threebyfate Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm 5'4", and about 225lbs, not really fat but pretty stocky. I really don't check here all that often, but it certainly seems that every time I do, one of the top threads is some poor guy worried women will never date him because he's short. Since I was 15 years old (23 now), I've consistantly had girlfriends, both long term and short flings, and not once has my height been an issue. I've dated mostly girls shorter or the same height as I am, but I did date one girl who was 5'10" (kissing her was awkward, lol) and my current girlfriend, whom I've been dating for almost a year, is an inch taller than me. All of them were attractive, fit, and intelligent girls. There is no shortage of petite girls, and if you can make them laugh and are a decent guy, it really doesn't matter. I may be far from a "perfect specimen" when it comes to looks, but I've cultivated my awesome and it seems to work out pretty well for me. It's all about attitude. I suppose it just makes me a little sad to see guys so down about something they have so little control over. Loveshack has a huge number of obsessive compulsive personality types. I wouldn't worry about it, if it's working for you.
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm 5'7 1/2 too (I usually just round down and say 5'7 to be on the safe side), and we are at the edge of not really having to worry about our height too much, we are still taller than most girls. Yes an extra 3-4 inches would open up a lot more doors, but being in the 5'7-5'8 range is still datable. Just don't do any online dating, at our height you will have no success unless you like fat women. I'm not fat I've done online dating, and I don't base it off a guy who's 5'7. I would much rather meet a woman in sweatpants than in designer name brand clothes. I met my last girlfriend when she was wearing jeans, a tshirt, and a baseball hat. I prefer that infinetely over high heels some designer skirt, blouse and handbag.. Also, a woman's butt looks its best in jeans, hence why I like when women wear jeans. Oh, and even now, they have "Designer" sweatpants. Every time you see a girl with "Juicy" on her butt, don't forget that. You contradicted yourself so many times here. But we'll bypass that. You like how a woman's butt looks in jeans. Okay here it goes.. If I were to say go by the brand at k-mart, the jeans are not as fitted for my shape. I got shopping at say American Eagle. They are pricier, but they give me a good fit. They sit on my hips better, they aren't overly baggy in the butt, they form to my legs better. They have different style choices that sit on me better. I fit into those jeans better. So which am I going to go for? Yup, women don't like to compete with each other.. And how does being with a guy 1.5 feet taller than make you feel? Impervious from sabre tooth tigers and other extinct predators? The feeling is the attention and the "look what I have" showing off thing. I don't compete with women. I dress how I like to dress. I dress what works for me. When you do certain things to attract women, it's because you want attention from that woman. You want them to see what you have and what you can do. No different.
OpenGL Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Then don't date online. Women are far pickier online. A woman would would never give you a shot on match would probably give you her number at a bar or bookstore. Being in person gives you an advantage. I don't date online, just warning others not to.
OpenGL Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm not fat I've done online dating, and I don't base it off a guy who's 5'7. I never said you were fat, why are you so defensive?
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Then don't date online. Women are far pickier online. A woman would would never give you a shot on match would probably give you her number at a bar or bookstore. Being in person gives you an advantage. Not with your attitude. You'd have a better shot online to get that first date because I wouldn't be able to read you as well. Then after the first date, I'd see the lack of confidence and sad attitude, then the date would be over.
betamanlet Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm not fat I've done online dating, and I don't base it off a guy who's 5'7. You contradicted yourself so many times here. But we'll bypass that. You like how a woman's butt looks in jeans. Okay here it goes.. If I were to say go by the brand at k-mart, the jeans are not as fitted for my shape. I got shopping at say American Eagle. They are pricier, but they give me a good fit. They sit on my hips better, they aren't overly baggy in the butt, they form to my legs better. They have different style choices that sit on me better. I fit into those jeans better. So which am I going to go for? I don't compete with women. I dress how I like to dress. I dress what works for me. When you do certain things to attract women, it's because you want attention from that woman. You want them to see what you have and what you can do. No different. I'm saying so long as they aren't "mother jeans" no guy cares whether they are $35 levis or $500 designer jeans. If your butt looks nice in them, he's not going to care if they're from walmart or from some boutique in los angeles.
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I never said you were fat, why are you so defensive? You told him unless he wanted a fat chick, not to do online dating, due to his height. I'm not fat. Height isn't an issue. You generalize way to much. Especially since you've never done online dating, you don't have much room to talk, now do you?
OpenGL Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Not with your attitude. You'd have a better shot online to get that first date because I wouldn't be able to read you as well. Then after the first date, I'd see the lack of confidence and sad attitude, then the date would be over. He has a better shot online if he is willing to date a fat woman.
betamanlet Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Not with your attitude. You'd have a better shot online to get that first date because I wouldn't be able to read you as well. Then after the first date, I'd see the lack of confidence and sad attitude, then the date would be over. yet he has to be completely fine with your nonexistant self esteem or he is a selfish pig!
627 Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm tall over 6 feet, it is not making my life any easier(and it is obvious from the number of threads I have) being tall is one small thing, and since no one is perfect, you could have been tall and had issues somewhere else(as it seems to be my case) so guys should not obsess over these things everyone has his qualities, he should invest there, make the best out of it I doubt I will have a deep relationship wih a woman if the only reason I attracted her is because my head hits the roof lights I wouldn't want that
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm saying so long as they aren't "mother jeans" no guy cares whether they are $35 levis or $500 designer jeans. If your butt looks nice in them, he's not going to care if they're from walmart or from some boutique in los angeles. Well I hate how Levis fit on me. Girls are shaped very different. What works for some doesn't for others. If it was in my price range right now, I'd go for the $150 Ezra Fitch jeans I've had before. They last me forever, they fit perfect, I feel good in them.
betamanlet Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 You told him unless he wanted a fat chick, not to do online dating, due to his height. I'm not fat. Height isn't an issue. You generalize way to much. Especially since you've never done online dating, you don't have much room to talk, now do you? Actually if you check out craigslist, the fat chicks are rather picky, with huge laundry lists. I sometimes look at them for laughs, a short obese woman who no career demanding tall, rich, brad pitt look alikes. It's hilarious the unreasonable expectations.
OpenGL Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 You told him unless he wanted a fat chick, not to do online dating, due to his height. I'm not fat. Height isn't an issue. You generalize way to much. Especially since you've never done online dating, you don't have much room to talk, now do you? I currently don't do online dating, but I have done it in the past. Yes I made a generalized statement, but I still did not call you fat personally. Yes, if you take the law of large numbers, technically you can get dates with decent looking chicks at 5'7 online. I have done it. I used to do online dating on and off for about 1.5 years, and have gotten 10 or so dates, dated a few girls for a few months. It was still very hard to get those 10 or so dates and the vast majority of women who were interested in me were fat women, which I have no interests in.
betamanlet Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Well I hate how Levis fit on me. Girls are shaped very different. What works for some doesn't for others. If it was in my price range right now, I'd go for the $150 Ezra Fitch jeans I've had before. They last me forever, they fit perfect, I feel good in them. I'm saying, if you had a choice between two identical jeans, they both fit you perfectly, but one has a logo and is a lot more expensive, and the other has no logo, and is a lot cheaper, which would you buy, given they otherwise are exactly the same? Think name brand product vs. store brand. The store brand Nyquil is just as good as nyquil, but costs less because they don't advertise.
OpenGL Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Actually if you check out craigslist, the fat chicks are rather picky, with huge laundry lists. I sometimes look at them for laughs, a short obese woman who no career demanding tall, rich, brad pitt look alikes. It's hilarious the unreasonable expectations. Very true, but just ignore those, there are plenty of other fatties that will be willing to date you.
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 He has a better shot online if he is willing to date a fat woman. You still don't get it. Women can sense the lack of confidence, ESPECIALLY in person. It's not attractive. Also, you haven't used online dating, so quit talking like you are coming from experience. I'm not fat. I don't have an issue with guys being 5'7, and that does not disqualify them when I look online. He'd have no shot in person because I'd be able to tell that he has no confidence. No confidence = turn off Being five seven is not a turn off. yet he has to be completely fine with your nonexistant self esteem or he is a selfish pig! My nonexistant self esteem? And you get that from where? I am fine with how I look. I feel good when I look in the mirror. I don't start threads saying "My boobs aren't big enough".
betamanlet Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 You still don't get it. Women can sense the lack of confidence, ESPECIALLY in person. It's not attractive. Also, you haven't used online dating, so quit talking like you are coming from experience. I'm not fat. I don't have an issue with guys being 5'7, and that does not disqualify them when I look online. He'd have no shot in person because I'd be able to tell that he has no confidence. No confidence = turn off Being five seven is not a turn off. My nonexistant self esteem? And you get that from where? I am fine with how I look. I feel good when I look in the mirror. I don't start threads saying "My boobs aren't big enough". Women generally have very low self esteem. So howcome it's completely fine for a woman to dismiss a man who isn't confident, whereas a man is a "pig" if he dismisses a low self esteem woman? You know why you don't like men who are not confident, men who have low self esteem, it's because it reminds you of yourself, hence you find him repulsive.
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I'm saying, if you had a choice between two identical jeans, they both fit you perfectly, but one has a logo and is a lot more expensive, and the other has no logo, and is a lot cheaper, which would you buy, given they otherwise are exactly the same? Think name brand product vs. store brand. The store brand Nyquil is just as good as nyquil, but costs less because they don't advertise. Sorry, I hate to break it to you, but Wal-Mart jeans are not identical to name brand jeans. They don't even feel the same, at least not to me. They are also no designed the same. Every designer is different.
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Women generally have very low self esteem. So howcome it's completely fine for a woman to dismiss a man who isn't confident, whereas a man is a "pig" if he dismisses a low self esteem woman? You know why you don't like men who are not confident, men who have low self esteem, it's because it reminds you of yourself, hence you find him repulsive. I've been dismissed when I had low self esteem. I learned from it. I didn't cry about it. Sure, it reminded me of how pathetic it was to wallow in pity, and how unattractive it made me, because it shows through.
betamanlet Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Sorry, I hate to break it to you, but Wal-Mart jeans are not identical to name brand jeans. They don't even feel the same, at least not to me. They are also no designed the same. Every designer is different. Would you please answer the question? HYPOTHETICALLY, if there were identical jeans, both made by the same sweatship in Vietnam, but one was labelled with the brand name, and costs $200, and the other is non name, but exactly the same otherwise, and costs $45. Which would you buy?
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Would you please answer the question? HYPOTHETICALLY, if there were identical jeans, both made by the same sweatship in Vietnam, but one was labelled with the brand name, and costs $200, and the other is non name, but exactly the same otherwise, and costs $45. Which would you buy? If they were 100% identical, I'd go with the cheaper. I like having money in my pocket. But when they aren't identical, I go for the ones I like best that is in my budget.
OpenGL Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 You still don't get it. Women can sense the lack of confidence, ESPECIALLY in person. It's not attractive. Also, you haven't used online dating, so quit talking like you are coming from experience. I'm not fat. I don't have an issue with guys being 5'7, and that does not disqualify them when I look online. He'd have no shot in person because I'd be able to tell that he has no confidence. No confidence = turn off Being five seven is not a turn off. You missed this post: I currently don't do online dating, but I have done it in the past. Yes I made a generalized statement, but I still did not call you fat personally. Yes, if you take the law of large numbers, technically you can get dates with decent looking chicks at 5'7 online. I have done it. I used to do online dating on and off for about 1.5 years, and have gotten 10 or so dates, dated a few girls for a few months. It was still very hard to get those 10 or so dates and the vast majority of women who were interested in me were fat women, which I have no interests in.
betamanlet Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 If they were 100% identical, I'd go with the cheaper. I like having money in my pocket. But when they aren't identical, I go for the ones I like best that is in my budget. YOu have chosen wisely.
dreamergrl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 You missed this post: Aside from missing that post... I still maintain, he'd have no shot in person because of his attitude and confidence issues. Those don't shine through as widely when online dating. When I had less confidence, I veered to online dating more. I could bypass the shyness I'd have in person. I could hide behind a screen. I still looked the same in person, but my lack of self esteem wasn't so obvious. It was easier. Then I'd have the date. Then I'd bomb out. Why? Because it was so obvious how poorly I thought of myself when online.
OpenGL Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Aside from missing that post... I still maintain, he'd have no shot in person because of his attitude and confidence issues. Those don't shine through as widely when online dating. When I had less confidence, I veered to online dating more. I could bypass the shyness I'd have in person. I could hide behind a screen. I still looked the same in person, but my lack of self esteem wasn't so obvious. It was easier. Then I'd have the date. Then I'd bomb out. Why? Because it was so obvious how poorly I thought of myself when online. I'm not really arguing how well he would do in person, the only argument I am making is that online wouldn't work well for him. You are saying online will work better for him because he can hide his lack of self confidence. What I am saying is that even with that lack of self confidence hidden, he still doesn't have the tools to be successful online with anything but fat women.
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