MissJoness Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 FACT: A "sugar baby" is looking for a rich guy to give her money or pay for things she wants/needs, and he expects to get sex in return. And I don't think even YOU can challenge that fact. Nope. Actually, some of them just want companionship. It doesn't always involve sex
espec10001 Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Is this a month to month service? As in for lets say $4,000 a month you can pay all her bills for that month and she'll spend time with you for that month? But suppose the guy can't pay one month, then the service is terminated. This is just a longer term contract than the typical hourly or job thing. There is no possibility of a long term commitment because if the money is gone so is she!
MissJoness Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I'm sure some of them will tell a gal that to get her to take him up on his "offer," but the sex issue will come up. Not if you have an understanding. I'm telling you they all don't want sex, just companionship
2sure Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 its true, you can find a sugar daddy who is looking for companionship and not sex. But be forewarned: In my experience, these are the real nutbags. These are the guys that for one reason or another cannot have sex or have an issue with it...and thats fine, no problem there. The problem is that they also for some reason, lack any kind of friendship or compaionship...and no, its not because they are rich...its because they are nut jobs and no one wants to be their friend or spend time with them in public. For good reason. Just a matter of what you are most comfortable putting out.
MissJoness Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I'm just not buyin' it. Sorry for the OT, but - is that you in the avatar? Why in the world do you ever doubt your looks? You are adorable! thank you. Its just that I go weeks and weeks w/o ever getting hit on by men. I'm thinking of buying me some very long hair, that usually works
boldjack Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Aero, there are plenty of rules for which there are no exceptions. What happened to your friend, is great, but it doesn't change what she was. She was a prostitute, she was a golddigger, but now she's not, anymore. People change. The proof of what I'm saying is that your friend STOPPED taking his money, so she is no longer a prostitute, which is great and I wish her luck. Why is it so hard for you to admit that?
Untouchable_Fire Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Aero, there are plenty of rules for which there are no exceptions. What happened to your friend, is great, but it doesn't change what she was. She was a prostitute, she was a golddigger, but now she's not, anymore. People change. The proof of what I'm saying is that your friend STOPPED taking his money, so she is no longer a prostitute, which is great and I wish her luck. Why is it so hard for you to admit that? BJ, didn't you learn anything from Pretty Woman? Your stepping on a common female fantasy right here. What better way to meet rich men than to look for a sugar daddy?
Untouchable_Fire Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 But a friend I have fell in love with her sugar daddy and stopped taking his money because she didn't want it anymore. For her being with him was better than any Louis Vuitton purse she could buy at the mall. And guess what? They are engaged now, so yes to every rule there are exceptions. That guy is a retard and all his friends are going to laugh at him in 5 or 6 years when he has to move back with his parents, cause his stbxw is taking him to the cleaners.
torranceshipman Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 The dictionary says this about prostitution: 'the act or practice of engaging in sexual intercourse for money.' The dictionary says this about sexual intercourse: 'Sexual union between humans involving genital contact other than vaginal penetration by the penis.' So if a girl engages in any type of sexual act with a guy because she is getting money or any other type of financial gain out of it...then she is engaging in the practice of prostitution. Doesn't matter whether she thinks she is a prostitute or not: if she is engaging in this practice, then she is engaged in prostitution. Does that make her a prostitute? Perhaps, perhaps not (this is really turning into a pedantic semantic explanation now!!) BUT the facts remain....engage in ANY sexual act because you will get something of monetary value and you are, WITHOUT DOUBT, engaging in prostitution.
bbf Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I think it's actually very clear where the sd/sb relationship line is. When the sd stops paying, a sb will always leave. If she doesn't maybe it turned into something else, but sd/sb means money for company. Does that make her a prostitute? That's semantics, but I wouldn't call them that. I don't consider strippers prostitutes either. Not that it matters much. I don't think being any of those things are wrong. As long as nobody is getting hurt consensual adults should be allowed to do whatever they want. If you're asking about if it's socially ok... Well, I don't know about women, but I would say in the minds of most guys there's not a huge difference between sb, stripper, and prostitute. You could probably figure that out from the guys' responses in the thread so far.
Vertex Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 After my father's death, my mother entered a sort of "sugar baby/daddy" relationship with a man 15 years her senior. It's purely for companionship -- he is retired and frequently goes on trips with her.
torranceshipman Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Sorry for brief offtopic comment but I agree MissJones, you look lovely in your avatar pic...if guys don't hit on you its not because of your looks - maybe they're just shy...
C-i-C-u Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Agreed. It was a very bad analogy. In a REAL relationship, partners treat EACH OTHER. It's not always the man paying the woman's way. Unless he's a doormat. Unless they are married or he is just that way and she accepts that. I want to be a sugar daddy. And will be;)
aerogurl87 Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 So if a girl engages in any type of sexual act with a guy because she is getting money or any other type of financial gain out of it...then she is engaging in the practice of prostitution. So a housewife who relies on her hubby to pay all her bills is a prostitute too?
Author RogueAngel19 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Posted November 4, 2009 Just so everyone knows it is not prostitution if there is no sex involved for the money. I am defining companionship as spending time with that person, talking to them and listening to them. The idea of this thread is if being a sugar baby is prostitution or not just your thoughts on the concept compared to other relationships. DO NOT LET THIS GET OUT OF HAND!
BUENG1 Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Just so everyone knows it is not prostitution if there is no sex involved for the money. I am defining companionship as spending time with that person, talking to them and listening to them. The idea of this thread is if being a sugar baby is prostitution or not just your thoughts on the concept compared to other relationships. DO NOT LET THIS GET OUT OF HAND! Well prostitution is not off topic because what people are telling you is that these "relationships" involve sex but the "sugar baby" is ashamed of being called a prostitute so they say it is about comfort or friendship or something else.
BUENG1 Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 So a housewife who relies on her hubby to pay all her bills is a prostitute too? A housewife is not a prostitute because she isn't exchanging sex for money.
aerogurl87 Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Well prostitution is not off topic because what people are telling you is that these "relationships" involve sex but the "sugar baby" is ashamed of being called a prostitute so they say it is about comfort or friendship or something else. So if they spend time together, go out on dates together, talk, hang out basically and have sex then that's not friendship or companionship? Look, if the woman calls herself a sugar baby and is just out there screwing old geezers for a quick buck then she's a prostitute. But if she's actually spending quality time with him and getting to know him and not just having sex with the first guy to give her some cash, then she's a sugar baby. Prostitutes don't care about the guys who give them money, they just want the money. Sugar babies are alot more discerning and actually take the time to get to know their sugar daddies. Well at least the sugar babies I've known are like that. But if you know any who act as a prostitute, then sure she's a prostitute just trying to make herself look better and in the process giving sugar babies a bad rep.
aerogurl87 Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 A housewife is not a prostitute because she isn't exchanging sex for money. I know she's not, but I'm going to stop posting on this thread because this is like trying to convince my mother that I'm not a slut because I choose to practice premarital sex. It's pointless. Everyone has their opinions and I have mine, which I intend to stick to.
Author RogueAngel19 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Posted November 4, 2009 Bueng1 this is not the main point of the thread i consider it off topic if that's all people want to talk about and nothing else. Its ok to mention it but do not dwell on that one opinion or aspect. If you want to discuss prostitution then make a thread for that but this thread is not for that.
Sam Spade Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Exchanging sex for money is prostitution. ; Sure, so what? What I don't understand is why such type of exchange gets such a bad rap, I think that it's wonderful :love:. IF SD is one way to go about it, then great .
Turista Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) I used to think sugar babies were gold diggers until a friend of mine tried it for a bit and apparently it was more of a business relationship then anything. She never had sex with the guys for money or anything it was more about companionship than a sexual relationship. Personally i could never do that but i would love a good friend who would pay for my college that would be nice. Anyway i just want people's opinion on this kind of relationship. Do you think its good or bad or even just justified? Let me know your thoughts. While I seek mutually supportive relationships instead of ridiculous situations like this, were I to go down this route (which I never intentionally would but see below), I would go full-on Charlie Sheen and nail a variety of beautiful prostitutes/porn stars, all under 30, sampling the best the world of romantic parasites has to offer on a weekly basis at their physical and sexual peaks, and then discard them like the leeches they are the minute they imply I have an iota of responsibility towards them. And to be clear about this, I personally think the above is an atrocious way to live a life, but, if you are intentionally positioning yourself as a consumer good rather than as a human being, it's not my problem or that of any other potential host that we treat you like the depreciating asset you yourself have chosen to become. So go ahead, make some money and screw yourself up inside the same way porn actors frequently mess up their sexualities by turning their hobby into a business. But all that said, I once unknowingly ended up dating a creature like you wish to become. And that is because she pretended she wasn't a 'ho at the beginning only to become frustrated later on that I didn't consider her one, literally saying upon breaking up with me "I was a trophy girlfriend and you didn't treat me like one." She's been at this game for 25 years and at 43 is a pathetic soul dependent on her fading plastic surgery-enhanced looks and jumbo C-cup foobies to get what she wants. Is that where you want to go in life? Yeeesh. PS I respect prostitutes far more than sugar babies because at least they're honest about what they are (that is unless they use a ridiculous euphemism like "courtesan" because, seriously, gag me). Edited November 4, 2009 by Turista
torranceshipman Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 So a housewife who relies on her hubby to pay all her bills is a prostitute too? You seem to misunderstand the concept of marriage The dictionary states that marriage is: 'the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a legal, consensual, and contractual relationship recognized and sanctioned by and dissolvable only by law' A marriage is a union; a legal, contractual one, where resources are shared under this legal union. Quite how you think that a man earning money supporting his family is akin to prostitution is completely beyond me. I am confused as to why you are so focused on this issue. I mean, it is obvious what prostitution is. Sexual acts for money/financial gain. End of story. So if you sleep with an old guy so you get items of monetary value from him then of course you are engaging in prostitution.
bac Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 If you need a guy to pay for college and you are OK to f...k him and you even have found the guy, you are very fortunate.
Author RogueAngel19 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Posted November 4, 2009 Just to be clear i don't want a Sugar Daddy or to be a Sugar Baby. I don't want to **** anyone for money. I said i wouldn't mind a friend who just gave me the money for college that is a different story. Also I love how people can sit here and define prostitution and marriage from a dictionary and yet they only want to define that SB/SD relationship as prostitution. The idea is for people to open and up and discuss DIFFERENT aspects of a kind of relationship like this. I feel like most of you are going with the crowd and yelling prostitute till your face turns blue. This is not Old-Salem people and everyone is not a witch ok.(Yes I know that is a historical reference but it is just being used to emphasis my point).
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