Girls: Height preference is ok. Men: If you have weight as a preference you're a pig

[boundaryproblem]

Give me a guy who is my height (5'8") who knows what he is doing in the bedroom any day over a guy who is 6'2" and useless in the bedroom.

 

I think height is something we women look at in our twenties. But now (I'm 36) when I look at men who are 6' + and I look at their imperfect character, they seem much less to me. I have to struggle to pay attention to what they are saying, so I seem polite.

 

And the guys who are around my height with solid character, seem ten feet tall to me and walk on water. I could listen for hours.

[AD1980]

Give me a guy who is my height (5'8") who knows what he is doing in the bedroom any day over a guy who is 6'2" and useless in the bedroom.

 

I think height is something we women look at in our twenties. But now (I'm 36) when I look at men who are 6' + and I look at their imperfect character, they seem much less to me. I have to struggle to pay attention to what they are saying, so I seem polite.

 

And the guys who are around my height with solid character, seem ten feet tall to me and walk on water. I could listen for hours.

 

So youre saying us shorter guys will have to wait till we get into our 30's and the girls have been used and abused by taller guys and then give us a chance finally

[canadaguy98]

Yeah I find that too. When I was in my early 20s the girls would be all fawning over the tall guys and the guys with hot sports cars it was a definite challenge to get laid by a hot girl in those days.

 

Now its stupidly easy in my 30s. When my ex-fiancee left me after 9 years of being together I was terrified, how would I handle the dating game after being out of the loop for my entire 20s? But it's stupidly easy now. I'm only 5'6" and I have short girls tall girls it seems all I need to do is talk to them and its easy to start something.

[Rudderless]

So would happen if you put a flyweight and a heavyweight in the same ring? Get my point?

 

As for soccer, that's not even a real sport. Just a bunch of girly men faking injuries. Meh. I'm surprised you didn't bring up badminton or ping pong

 

Who wins is irrelevant, it's the comparison of athleticism that we're dicussing.

 

You're stating that taller men are more athletic, it's quite simple, at some areas of sport they are and some they're not. To claim soccer isn't a real sport to justify your argument clearly shows you haven't got one

[boundaryproblem]

Whatever . A more realistic explanation is that being single at 36, you don't get to pick from nearly as many men as you did back when you were in your 20s. So you have to take what you can get.

 

No. I have more choice now - with a whole range of aged men. Being 36 I'm nicely in the middle age-wise.

 

Getting attention from men is like falling off a log for me.

 

I have my pick.

 

Height just isn't an issue for me. Admittedly there was one who was 5'3" and I had to friend-zone him, but if they are around my height - It is a non-issue.

[boundaryproblem]

So youre saying us shorter guys will have to wait till we get into our 30's and the girls have been used and abused by taller guys and then give us a chance finally

 

 

No I was interested in guys my height as well in my twenties. I'm just more firmly entrenched that it is a non-issue now in my 30s.

 

I would explain it this way - I look at character first and body second now. In my twenties - I looked at body first and character second.

 

Both are important. I just moved around my priority list.

[AD1980]

No I was interested in guys my height as well in my twenties. I'm just more firmly entrenched that it is a non-issue now in my 30s.

 

I would explain it this way - I look at character first and body second now. In my twenties - I looked at body first and character second.

 

Both are important. I just moved around my priority list.

 

So once youre saying i have to wait till my 30's to get any sort of decent women:p

[Rudderless]

So would happen if you put a flyweight and a heavyweight in the same ring? Get my point?

 

As for soccer, that's not even a real sport. Just a bunch of girly men faking injuries. Meh. I'm surprised you didn't bring up badminton or ping pong

 

 

Actually I'm curious now, how come you don't know that the man that dominates long distance running, the 5000m and 10000m world record holder and olympic 10000 m champion is a 5'4 Kenyan.?

 

Why would someone who claims to know about athletics not know about one of the greatest athletes of our generation? Let alone missed the stunning performances he put in at the olympics? Serious question, do you only pay attention to a sport or even classify it as a sport when 6'4 north americans are capable of being dominant?

 

All you've done to try to convince us that taller men are more athletic is cited two specific events involving a weight, or explosive fast twitch bias as opposed to enduring slow twitch, or low gravity bias which is completely unobjective. If you look at a range of sports you'll find different characteristics including height lend themselves to different natural abilities. You denigrate football (soccer), I'm not even going there, it's ridiculous. You denigrate badminton, I didn't even mention it, but just to correct your lack of knowledge players need to utilise around 80-85% PMHR at top level making it one of the most physically demanding sports according to science. Along the same lines, are you going to denigrate long distance running too?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me you're not athletic or enthusiastic about sport, except perhaps for bar televised games. You know very little about the subject, and in particular you don't seem to have much of an idea about the role of different strengths in team sports, not even when it comes to the NFL.

 

I'm genuinely confused as to why anyone would elevate tall men to such an unrealistic position of physical dominance in the sporting world? Is it a cultural thing (according to the most popular televised bar sports), a sexual thing (you prefer looking at their aesthetics), a personal thing (you feel better about yourself if you believe an attribute that defines you is superior), a lack of knowledge, a combination of, or all of the above?

[betamanlet]

So once youre saying i have to wait till my 30's to get any sort of decent women:p

 

I'm in my thirties, and even to get an obese single mother these days you need to be either rich or a thug. I'm neither.. Hence why I love europe, and being in Europe. Far less insecurities here. YOu can actually go without having a car and not being labelled a loser. EVen women ride bicycles for transportation here..

 

Are you looking forward to waiting years for someone who would never have dated you when she was younger, and expects you to provide for her and her child from her thug ex? That's basically what's going to happen. There all sorts of scientific studies that prove this.

[betamanlet]

Whatever . A more realistic explanation is that being single at 36, you don't get to pick from nearly as many men as you did back when you were in your 20s. So you have to take what you can get.

 

 

While that's likely accurate, I see women having their behinds kissed by all sorts of men at all ages... You can be an obese single mother at 33 and still go on more dates than all the short guys here put together..

[betamanlet]

Yeah I find that too. When I was in my early 20s the girls would be all fawning over the tall guys and the guys with hot sports cars it was a definite challenge to get laid by a hot girl in those days.

 

Now its stupidly easy in my 30s. When my ex-fiancee left me after 9 years of being together I was terrified, how would I handle the dating game after being out of the loop for my entire 20s? But it's stupidly easy now. I'm only 5'6" and I have short girls tall girls it seems all I need to do is talk to them and its easy to start something.

 

 

I'm in my thirties and don't find this to be the case at all. Also, you say "hot women". You do realize that people who get by on their looks their entire lives are generally some pretty nasty people? I'd much prefer average looks and a good personality, but even that is hard to find these days. Even self proclaimed "nerdy" girls have tons of guys after them and cheat left and right..

 

Maybe Canada is different, but in Washington, DC it's all "what do you do? where did you go to grad school?" all about status and impressing people.

[AD1980]

 

Are you looking forward to waiting years for someone who would never have dated you when she was younger, and expects you to provide for her and her child from her thug ex? .

 

Not really..

 

Im really not thrilled that it takes a women to get used an abused by some tall guy to come to her senses that those two or three inches that he had on the guy you didnt give a chance initally you finally realize maybe didnt really make that much difference in hindsight while i sat lonely for years..

[boundaryproblem]

So once youre saying i have to wait till my 30's to get any sort of decent women:p

 

No.

 

I said that I did date men my height in my twenties. So no you don't have to wait until your 30's.

 

Try reading what I wrote before you stick out your tongue at me.

[betamanlet]

No. I have more choice now - with a whole range of aged men. Being 36 I'm nicely in the middle age-wise.

 

Getting attention from men is like falling off a log for me.

 

I have my pick.

 

Height just isn't an issue for me. Admittedly there was one who was 5'3" and I had to friend-zone him, but if they are around my height - It is a non-issue.

 

 

Crap, I'm middle aged? I'm 34 and have been on like 15 dates in my entire life. Have had only one relationship lasting over 5 months and I've probably had sex 50 times in my entire life.

 

I feel like jumping off a bridge when I read this stuff

[betamanlet]

Not really..

 

Im really not thrilled that it takes a women to get used an abused by some tall guy to come to her senses that those two or three inches that he had on the guy you didnt give a chance initally you finally realize maybe didnt really make that much difference in hindsight while i sat lonely for years..

I don't think she has to be abused, or it has to be by a tall guy. Most women have a herd mentality and desire women that other men desire. WHen they loose their looks, they cannot be as picky as they were when they were younger. But would you honestly want someone who never would have given you the time of day when you were younger?

 

I am on facebook, and see lots of the people I went to high school with on their, and these women who never gave me the time of day in high school and making friends requests and wanting to hang out (yes, they are much older and usually have children).. If I had even talked to them in high school, their college boyfriends would have beaten me up or something...

 

I think you should go on a vacation out of the country. see something different. I might completely fail with women here in Germany, but it's nice seeing a woman riding in a bike rather than insisting on being seen in a BMW like in DC.

[Johnny M]

Who wins is irrelevant, it's the comparison of athleticism that we're dicussing.

 

You're stating that taller men are more athletic, it's quite simple, at some areas of sport they are and some they're not. To claim soccer isn't a real sport to justify your argument clearly shows you haven't got one

I'm not talking about athleticism per se - I'm talking about strength, which is what counts for survival in the wild (one's ability to fake a fault in order to get a penalty kick, on the hand, does not).

[AD1980]

No.

 

I said that I did date men my height in my twenties. So no you don't have to wait until your 30's.

 

Try reading what I wrote before you stick out your tongue at me.

 

I was joking take it easy..But in all seriousness do you think you were the norm or the excpetion??

 

Did most girls you know have strict height requriements??

[canadaguy98]

I'm in my thirties and don't find this to be the case at all. Also, you say "hot women". You do realize that people who get by on their looks their entire lives are generally some pretty nasty people? I'd much prefer average looks and a good personality, but even that is hard to find these days. Even self proclaimed "nerdy" girls have tons of guys after them and cheat left and right..

 

Maybe Canada is different, but in Washington, DC it's all "what do you do? where did you go to grad school?" all about status and impressing people.

 

No we have that too, it depends where you meet the girls. Meet superficial girls in a superficial place (like a bar or nightclub) and those questions are going to come up. Meet them in a different place not so superficial and you wont get the superficial questions.

 

Like here in Vancouver, I find ANYTHING to do with downtown and your going to be hitting about 70-90% superficial people. Stick to the 'burbs outside of city centre and that drops to about 10-15%.

 

But otherwise I find just talking to girls I'm confident and relaxed enough that they are interested. They dont give a damn what I do or how much money I make. I avoid any girl that seems to care about that too much.

[betamanlet]

No we have that too, it depends where you meet the girls. Meet superficial girls in a superficial place (like a bar or nightclub) and those questions are going to come up. Meet them in a different place not so superficial and you wont get the superficial questions.

 

Like here in Vancouver, I find ANYTHING to do with downtown and your going to be hitting about 70-90% superficial people. Stick to the 'burbs outside of city centre and that drops to about 10-15%.

 

But otherwise I find just talking to girls I'm confident and relaxed enough that they are interested. They dont give a damn what I do or how much money I make. I avoid any girl that seems to care about that too much.

 

 

I never go to clubs, but bars, I would think would be a problem. Especially if it's a dive bar and still it's "oh impress me!". I love it here in Germany, nobody asks me what I do... They don't want to hear about how great I am, and how much status my job brings, etc....

 

Never been to Vancouver, just outside of it at Richmond, and never experienced what bars are like. But basic rule in N.A., is that if there are women there, it's going to be pretty snotty and pretentious... SO it's nice that people are nice in an Irish bar, but you're n ever in a million years going to meet a single woman there.

[Rudderless]

I'm not talking about athleticism per se - I'm talking about strength, which is what counts for survival in the wild (one's ability to fake a fault in order to get a penalty kick, on the hand, does not).

 

This just gets better. So now you've shifted the goalposts so that it's not athleticism but all about strength, which according to you is what's required to survive in the wild.

 

Firstly strength wouldn't get you very far in snaring some dinner, nor building some shelter, that would be something to do with intelligence.

 

Which is why darwinism isn't about survival of the strongest, or fittest, it's about the most adaptable being able to survive. If shorter people weren't able to survive the gene would have been darwined out. So I take it this is another subject you're lacking in knowledge on?

 

What you're suffering from is classic social bias and don't have an objective fact to back up your thoughts. Have you ever wondered why left handed people are in a minority? It's because a few centuries ago, social bias meant that they were seen as unfit compared to right handers. Totally unobjective and ridiculous, but it's in human nature to repeat its mistakes and behave like a blind herd.

[Vertex]

Honestly this thread scares the **** out of me. I feel like even at 23, I need to hurry up or all the good ones are going to be gone! I know that's not true, but damn you guys are scaring me, haha.

[betamanlet]

Honestly this thread scares the **** out of me. I feel like even at 23, I need to hurry up or all the good ones are going to be gone! I know that's not true, but damn you guys are scaring me, haha.

 

 

missing out on life blows. dont let that happen to you

[Johnny M]

 

This just gets better. So now you've shifted the goalposts so that it's not athleticism but all about strength, which according to you is what's required to survive in the wild.

 

Firstly strength wouldn't get you very far in snaring some dinner, nor building some shelter, that would be something to do with intelligence.

 

Which is why darwinism isn't about survival of the strongest, or fittest, it's about the most adaptable being able to survive. If shorter people weren't able to survive the gene would have been darwined out.

Actually, short people are being darwined out. Modern day humans are significantly taller than people who lived in the middle ages, who were in turn taller than people who lived in ancient times, who were in turn taller than our pre-homo sapiens ancestors. Height obviously has an evolutionary advantage, at least when it comes to humans.

 

And to the guy who keeps bringing up the Japanese, I'm not interested in engaging in the whole 'which race is superior' debate, but I'd like to know which criteria you're looking at when evaluating the quality of the Japanese genes? You do realize that fact that they make good cars and DVD players and presently have a high standard of living saying absolutely nothing about their genetic makeup, right?

[crazy_grl]

Actually, short people are being darwined out.

 

Not true. I just read an article today about a study that suggests women will be getting shorter and heavier. I don't think I can post the link, but you can just google "genetics shorter fatter women".

[mbeewood]

Actually, short people are being darwined out. Modern day humans are significantly taller than people who lived in the middle ages, who were in turn taller than people who lived in ancient times, who were in turn taller than our pre-homo sapiens ancestors. Height obviously has an evolutionary advantage, at least when it comes to humans.

 

No, lmfao, short peopel aren't being "darwined" out. Humans are just getting better nutrition and health and it's making them grow, slowly though. And I'm emphasizing the "slowly" because I know you're going to say something like "zomg that means girls like taller guys because theyre more healthy!!111!" The change is so gradual in humans there isn't a way the human mind could subconcsiously relate health with height.