I bought a pair of manlet shoes online

[johan]

I think comparing it to women's behavior in order to use the "if they do it then I can, too." is a bit idiotic. Forget what women do (unless you'd like to actually be one). This is about guys. And guys shouldn't be "padding their bras", regardless of what women do. Lifts are the quickest shortcut to making yourself look like a total clown.

 

On the other hand, I know the world is full of guys who have no problem looking like idiots. So I guess you pro-lift guys are in that crowd. In the big picture suppose it's to my advantage. So never mind. And, I guess, thanks.

[johan]

Pour your vitriol elsewhere buddy, maybe you'll get a bite

 

I didn't notice any vitriol.

[Rudderless]

I didn't notice any vitriol.

That's nice, but I can list about 2220000 in his past posts, so if he wants to continue playing the troll, I'll be happy to alert and let someone who actually counts notice it.

[dreamergrl]

Which is a hell of a lot better than going through some surgery that might paralyse him.

 

That surgery was brought up by you

 

I agree you didn't call him lame, but I certainly think you're backing up the person that did in focusing on the whole thing about lifts being a turnoff.

 

Well the many threads previously of women telling him height wasn't an issue didn't do much good, now did it?

 

I did ask you directly dreamer

 

To which you responded

 

You don't seem to have answered that question. *shrug*. So OP, forget about the lifts because those are a turnoff, do what the women do and just go and get some surgery so it's "real" ok.

 

I'm sorry if my answer wasn't specific enough when I said I could understand a guy being turned off by something deceptive.

[Rudderless]

That surgery was brought up by you

 

 

 

Well the many threads previously of women telling him height wasn't an issue didn't do much good, now did it?

 

 

 

I'm sorry if my answer wasn't specific enough when I said I could understand a guy being turned off by something deceptive.

 

Yes, I brought it up, and I think he should have it if it will improve his confidence. Not least because no-one will notice, after all that's the only problem we're talking about here.

[DanielMadr]

I think comparing it to women's behavior in order to use the "if they do it then I can, too." is a bit idiotic. Forget what women do (unless you'd like to actually be one). This is about guys. And guys shouldn't be "padding their bras", regardless of what women do. Lifts are the quickest shortcut to making yourself look like a total clown.

 

On the other hand, I know the world is full of guys who have no problem looking like idiots. So I guess you pro-lift guys are in that crowd. In the big picture suppose it's to my advantage. So never mind. And, I guess, thanks.

 

I love you, man. Not in a gay way though.

 

Bullseye as always.

 

Don't mind the vitriol remark, some people can't face reality.

[dreamergrl]

Yes, I brought it up, and I think he should have it if it will improve his confidence. Not least because no-one will notice, after all that's the only problem we're talking about here.

 

And if it doesn't? If he can't handle the three month process? What if he goes through that process and it doesn't get him a girl because his mental outlook remains the same? I think most who are obsessed with something like this have deeper issues at hand. Around the corner is another obsession and wanting another fix. Then where does it stop?

[johan]

That's nice, but I can list about 2220000 in his past posts...

 

That's a lot! Seems like I would have noticed if there was that much of it going on.

[Rudderless]

Don't mind the vitriol remark, some people can't face reality.

Thanks man, that's the funniest thing I've read all day.

[Rudderless]

And if it doesn't? If he can't handle the three month process? What if he goes through that process and it doesn't get him a girl because his mental outlook remains the same? I think most who are obsessed with something like this have deeper issues at hand. Around the corner is another obsession and wanting another fix. Then where does it stop?

 

Perhaps he'll find something else to obsess about. Either way, given the popularity of male surgery and the general acceptance that it's ok to do something about your looks, it's really an non-issue. The most pressing issue appears to be the fact that it will be lame when he takes his shoes off.

[DanielMadr]

That's a lot! Seems like I would have noticed if there was that much of it going on.

 

He is probably stalking me and exaggerating a little just to make a monster of me - then he could discard the facts of life I present and have a good night sleep.

 

Well, I'm going to make a dinner. Thanks for your input...made feel I'm not the only one.

 

Care to tell me what is exactly your avatar/ I've never seen it.

 

Later.

[Rudderless]

He is probably stalking me and exaggerating a little just to make a monster of me - then he could discard the facts of life I present and have a good night sleep.

It's amazing how you keep describing yourself.

[dreamergrl]

Perhaps he'll find something else to obsess about. Either way, given the popularity of male surgery and the general acceptance that it's ok to do something about your looks, it's really an non-issue. The most pressing issue appears to be the fact that it will be lame when he takes his shoes off.

 

OP started a thread about these shoes or whatever. He got responses. He didn't listen to any prior advice about his height issue. I'm not sure what else was to be expected. Would it have been better had we all told him how great it would be if he got lifts, and had his spirits up so he could get let down further when he tries it out and it doesn't work?

[Rudderless]

OP started a thread about these shoes or whatever. He got responses. He didn't listen to any prior advice about his height issue. I'm not sure what else was to be expected. Would it have been better had we all told him how great it would be if he got lifts, and had his spirits up so he could get let down further when he tries it out and it doesn't work?

No, you're totally correct. He doesn't listen to advice about height. He should forget about the lifts they are lame and look silly when they come off.

 

Here's a relevant link to limb lengthening surgery which it appears will serve him better.

 

http://www.limblengthening.com/

[dreamergrl]

No, you're totally correct. He doesn't listen to advice about height. He should forget about the lifts they are lame and look silly when they come off.

 

Here's a relevant link to limb lengthening surgery which it appears will serve him better.

 

http://www.limblengthening.com/

 

I think what would serve OP best is talking to a professional about his insecurity obsessive issues before considering a surgery that may lead him down a line of more surgery when he finds a new obsession.

[Rudderless]

I think what would serve OP best is talking to a professional about his insecurity obsessive issues before considering a surgery that may lead him down a line of more surgery when he finds a new obsession.

 

He hasn't listened to such advice and wants to get taller. It's better to be practical I think, that much is apparent. You and others are correct about the shoes, so I think he should try them out, see how they feel, then consider saving up for some surgery to make it appear real.

[virgin]

I never said I haven't been insecure with my body in the past, but I've learned to accept it. There's been times where I wondered what I would be like with implants, but I never went through with it, and I never could. I focus on other aspects now, positive ones.

 

I never called anyone lame either.

 

You can't focus on the psychological part when the person in question is in denial about it. If he'd realize that when he takes them off, the girl is going to be turned off (likely, not for sure) he'd be saving himself some embarrassment and let down. I don't think another dig at his self confidence with that is going to be beneficial - psychologically.

 

For what its worth, I find women with smaller breasts very attractive, so I guess everyone has their preferences and opinions. I'm not saying its a dealbreaker(I'm in no place to be picky) but a woman with a big chest would have to have other qualities.

 

Tom Cruise is a "manlet" but yet he has no problems.

[Rudderless]

Tom Cruise is a "manlet" but yet he has no problems.

 

The only reason he doesn't have problems is because he's rich and famous. Without that he would not have a girlfriend. Quite simply, tall men are physically and mentally superior, have an evolutionary advantage, have a better quality of life, earn more, and can attract women much easier. For every inch betamanlet gains he'll get $950 dollar per year.

 

http://www.livescience.com/culture/090711-taller-money.html

 

Think about it, he's invested $70 dollars into some shoes over the next 20 years that will pay back over $20,000 that's a huge return on investment. Ok so he may look stupid, but then he can invest that money in limb surgery make it look real and make a profit, plus he'll get to bang the chicks, double winner.

 

Hell, if he gets surgery AND wears his manlets that's over $40,000! A huge increase in happiness, and a better chance of having a family, as shorter men have less children. So who cares what a few people on a forum think when there's that much at stake? People are asking him to dump his manlets and see a shrink, that's a return of -$70+shrink fees, plus he doesn't get to bang as many chicks or live as happy a life. What's the argument?

[TheLoneSock]

No, you're totally correct. He doesn't listen to advice about height. He should forget about the lifts they are lame and look silly when they come off.

 

Here's a relevant link to limb lengthening surgery which it appears will serve him better.

 

http://www.limblengthening.com/

 

LOL. His money would be much better spent on personal therapy than invasive, vain surgery.

[dreamergrl]

You just can't compare OP to people like Tom. There's how many other reasons (good and bad) girls would hook up with Tom?

 

Besides... him and Katie are no more.. their marriage contract is up and isn't getting redone

[cognac]

I don't get why people here pretend the height thing is an isolated case or a coincidence that we interpret as women hating shortish guys. I have read the experiences of all the shortish guys here (5'7 and down) and the general concensus and experiences are generally the same as mine, that not being atleast average height (around 5'10 in the USA) is a crippling disability in the eyes of women and a deal breaker for most.

 

So drmrgirl you can keep telling us over and over your preference for guys between 5'7 to 5'10 (i wonder how tall your current boyfriend is ) but the fact is 99% of women do not share your preference. Exceptions do not disprove the rule when everywhere except the loveshack internet forum, women will pick the tall guy over the shorter guys regardless of almost everything else.

[sally4sara]

I don't get why people here pretend the height thing is an isolated case or a coincidence that we interpret as women hating shortish guys. I have read the experiences of all the shortish guys here (5'7 and down) and the general concensus and experiences are generally the same as mine, that not being atleast average height (around 5'10 in the USA) is a crippling disability in the eyes of women and a deal breaker for most.

 

And guys hate on tallish women as the articles and research also show men choose according to height (a height that places them as the taller person of the couple). This implies the only real hating going on is folks who are not getting laid. Whining about how tall you're not never got anyone laid.

 

It is guys who make height a problem for guys. It is guys who will torment a short guy for being short. It is guys who need to suss out who the big d!c{ in the room is and height is one of the ways they look to to decide this. Women see this. They watch the odd guy out get impotent over his assigned position in the pecking order. They see him believe the opinion of others and fold under it rather than remember his personal selling points. His pride is seen as such a front that it dissolved under scrutiny the moment it was challenged. She and anyone who witnesses is aware he didn't have any pride or confidence in the first place.

Women are not put off by a shorter stature. They are put off by false bravado and a guy with no resolve in the belief he has value.

[dreamergrl]

S4S - Betamanlet was so kind to inform us in another thread, the whole height thing was just a big joke (aka troll). I wouldn't waste any more time on it.

[betamanlet]

S4S - Betamanlet was so kind to inform us in another thread, the whole height thing was just a big joke (aka troll). I wouldn't waste any more time on it.

 

 

I did buy the shoes online. Are you afraid that I might get more female interest in me if I'm 6'1 rather than 5'10? I got them to conduct an experiment.

[sally4sara]

S4S - Betamanlet was so kind to inform us in another thread, the whole height thing was just a big joke (aka troll). I wouldn't waste any more time on it.

 

How histrionic of him.......