish don't need to look younger, why would that be the reason we wear make up?

November 12, 2009

Exactly height is sexy we want to feel small and dominated its wired into us

Maybe some short guys cna get lucky with women once in awhile but your girl will never feel the lust for you that she would would a taller guy its the harsh truth,shell proably always desire a tall guy and hope at least you can be a cuckold and let her have sex with taller men

This is nonsense.

November 12, 2009

People are getting much taller which tells you shorter people are lesesning,im not saying short guys cant get women but all women deisre tall guys even if theyre married to short ones

LOL. I am far more turned off by people who can't reason than by those who are short.

Best sex I ever had was with a BF who was maybe 5'8" (I'm 5'7").

I am not sure I ever thought about height as a "deal-maker" or "deal-breaker" until I came on this forum.

November 12, 2009

LOL. I am far more turned off by people who can't reason than by those who are short.

Best sex I ever had was with a BF who was maybe 5'8" (I'm 5'7").

I am not sure I ever thought about height as a "deal-maker" or "deal-breaker" until I came on this forum.

I always thought we were evolving to become a taller species too, till I hear the latest studies on this on NPR the other day.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-are-we-getting-taller&page=2

Here is a link that discusses what I mean. As a species we DID rapidly become taller, but only during a particular point in our history. It was a reflection of better medical care and better nutrition. Since then, we have begun to level off. The NPR report also claimed that women are becoming smaller again and that THAT could be a reflection of of breeding preference in that MEN are choosing shorter women (little man complex rearing a vengeful and compensating head?).

November 12, 2009

I've noticed that most of the time people have unbending preferences like that it's because they are insecure and looking for something in a partner that they are lacking themselves. If a girl cannot feel feminine or that she can be dominated unless she is dating a taller guy, that is HER problem, HER insecurity issue, NO ONE elses. These girls are the exception and not the rule. For every girl out there that can't date a guy unless they are 5'10" or taller there are 3 more attractive girls that can.

This can go for insecure guys as well. There are some guys out there that are intimidated by the idea of being with a girl close to their height, and must date very petite girls in order to feel masculine. They date girls that are considered 'spinners' or 'fun sized' because they do not feel manly around any other kind of girl. This is all due to their own insecurity as well.

It's my opinion that the rest of people out there tend to be truely attracted to people they are anatomically compatible with. Standing at 5'10" barefoot, slightly above the national male average, I happen to be most attracted to girls that are 5'6" - 5'7", slightly above the national female average. It is in no way a deal breaker, but my longest relationships have been with girls that are actually somewhat closer to my own height. It's just my personal taste. Every single person out there has their own individual tastes, and desire different things from perspective partners.

The people that are unbending in who they will date are the exception and not the rule. NEEDING to have something in another person that you do not have yourself is total insecurity, and it should be no sweat off your back, wether male or female, if you do not fall into their 'strict' dating pool.

I may not know what it is like to walk in a guy's shoes who is 5'7", but it's not like I can't call BS when I see it. A guy who is insecure enough to wear elevator shoes is no better than a girl who is insecure enough to turn down guys for their average height.

November 12, 2009

I've noticed that most of the time people have unbending preferences like that it's because they are insecure and looking for something in a partner that they are lacking themselves. If a girl cannot feel feminine or that she can be dominated unless she is dating a taller guy, that is HER problem, HER insecurity issue, NO ONE elses. These girls are the exception and not the rule. For every girl out there that can't date a guy unless they are 5'10" or taller there are 3 more attractive girls that can.

This can go for insecure guys as well. There are some guys out there that are intimidated by the idea of being with a girl close to their height, and must date very petite girls in order to feel masculine. They date girls that are considered 'spinners' or 'fun sized' because they do not feel manly around any other kind of girl. This is all due to their own insecurity as well.

It's my opinion that the rest of people out there tend to be truely attracted to people they are anatomically compatible with. Standing at 5'10" barefoot, slightly above the national male average, I happen to be most attracted to girls that are 5'6" - 5'7", slightly above the national female average. It is in no way a deal breaker, but my longest relationships have been with girls that are actually somewhat closer to my own height. It's just my personal taste. Every single person out there has their own individual tastes, and desire different things from perspective partners.

The people that are unbending in who they will date are the exception and not the rule. NEEDING to have something in another person that you do not have yourself is total insecurity, and it should be no sweat off your back, wether male or female, if you do not fall into their 'strict' dating pool.

I may not know what it is like to walk in a guy's shoes who is 5'7", but it's not like I can't call BS when I see it. A guy who is insecure enough to wear elevator shoes is no better than a girl who is insecure enough to turn down guys for their average height.

Yet it's okay for women to wear padded bras and wear makeup. I get it.

November 12, 2009

Yet it's okay for women to wear padded bras and wear makeup. I get it.

Lol, I never said that. In fact I said otherwise in another post. Elevator shoes are included right in there with any other falsification of looks.

November 12, 2009

Lol, I never said that. In fact I said otherwise in another post. Elevator shoes are included right in there with any other falsification of looks.

How about men using rogaine?

People with scars covering them up with makeup or using scar fade?

Is it okay for women who have had masectomys use prosthetics, or is that falsification of looks as well?

November 12, 2009

How about men using rogaine?

People with scars covering them up with makeup or using scar fade?

Is it okay for women who have had masectomys use prosthetics, or is that falsification of looks as well?

Since none of these instances apply to you and Lonesocks wise words while true, have not got him voted as Ultimate Qualifier, why do you ask these things? You can get help or you can get arguments, but trying for both at the same time impinges the help you might get.

November 12, 2009

How about men using rogaine?

People with scars covering them up with makeup or using scar fade?

Is it okay for women who have had masectomys use prosthetics, or is that falsification of looks as well?

Lol, what are you trying to put me on the defensive or something?

You could have answered all those questions on your own big boy. Although most of the time prosthetics are used to replace something that was lost tragically or due to necessary medical operations, and are therefore legit.

There is a difference between losing your hair due to age and losing your breasts due to a fight with cancer. One is vain and one is not.

Edited November 12, 2009 by TheLoneSock
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November 12, 2009

Yeah, my stbx used to laugh at my 'desire' for her to wear heels to augment her 5'1" stature. Like yours, my reaction was purely involuntary. I didn't matter that the shoes were hidden under a gown or something, it just caused me to want to kiss her more passionately. No explanation.

Nothing strange about that at all. Just like women, men find height attractive (up to a certain limit though). I mean, why else would women wear high heels??

A man wearing 'lifting shoes' is really no different from a woman wearing high heels. The only difference is that female insecurities are socially acceptable, while male insecurities aren't.

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