art_freak04 Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 Hi my name is mike and well. . . i'm a pretty short guy(about 5'5) and though I'm a pretty good looking guy I find it really hard to get girls to be interested in me. I'm intelligent, respectful, have a good personality, and i'm a really attentive guy(I actually listen when a girl talks). But it seems that no matter what I always get turned down for dates and most girls dont even seem to give me much notice, even shorter girls which would be my forte. Ive only had two gf's total in my life and i'm 21. I couldnt even count the number of rejections which would be a pretty big number. I'm not boring or uninteresting, i'm a little on the shy side but not bad or anything. I'm almost done with college with a bachelors degree in graphic design from the art institute of pittsburgh, but since i'm in college i dont have a bunch of money, but my career aspirations are pretty high and I know when its all said and done i'll have a profitable career. my question is why dont girls seem to give me a chance? Am I really that undesirable?
moimeme Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 It shouldn't be, but sometimes it is. I have to admit that I've always had a problem considering people shorter than me as the same age. Dumb, but 'shorter' translates to 'younger'. Or did. Recently I've run across some very attractive fellows who weren't all that tall and I actually did marry someone just an inch taller than me. Still, tall does happen to be one of those more desirable traits so I fear you do have a bit of a disadvantage. Cultivate the charm and work on your smile. Nice eyes and a good smile turn my head every time and I think I'm not alone in that.
nicolas465 Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 hey man, i hve the same problem, only i'm worse i'm only 5'3. I think it's a heriditary problem for women. See back in the old cave man days, men were supposed to be big and strong and protect the family and go hunting. It seems very primitive i know, but if u look at mother nature they still do that today, when two male bears want the same female whoever doesn't die gets her. which is usually the stronger larger male. So same thing happend with us, and now it's bread into the genes. Smaller man = less protection = smaller chance of survival. It may not seem plausable, but our craving for sugar is also genetic as well... but i'm not going to get into that.
yogi-mon Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 so find a short girl. ask urself, does height matter to me? the answer is yes you like shorter girls, if they are attractive to you, chances are its mutual. typically, the shorter the better, unless they are too short, so - same for girls. They like a taller man, unless of course he is too tall.
Author art_freak04 Posted December 7, 2003 Author Posted December 7, 2003 well i like short as well as tall it makes no difference to me, but short just seems to at least give me a shot though a small one at that
Hushed Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 Maybe there's something else about you. You said you were a little shy, and maybe that's it. You have to be more confident. Not conceited, but confident, because if you think no one will want you, then, you're going to seem like no wants you. You have to feel like you're the ish in order for people to see you like that. And don't try so hard.
moimeme Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 Forgot one thing! How do you carry yourself? An awful lot of people slouch around these days, no matter what their height. A man who carries himself tall and straight is very attractive - again, don't know if it's primal (signifying good health, maybe?) or what but it really makes a big difference.
TremblingBluStar Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 Well, I can definetly relate! I've been ditched because of my height in the past. I'm 5'10, so I can only imagine how much more difficult it would be for even smaller guys. Still, I'm attracted to shorter women. So, height does play a factor in my attraction towards the opposite sex as well. Have you tried asking out women shorter than you are? My gf is 5'0, so they are out there! You just have to find them.
monkey00 Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 im a guy and i think the main fact is that girls dig guys that are taller or about the same height as them....you know why? cause it makes them feel safe and protected. how would you feel if you and your best friend were walkin down a dark alley but he was shorter than you, would you feel less safe? i have a 19yr old friend he's around your height also he looks like a freakin 15 or 16 yr old. and there are times where he acts kiddish or immature sometimes. and girls like to call him cute. but he hasnt had a gf so far....i dont think he ever even tried hooking up w/anyone... so yea this goes to show that even tho u dont have the height....just be cool and ACT your age, and dont forget in this era, guys have to make the initiative in asking a girl out...you cant seriously wait for a girl to magically ask you out can you?
HokeyReligions Posted December 7, 2003 Posted December 7, 2003 I think you will find that things change as you grow older and after you graduate and get out in the world. When I was your age I dated a guy who was 6' 7" only because I could wear my tallest heels! As I matured I realized it didn't matter to me and looked for other qualities. Develop yourself personally and increase your self-confidence - that is one of the best things you can do. My sister is 6'1" and her husband is 5'4". I've dated guys who were significantly shorter than me and it was no big deal. I've dated tall guys too and frankly, my neck hurt when we would kiss! Personality is more important than height and women who would rule you out as a date because of your height are not worth it to your happiness - they are either at a point in their lives where it is important and don't yet realize that height is not a foundation for a relationship; or else it is one of their priorities and neither of you would be happy together.
BraveGirl Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 I'm 5'11" and have always gone for shorter men. I actually feel more attracted to them than to tall men. It's often said that short men make more of an effort, are often funnier etc, perhaps to compensate, and I certainly find them more interesting on the whole. Another point - are you slight ie. skinny or cuddly and broad? Cuddly is irresistable whatever someone's height. But don;t worry, I am proof that there are girls who like short men.
Lily Blackwood Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 Height really doesn't make a difference for me, but then again I've never been "normal" when it came to guys.. I liked my friend with a unibrow that everyone else thought was really ugly. For me, some people look ugly or plain when I first meet them, but once I get to know them and find out they have really beautiful personalities, they look more beautiul. I hate to sound thoreau-ish, but oh well . I think you just need to be really open and let everyone see how beautiful you are on the inside.. OMG okay screw thoreau I sound like michael jackson... holy hell Anyway, good luck! You're bound to find someone, just hang on, k?
mendingmyheart04 Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 I work with a guy who is 5'5 and he adorable and is my absolute favorite co-worker AND he is married with two kids. I think his wife is about an inch taller than him. He has an exellent job and I've always wondered if he drove himself to make a lot of money because he was short...nothing wrong with that. It worked for him and will for you too.
faux Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 I am the same height as you are, and I have never had any trouble meeting women. In fact, I love taller women. The tallest girlfriend I have had yet was 6'1", and she is now a model. Sometimes women think it is cute that I am short and am not intimidated by their height. Height is just height, and I have never seen anyone make a big deal out of it aside from a few parents ("You two look so silly together! It's embarrassing! Aren't you embarrassed?") years ago. Believe me, it isn't your height that is a problem. It doesn't sound as though you have much confidence. Despite the fact that you attempted to point out what you see good in yourself, if you are concerned about something such as your height there are probably deeper reasons behind your situation. I think it is the way in which you phrased things, and the things you brought up that just make me go "Self esteem issues." Height has never, ever been a problem for me. I just don't buy that anyone is going to reject you because of your height. If anyone ever did reject me simply for my height, I would take advantage of my stature and give them a swift kick in a spot that hurts.
Pyrannaste Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 More than a time I found myself very attracted to guys who were shorter than me.
dudesomewhere Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 hey faux you're 5'5"?...and you say you use magnums? there you go ladies, that's ron jeremy on loveshack, hehe seriously, people ask questions that are very subjective...facial hair, length of hair, height, weight, build...how about money, anyone talk about that yet? I'm 5'9 or 10 I know or have seen plenty of little guys with girls their height or taller. All you have to remember is that you have to play the match game. You know, like old maid . Don't worry...fear not, you'll have a profitable career as you say...and with money come the ladies. Of which I have neither
Girly Girl Posted June 10, 2004 Posted June 10, 2004 I have to admit, I love tall guys. I'm only 5'0", but my bf is 6'2". I don't know why, but I prefer it. I definitely don't see too many men my height, but I would assume it would be hard to find someone shorter than me. I once went out with a guy who was eye level to me when I wore heels and I found it a bit weird. I guess I am attracted taller guys...the whole having to tippy toe to kiss or him picking me up in a hug...just helps turn me on. That being said...my longest relationship ever (2 years) was with a guy who was only 5'6", and I still found him EXTREMELY attractive. I think it's about the individuals (both taste on one side, and attitude given on the other). It's all about hte way you portray yourself and how you present yourelf to others. I don't notice my bf's height...others do. And, others who are shorter, I oftne think are taller. Did that even make sense?
TempSain Posted June 10, 2004 Posted June 10, 2004 One thing that I have noticed is that short women typically will go out with taller guys and when I say tall, I mean at least 6' and higher. I think it's mainly because they feel like they are too short and that they need to compensate for thier short height by going out with the tallest guy they can get. Yes personality does make a difference but I think you can overcome any deficiencies by having lots of money. Money makes any man attractive. Look at all the old and the fat guys that have money, you will see alot of them with pretty young attractive women. One of my favorite saying "First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the women!" - by Tony Montana (Al Pachino in Scarface)
Girly Girl Posted June 10, 2004 Posted June 10, 2004 Please tell me that was a joke??? I always find it hard to distinguish between ture feelings and sarcasm in posts! I would hope it was a joke! Money really isn't the most important thing. As for the compensating thing...not really. My friends always joked with me htat by being witha taller guy, I was giving my future kids (I have none yet) a fighting chance to be tall!
faux Posted June 10, 2004 Posted June 10, 2004 Originally posted by Girly Girl I would hope it was a joke! Money really isn't the most important thing. Money is the most important thing in our world, no doubt about it. You cannot do anything without money. You cannot live without money. Money is indeed the most important thing. Money is not the most important thing in a relationship, of course, but in life... Money is the most important thing. I don't care how happy or content you are. Unless you have money to live with you're not in a good position. If you're exempt from having to pay to live moderately all the power to you. And I still like my height.
TempSain Posted June 10, 2004 Posted June 10, 2004 I hope your not joking?! If you don't think that money has any influence in this world, your only kidding yourself. You can see it in everyday life. I am not saying money is the most important thing, I am saying money has a way of attracting women. Money is what makes this world go round and you can do alot with it. I am not attacking you here, Just trying to help you realize the fact. FAUX: Thanks for getting my back on this point.
Girly Girl Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Not saying that money isn't important to live, it's just not the only thing we women look for in a partner. Sure, there are some women who look at a guy's wallet first and everything else superficial next, but not all of us. I think being simply "comfortable" money wise with someone I care about is more important than being with some rich bugger who treats me badly! I work extremely hard at my job aand have a good career that pays me adequately enough to own my own home and car. My bf is not quite at that point, but it doesn't mean I love him any less. He works hard and has enough to live comfortable, although I know he strives for more, which will eventually happen once he finishes paying off med school loans. I like having money to go on vacations and buy the clothes I want, and I do all of those things. I guess my point was from the attraction side...it's not the first thing I look at in a guy since I can provide myself with the "stuff" I want. Didn't mean to offend you Temp...I'm not kidding myself, nor am I naive. I'm just pointing out that some of us are not out to reel in a rich fish!
TempSain Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Glad to hear that from you. I know that there are lots of decent girls out there that do not look at money but, and that's a BIG but, a guy that has money and is well manored and well dressed that is short will have more appeal to a women than the same short guy with average money. Ideally men want a girl that wants them for who they are regardless of how much money a man has. But in a materialistic society that we live in today, money goes along way.
Miss_Behavin143 Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 I'm 5'1...... my boyfriend is only 5'4 and I date him. HOWEVER, usually I've always liked dating taller guys.. to me it makes me feel like they are more masculine or something? and I've always liked dating taller guys cause my friends always think it's cute when I'm dating a guy that's like 6'2 or something and I'm only 5'1. That's SO stupid.... i know. Anyways, I'm not saying that short guys aren't attractive, because they are!!!! I just prefer taller guys usually.
tekidiva24 Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 Mike - height is really not an issue. i am a tall girl and have dated guys both shorter than me & taller. As for the two girlfriends? That is great at least you have not been truly poisoned by a string of relationships. I bet you will find somebody soon... in the meantime those career aspirations are very important so stay focused
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