cutieh Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Why does it seem like mean girls get all the guys for boyfriends or husbands. Is it just me or am I going crazy. A lot of my ex friends have husbands and there not my friend anymore because of their attitudes with me. My other friends are still with them even though they treated me like that. Why?
always_searching Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 No, you're not going crazy. For some reason, a great deal of men want to be treated badly, just as a great deal of women do. I think it's something to do with bad self-esteem and wanting to impress someone who thinks you are and treats you as though you are beneath them. Regardless, it's to do with some messed up psychology and desiring what's bad for you. Just read "Why Men Love Bitches." It's such trash, but it has some interesting insights.
carhill Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 The bitches are never mean when they're working on their victim. Like the black widow, they wait until they've coupled to eat their prey.
SoulSearch_CO Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 The bitches are never mean when they're working on their victim. Like the black widow, they wait until they've coupled to eat their prey. *laughs diabolically*
LucreziaBorgia Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Men want women that they have to compete for, work to get, will continue to present him challenges, and one that he is proud to show off to other males. I agree with the suggestion about the 'men love bitches' book. It isn't saying to be bitchy, just be a 'babe in total control of herself'. Assertive and self confident, and putting herself out there as a prize to be won.
EcstasyX6 Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 As long as you f*** 'em and feed 'em, you can bitch all you want. They'll still be happy.
mr.dream merchant Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Men want women that they have to compete for, work to get, will continue to present him challenges, and one that he is proud to show off to other males. I agree with the suggestion about the 'men love bitches' book. It isn't saying to be bitchy, just be a 'babe in total control of herself'. Assertive and self confident, and putting herself out there as a prize to be won. Call me crazy but a bitch who carries herself as a "prize to be won" is a bitch I won't even bother with. Let the other knuckleheads stumble over themselves trying to impress her, she isn't worth it anyways. Where's all the humble and good looking girls at? That's ****ing hot!
mortensorchid Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 I'm not 100% sure if I agree with that statement, that men love bitches. While I do agree that men love a challenge, they do not love women who will constantly nag and demand things out of them. I also have come to realize that a lot of men are intimidated by strong and independent women. Many certainly like crazy women as well, which to me also says "trash". Men would rather have trash than a good woman most of the time, just like many women go for bad boys. Unfortunately for them, they end up with trash before they realize it's too late.
mrgerbick Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 I think for the majority yes, men and women both love the competition. I don't know if i'm a different breed of man, I really just want a mutual 50/50 relationship. Maybe the 50/50 for women who are bitches are with guys who cheat on them anyway, thats why the guys put up with it...because they dont really care either, some people like drama to run their life.
LucreziaBorgia Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 I don't mean cocky and arrogant women. I mean women who value themselves as a prize, rather than see themselves as a default. Isn't a woman who values herself (and not in a narcissistic way) much more appealing than a woman who doesn't?
Johnny M Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Men want women that they have to compete for, work to get, will continue to present him challenges, and one that he is proud to show off to other males. I agree with the suggestion about the 'men love bitches' book. It isn't saying to be bitchy, just be a 'babe in total control of herself'. Assertive and self confident, and putting herself out there as a prize to be won. A woman who continues to present me with challenges?? I'm sorry, but I have enough challenges in my life as is and have neither the time nor the patience to deal with a 'prize' like that. But I'm sure there's a bored, unemployed gentleman living in a trailer park somewhere who can appreciate a 'babe in total control of herself' (LMAO at the acronym:lmao:).
LucreziaBorgia Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) I'm not entirely certain why my posts keep getting misconstrued. When I say 'present a challenge' I don't mean a ball busting bitch who will nag your ass day and night. I mean a woman who is not a doormat, who is not a martyr, who will not be taken advantage of, who likes who she is and takes care of herself, and won't allow herself to be put on the bottom of the list of priorities. A woman who knows what it means to be a woman and appreciates a man for being a real man. (I don't want to say "a woman who knows and appreciates her place and knows how to make it work for her" but that is basically the bottom line) That said would you prefer a woman that I described, or a doormat 'yes dear' type who becomes more of a mother to you than a lover? Laugh all you want at the acronym. The authors of that series of 'Men Love Bitches' books came up with it and are making mad bank off of it. It may sound ridiculous, but they are very very rich now because of it. Edited November 8, 2009 by LucreziaBorgia
Johnny M Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 Laugh all you want at the acronym. The authors of that series of 'Men Love Bitches' books came up with it and are making mad bank off of it. It may sound ridiculous, but they are very very rich now because of it. I'm sure they are, as the the women who wrote "The Rules" and many other "relationship experts". The guys behind Bre-X also made a mad bank. See where I'm going with this? Speaking for myself, I want a woman who is pleasant to be around with, genuinely interested in me, and not a self-centered princess. That's really all there is to it. And I don't see any connection between "presenting challenges" and not being a doormat. Just because a woman is not into playing games does not mean she's a doormat.
carhill Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 TBH, at 50, I have no interest in the challenge of figuring a female out, if that's what 'presenting challenges' means. Those ladies can keep the other guys guessing stay the h!ll off my path I've wasted a good 30 years of my life on that. I do like the challenge of a good woman who stands by my side and inspires me to live life to the fullest and become more than I am. I would endeavor to be the same for her. It goes with my theory of challenge and support. And the mean ones? They can pound sand, preferably in a sandbox, far, far away
berrieh Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 FWIW, I know plenty of nice girls who get the guy. I think it's a matter of (a) luck, (b) how high your standards - how picky you are, and © how much you care. Women who care less (than the men in their lives) about the relationship tend to do better, though I don't think that should be an aim---I think it just works out that way. Men are better built to care too much in the relationship than women are, and most men would prefer to love a girl more than she loves him (even if they don't realize it), though I'm not saying there should be a HUGE margin of difference in that. As far as 'being a challenge,' I think many guys like that in the beginning, to a point, and after that, it's really all about knowing they're special. For some guys, that does mean jumping through hoops (they like to feel like they've 'won' their woman) but I think that's only a particular type of man that's more fading away, thankfully. If he's a uber-competitive meat and potatoes guy, I could see that, but most of my guy friends would rather have a partnership than a constant contest. Being a challenge does not = the only way to be your own woman. You can keep your own interests and sense of self without playing a zillion games like "Why Men Marry Bitches." I think that book was written for women who have trouble actually having their sense of self in an organic way... I think the better goal would be to put yourself together. Of course, I say this as someone who is not thoroughly together, and whose love life sometimes suffers for it... but I'm basing this on my many kind, lovely female friends who are in long-term relationships and what they think of that book/those kind of manipulations. I think the easiest way to land a man....if that's what you really want.... is to reduce your standards. That's what I suck at.
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