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Have been thinking a lot today, and last night about my marriage and my relationship with my wife in general. Funny how a night of drunkenness can do that. I realized that, as much as I hate what she has become, I turned her into that. In a way, I unknowingly am to blame for my own heartbreaking divorce. In the end, it truly is possible to give too much, to care too much and to sacrifice too much for the one that you love.

 

Early on in our relationship, when we first moved in together, she brought debt, student loans, a bad car note and a ton of school work. She had never been on her own before. Went from Daddies arms to mine directly. We had nothing, to call our own but a few scraps of hand me down furniture and the clothes on our backs, but I loved her, and did what had to be done to get by. I did it because i loved her.

 

That wound up meaning staying in a crappy job I hated and selling most of my toys to finance our life together. Took most of my hobbies and interests and to be honest, most of my friends and pushed them aside in order for her to focus on school and her career, her writing etc. She never asked me to do this mind you, much was sacrificed without her knowledge. I did it because I loved her.

 

As our time went on, I tried my best to improve our life. She progressed in her career, pursued her interests. achieved her first degree and I urged her to get a nicer car more befitting her new job, the beginning of a promising career. I was proud of her! Wanted to support her. So I stuck with my dead end job that I hated and drove the best the junk budget car lots had to offer. I did it because I loved her.

 

Time passes, new furniture, another, nicer car for her. She gets her name on some door, becomes published, and is as happy as can be. Her debt is gone, and we move to a better class of life, a real vacation for a change. She smiles at all that she has accomplished and I bask in her light from the shadows, dirty fingernails and busted knuckles. An investment in our future, I did it because I loved her.

 

Time for a home, A brand new car for her. Her time is precious and everyone knows her name. Lectures, seminars, meetings and banquets. A masters degree. Nice to meet you professor this and hello DR. that. Me?, I'm no body, just a guy that paints cars, and gets dirty for a living., thats my girl over there, I'm so proud of her! I'll wait here. I did it because I loved her.

 

With this ring i thee wed..., She joins another committee, teaches another late class. Working from home after hours and days off. thats alright, I'll see you when you can. Have to fluff the resume, finish the manuscript, write the presentation to get ahead. I'll wait up. I did it because I loved her.

 

My turn now! I miss my wife. I've done my job, our futures secure, debt free, money in the bank. Our own roof over our head and plenty of food in our bellies. It's time to live, enjoy the fruits of our labor we've earned it, together, side by side. This is the time that makes it all worth while. I did it because i loved her.

 

She doesn't want to be married anymore. I'm too selfish, want to many material things. She needs space and to be free, and to not have to worry about anyone else for awhile. She needs her own life, we grew apart. She needs to find herself. She asks me to let her go, and in the end,

I DID IT BECAUSE I LOVED HER!

TOJAZ

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ahhhh man, crap, i'm so sorry tojaz.

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I've got tears in my eyes after reading that - life is such a bitch, I feel for you.

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That's what you get from "whisky thinking' ~ and such.

 

You come across as a very intelligent, thoughtful and compassionate guy.

 

And it will be on your mind all the years of the rest of your life.

 

I live in a university town, and I've seen it many times. When its the woman that obtains the degrees, the professional success, career they've worked for and dreamed of? It usually goes about fifty-fifty?

 

When it doesn't? It usually because they feel a disconnect between their professional life and their personal life ~ the proverbial trying to make the square peg fit the round hole.

 

My college speech professor with a Masters from LSU, was like that. Absolutely brilliant, compassionate, was over the debate team. But she wore her hair down to the small of her back, always wore long sleeve dresses down to her ankle. Why? To cover her tattoos ~ and when the Big Dogs finally meet her husband, the biker type with hair down to his shoulder and tattoos?

 

She lost her job. Why? "She's not our type." Oh they used some BS reason to get rid of her,...................she wasn't working on her PhD yada~yada.

 

So there's that pressure there. But she stood her ground and was who she was ~ the person that she was ~ and stayed married to the man she loved and didn't compromise her integrity.

 

She eventually found another job with another university. Making more money.

 

Did you fail her? Did you fail the marriage?

 

IMHO ~ no! You made her who and what she is. What she has and has achieved in life was from the sweat of your brow ~ and apparently your long term health.

 

I know you love her ~ and probably always will. And I know your still in love with her. And probably will for awhile to yet come.

 

But sometimes, the love we give someone isn't deserved. The compassion and devotion we give someone isn't deserved.

 

She doesn't want to be married anymore. I'm too selfish, want to many material things. She needs space and to be free, and to not have to worry about anyone else for awhile. She needs her own life, we grew apart. She needs to find herself. She asks me to let her go, and in the end,

 

Absolute, complete USDA certified, lab-tested and verified BS! :mad:

 

The thing she's not getting and isn't comprehending is? Guys like you only come along once in a lifetime! She'll look long and hard before she finds someone like you.

 

College professors and PhD's are some of the biggest @zzhats I've ever meet. Their egotistical, full of themselves, and most of all? A legend in their own minds"

 

But when it comes to construction, plumbing, painting, carpentry, auto body repair, mechanics, etc? They're dumber than dirt.

 

In the Marines we used to call college educated officers, "College Educated Idiots ~ in that many of them had their common sense educated right out of them"

 

A Marine Master Gunny Sergeant with over thirty years in the Marine Corps once taught a class to a bunch of budding Marine Officer Candidates.

 

Some of them had been to state universities, some had been to Ivy League universities.

 

Some of them had majored in liberal arts, some were science majors, others had majored in engineering, math, physics........................

 

The MGySgt (Master Gunnery Sergeant) told them ~ as a homework assignment ~ to write out a written order.

 

To put up a flag pole. (Think the Marine Corps Mouerment of the flag raising at Iwo Jima)

 

He told them. You've got a Gunnery Sergeant, two Sergenats, four Lance Corporals, along with X amount of rope, a flag pole, three hold diggers, six shovels.

 

The English majors wrote long and in depth essays about how to do each little step.

 

The math majors used their TI-95 calculators, algebra, geometry, and tirgonomentry ~ even caluclus to solve the tragectory and angles of raising up the flag pole.

 

The next day?

 

He came in and told them they all had failed the assignment.

 

They were all shocked and in awe? How could that be?

 

He told them.

 

All you had to do was write was "Gunny, put the flag pole up!"

 

Your fresh from having been burned ~ and if you feel like I did when I was where you at now? You would be ashes by now.

 

Your being way, way, way too hard on yourself about all of this.

 

You really did all you could do, you gave all you could give. And that's all anyone could expect of you.

 

Granted! You did and gave the best you knew to do and give at the time, (BTW my friend? Your way~way far ahead of the curve on that one than most men. Most men don't even have a clue ~ and what is worse? Never will. When it comes to inter-personal relationships? You've a inate sense of it)

 

Your smarter, wiser and more experienced now.

 

You've got a lot to offer the right woman ~ you've got a lot to give.

 

What one woman/man will abuse? Another can certainly use.

 

People come and go? But one thing is for sure and certain!

 

There's not one monkey that makes a show! (Speaking generally not specifically)

 

Anything she has or had to offer?

 

You can find just as much of if not more! Just as good as ~ if not better!

 

And that is an absolute fact!

 

You've got to get like a little gal I know in Texas who at age 38 came down with a form of brain cancer that has never been found in an adult or anyone over the age of six.

 

Made world wide medical history in such.

 

My baby half-sister who told the Dr's. "I'll die when I get good and ready to!" (Guess the piss and vinger is in the blood? :laugh::p And yea my Mama is a Hellcat too!)

 

I know your down Bro, but your not out!

 

I know the 'Storms of Life" have been rolling over you one after another.

 

But there's another side of Life after all of this!

 

I know!

 

I lived it!

 

Its been "Fire on the Mountain" and trouble in the hills! Its been all day tough!

 

To be honest?

 

Its been one hell of a mother trucker!

 

There's been times I thought I would lose my mind!

 

And there's been times I surely thought I had lost my mind!

 

It will test you!

 

As you've never been tested before.

 

It will bring you to your knees, and you will clap your hands together and beg before almighty God and beg for mercy.

 

But there is anotherside of divorce.

 

What you are going through?

 

Is the "Healing Fire"

 

Don't date nor get involed with anyone while going through it.

 

The best way I can possibly describe it is slapping a hot branding iron on an open wound to stop the bleeding.

 

Skip Ewing describes it best with a song of the same name.

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Ugh, I know what that's like. I can sort of relate. You're being too hard on yourself - you didn't turn her into anything she didn't want to be.

 

I know it's tough but.. I don't really know what to say.. except you're not alone.

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I did twenty + years in the Corps because I loved the American people!

 

"Ask not what your country can do for you!

 

But what you can do for your Country!"

 

John F. Kennedy

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Tojaz

 

Alas your story is oft repeated, the one spouse, busts their butt to get their SO through medical or law school only to be dumped. My experience with college professors is that their marriages only last about 10 years, win the trade in their old spouse for one of their former students.

 

In my case, when we met the XW was a college drop out, and I flat told her if she wanted to be the mother of my children she had to finish her degree. Simply for the fact that should something happen to me, I would know that our kids would not end up in the street. She graduated with a degree in electronics. I too helped with what I could, especially her history classes, but the math and electronics was beyond me. I gave he a place to stay, and food on the table, and kept pushing her to study. I guess this is where I became controlling

 

After the break up, though it hurt like hell, I have always been proud that I did give everything to love.

 

When love does find you again, and it will, appreciate it. That might be the one difference between my relationship with my XW and the present GF, I got a second chance, I am giving it my all, and this time maybe I appreciate it more than I did with the XW.

 

Also, do not look upon yourself for being a sucker for giving too much to your wife. There are women out there who would love to have a man love them as you did your wife. Somehow they know.

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Don't beat yourself up for your way of loving her. Your way of showing love to your W was special. When you're a good, honest, loving person who is unselfish and giving, it can be taken advantage of and in your case, and many, it's to those we love most that end up not appreciating us in return and take us for granted.

 

I raised 3 kids and worked menial jobs so my H could free himself up and devote most of his energies to getting a degree, a fantastic career and in that time he published 3 books. At the end of ten years, when the kids were just about to move on with their lives and it would have just been him and me, he told me "I just don't see a future with you." Once he acquired all there was he decided I wasn't good enough for him and went on his happy way with a woman he met at his company. It makes you feel disposable and worthless and it's a struggle to find yourself again. I am still in the process of it but am so close, so very close to loving me for me.

 

We are good people. What they did to us was mean and nasty beyond belief, but remember, it's what they did, not us. We were there for them through it all and at the end of it...we were tossed aside, like garbage. They did it wrong. They are the ones messed up.

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Oh, my heart is aching for you. I'm weeping like a baby. What a beautiful soul you are.

Thank you for posting that. I hope you find comfort and peace soon.

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Thanks everyone, but I'm not beating myself up. Not in the least. I made mistakes, shouldn't have given so much of myself in the begining probably, but thats the husband i wanted to be. I knew and made a decision what I was giving up and I knew why. It was our future and our happiness. In my mind I was trading some hard work and some of my own endeavors for a bright and fullfilling future.

 

I just for so long hadn't seen it coming, hadn't seen the red flags along the way. While I did the things I did and made the choices I made in order to make her happy, this became the norm. She built her career went to school and we did without for quite awhile. I finally reached a point where we were working hard, saving money, retirement funds are in place and managed well. I had the ability to actually start enjoying it. I wanted to recapture some of the things that I had missed out on. I didn't want to take from her, but wanted to be willing to give to myself. I wanted to get some of the nicer things, home improvements, take a big vacation, enjoy some time with my wife, maybe even start a family. I think my actually wanting something for myself seemed alien to her. By comparison to all our years together, my daydreaming of a vacation home or god forbid a new truck WOULD seem selfish.

 

So in a way, I did do this. I put her first because thats what love was to me, but shes the one who failed to see that, failed to appreciate that. I spent our whole life together doing whatever I could so she could chase her dreams. I never once thought I wouldn't be allowed to have a few of my own. Her Loss, I DREAM BIG!

TOJAZ

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I don't have many words for you Tojaz, as most have said anything I could possibly say.

 

Gunny is right, a story that seems quite often around these parts.

 

Upon meeting my wife, I dropped out of college and went back into the only field of work I knew, which I hated but had done since I was able legally able to work. Got us out of the ghetto we lived in, let her do NOTHING for a few years, finally talked her into getting her G.E.D., supported her and helped her through that. Continued this job the entire time, and finally got enough money to put her into college. Get her into college -- 6 months later she jumps ship. Never once did I ask her do to anything difficult in life, and I've worked 60-65 hours a week since I've known her.

 

I hate the fact that many of our stories are so similar -- because then I think about the pain I'm dealing with, and know that many of you feel this as well. Nobody deserves this....

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in your post that she is the writer in the family. I must tell you that you are a wonderful writer. So moving and heartfelt. Even drunk lol... I think you're going to do o.k. for yourself... smart, ambitious and young to boot. Don't ever stop loving with all you have. You said you gave too much, loved too much?? I don't think it's possible to love too much. It's who you are. I love your writing.... thank you. (smiled large on the drinking post) God, why do we do that to ourselves????

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Hey Tojaz,

 

You know you're too good for her, you have something she doesn't, compassion and a good soul.

 

We lose ourselves in relationships sometimes, stop doing the things that we used to do or wanted to do for the other person and it's never appreciated.

 

We work to build our dreams, stay in bad jobs or bust our butts to go to school and take on work that stresses us out to move up to build that security....either way, it's not appreciated.

 

You do this because you love them, want to grow old with that person and can picture your life with them for the long term....but in the end, it's not appreciated.

 

I don't see you as the selfish person, if my ex had been half as compassionate as you with our relationship, we'd probably still be married.

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OMG! That is so sad and b***** infuriating :mad:

 

Like you say, you have your own dreams, so maybe it's time for yours now :)

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in your post that she is the writer in the family. I must tell you that you are a wonderful writer. So moving and heartfelt. Even drunk lol... I think you're going to do o.k. for yourself... smart, ambitious and young to boot. Don't ever stop loving with all you have. You said you gave too much, loved too much?? I don't think it's possible to love too much. It's who you are. I love your writing.... thank you. (smiled large on the drinking post) God, why do we do that to ourselves????

Thanks for the compliment BeachBaby, all of them actually. I never thought it was possible to love or give too much, but in the end we both felt that we did. Still I've always felt that a love that is not total is not truly a love at all.

 

Hey Tojaz,

 

You know you're too good for her, you have something she doesn't, compassion and a good soul.

 

We lose ourselves in relationships sometimes, stop doing the things that we used to do or wanted to do for the other person and it's never appreciated.

 

We work to build our dreams, stay in bad jobs or bust our butts to go to school and take on work that stresses us out to move up to build that security....either way, it's not appreciated.

 

You do this because you love them, want to grow old with that person and can picture your life with them for the long term....but in the end, it's not appreciated.

 

I don't see you as the selfish person, if my ex had been half as compassionate as you with our relationship, we'd probably still be married.

 

I don't see myself as selfish, I will admit though, that I had reached a point where I felt I was entitled. Biggest sticking issue was never about the material things. Sure there was a lot I wanted and had gone without. It was time! Due to the obligations she had put on herself for her career, there were some days i couldn't even spend an hour with her aside from sleeping next to her. Not an hour straight mind you, an hour spread across the day! Even the time she did give me, she may of sat beside me, but her focus was on her laptop or some book. It seemed like I always stood in line behind the world, just to have a meaningful conversation with her.

TOJAZ

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I don't see myself as selfish, I will admit though, that I had reached a point where I felt I was entitled. Biggest sticking issue was never about the material things. Sure there was a lot I wanted and had gone without. It was time! Due to the obligations she had put on herself for her career, there were some days i couldn't even spend an hour with her aside from sleeping next to her. Not an hour straight mind you, an hour spread across the day! Even the time she did give me, she may of sat beside me, but her focus was on her laptop or some book. It seemed like I always stood in line behind the world, just to have a meaningful conversation with her.

TOJAZ

 

She put you last....you know, I felt that guilt, that I didn't put my STBX first in our marriage, but in truth, neither of us did. I came after all of his interests and things he wanted to do. In the end, he hated me for not spending time together, but when I tried, he basically took my head off.

 

I know what you mean though, you build and build and then there comes a time to enjoy. To celebrate one of my milestones, I bought a sportscar, STBX said I deserved it and was all for me buying it. Now he harbors it, hates the fact that I bought it. Just confusing, I guess the way he finally saw it is that took away from his gambling fund. :(

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Okay buddy I totally understand what you are saying...you gave the woman you loved everything you could. I respect you for that. You enabled her to be whomever she wanted to be and working toward the things she wanted and she didn't repay you in letting you do the same. She should be able to say what your hobbies are and what goals you have etc. She let you down in so many ways but you will always care about her because that is the man you are (far too few of you real men out there). You give so much of yourself to anyone you can help. You have been in pain and talked me through one of those valleys until I could see the light. Gunny is right that you write so eloquently you could write your own work. I have realized lately that I too enabled J to be whomever he wanted to be...6mo after graduating HS he joined the Navy, got out of the Navy moved here, The first car he had was given to him, the second car was bought by me (really nice El Camino lol), the third car was given to him, I could go on and on basically the last two cars my Grandfather paid for and my dad co-signed for (that one 2 months before he decided he "needed space")...All of this does not change the fact that I want him back but I do want some appreciation in return. J has never been on his own because I always lifted him up...even while I was in college (maybe that is why it took me 9yrs to graduate with a bachelors). No buddy, you can't love too much it just really hurts when not returned or thrown in the air. You are a hadsome one of a kind who deserves the best in life (I bet the ex didn't feel good enough for you in some way;)). I have learned that some of the things I worry about are worthless to even care about. I want to thank you so much for being so supportive. Every person is on their own path and those of us who really care keep helping as much as possible...it has to come back someday...:love:

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You certainly know how to bring a tear to my eye Tojaz! :lmao:

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(I bet the ex didn't feel good enough for you in some way;)).
You know, not really strangely enough. Not while we were together anyways. Towards the end, my only gripe was her level of commitment to our life (WELL DUH!!! SHE WANTED A DIVORCE!) when she had been so excited for the new house etc. it became "whatever" now I see that was because she had checked out, but it was my only real stumbling block for her. Yet that was not always there of course.

 

You certainly know how to bring a tear to my eye Tojaz! :lmao:

Sorry Broken, I know you have shed enough tears for two lifetimes. Last thing I want to do is bring you any more. I'm not really that saddened by it now though. Looking at it from this perspective really helps in a strange way. I feel used more then anything else. I've had an awful lot of that in my life, but it's always worst when it comes from the person you trust the most.

TOJAZ

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You know, not really strangely enough. Not while we were together anyways. Towards the end, my only gripe was her level of commitment to our life (WELL DUH!!! SHE WANTED A DIVORCE!) when she had been so excited for the new house etc. it became "whatever" now I see that was because she had checked out, but it was my only real stumbling block for her. Yet that was not always there of course.

TOJAZ

 

Yeah, I can relate to this. My STBX stopped house-hunting with me because he was upset that the ones we liked, there was something wrong with them or a contract was already pending. He "checked out" of participating but told me to continue the house hunting. I finally found one that was on the market, son actually "picked" it out when he came with me to look at it.....he was like "Mom, please buy this house, I love it!!" STBX finally comes out to look at it and when all was said and done, was very proud of it and loved it. About a year ago, he started complaining about the house and wanted me to sell it. Said it was too much to keep up with....used all kinds of excuses and said he didn't pick it out, didn't get a say in buying it....etc, etc....just became one big argument, 3 years after living in it. I couldn't figure it out, but realistically, he was already "checking out" of the relationship at that time.

 

Amazing that the clues are all there, we just miss them.

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Tojaz

Also, do not look upon yourself for being a sucker for giving too much to your wife. There are women out there who would love to have a man love them as you did your wife. Somehow they know.

My G/F keeps telling me she doesn't deserve someone as kind as me. Her ex didn't do a lot of things such as just taking her out, going to a play, concert, etc.

So when I do something nice such as send flowers to her work, the first thing she says is; why did you do that? Like I did something wrong & I'm trying to ask for forgiveness with the flowers.

 

Yes there are some good ladies out there that will enjoy a good man, just might take them a while to trust & believe in you.

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My G/F keeps telling me she doesn't deserve someone as kind as me. Her ex didn't do a lot of things such as just taking her out, going to a play, concert, etc.

So when I do something nice such as send flowers to her work, the first thing she says is; why did you do that? Like I did something wrong & I'm trying to ask for forgiveness with the flowers

 

When I first got married at the age of 22 I was absolutely, completely clueless to any and all things romantic, how to even begin to make a relationship of any sorts ~ let alone a marriage.

 

The pain of my divorce ~ having gotten thrown under tha' bus, financially ruined ~ motivated me to learn. (Mind you this was back before the internet.

 

I read, and read some more. I was Hell bent for leather to learn all I could. I ravaged libaries and book stores for any and everything I could get my hands on? (Think Gunny Highway (Clint Eastwood reading Cosmo on the bus in the movie "Heartbreak Ridge)

 

Trouble is? I became too good at it. I learned and learn even more.

 

Little things do mean a lot.

 

I also learned that most women are so starved for it, never had it to begin with, that when confroned with it ~ they don't trust it, nor how to react to it.

 

That is to say? They're accusotomed to "jerks"

 

On the show "Mad About You" Jamie asks Paul ~ "When we were dating you use to take me to fine resturants, send me flowers at work, cards and sweet nothings? But now that we're married you don't do that anymore. Why?"

 

Paul ~ "That's why I got married so I wouldn't have to do all that stuff anymore!"

 

Many women marry thinkig they can change their husbands, while many men marry hoping their wives will never change. And vice versa.

 

Both men and women can be manipulative. I have dated more than one woman that had a plan. And it usually involved my like of sex coupled with their making me their early retirement plan, (Works both ways ~ BTW)

 

I don't fault them for it, its just they weren't up front and honest with me to begin with. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be a "traditional" wife ~ that is to say a SAHM. Its the tring to manipulate me with sex to achieve that goal that I've a problem with.

 

I want to get out of tha' "game" and just be straight up and honest with one another.

 

One man loving one woman!

 

Don't use me as your 'stepping stone' to where you want to get and be in life. Don't use me for what I've worked all my life to achieve. Don't use me for what I got or will have.

 

I get into a relationship? I don't want us to be in charge, and you sure as Hell aren't.

 

The 'one' that is going to be in charge is 'us'

 

A lot of people simply cannot grasp the concept that when two people get together? They create a new and sepearte 'enitity' ~ The enitity of "us"

 

The simple fact of the matter is? Most people, (both men and women, but IMHO more men than women) are simply not LTR material. But for some reason I've yet to fathom? Its the ones that are LTR material that get with the very ones that aren't LTR material.

 

Solve and find the ansewer to that question, along with who the Hell "They" are? (As in "They' told me this! 'They' told me that! 'They' told I should,............... 'They' said I could,.............. 'They' told me to go,.................. 'They' said,............... If we could ever find out who "They" is and hang those bastards we will have solved most of the world's problems overnight! :p;) )

 

But back to tojaz.

 

Bro it comes down this! All gave some, but some gave all! And that's what you did! You gave your all! 150% freaking per cent. You would have made a great Marine.

 

Because you gave and still give 150 % in all you do. You give 150 % to everything and everyone you meet and who is blessed to have come in contact with.

 

Your a blessing to many here at LS, and your words bring them a brief moment or much more of relief.

 

And I'm here to stand up and tesitfy that when your down on your knees crying your ever loving eyes out.

 

Just a word from someone such as yourself ~ means a lot!

 

Through your pain? Through your words? Through your compassion?

 

There's no telling how many 'Lives" you've saved! You've given people the hope when there was no hope! You've given them courage to go on!

 

In the words of Elton John ~ "Someone saved a life tonight!"

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What a heartfelt and tragic story. Where are men like you?! If your wife didn't appreciate you, she clearly didn't deserve you.

 

Can someone fall in love with another after reading ONE post...?:love:

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What a heartfelt and tragic story. Where are men like you?! If your wife didn't appreciate you, she clearly didn't deserve you.

 

Can someone fall in love with another after reading ONE post...?:love:

 

Thats exactly what I was thinking... If his wife could ever read omg...

Reading this sent me into an emotional crying fit... lovely.

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But back to tojaz.

 

Bro it comes down this! All gave some, but some gave all! And that's what you did! You gave your all! 150% freaking per cent. You would have made a great Marine.

 

Because you gave and still give 150 % in all you do. You give 150 % to everything and everyone you meet and who is blessed to have come in contact with.

 

Your a blessing to many here at LS, and your words bring them a brief moment or much more of relief.

 

And I'm here to stand up and tesitfy that when your down on your knees crying your ever loving eyes out.

 

Just a word from someone such as yourself ~ means a lot!

 

Through your pain? Through your words? Through your compassion?

 

There's no telling how many 'Lives" you've saved! You've given people the hope when there was no hope! You've given them courage to go on!

 

In the words of Elton John ~ "Someone saved a life tonight!"

 

That is quite possibly the greatest compliment I have ever received, and considering the source, it means a helluva lot. Thank You Gunny.

TOJAZ

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