threebyfate Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Well, it kind of depends on how muscular the OP wants to get. If he wants to get ripped (abs, biceps, ect) it will take a few years of consistent body building at the gym. no not talking about body builder muscles nice chest nice abs somewhat big biceps muscles The above is what he referenced, in the opening post. If he works out every second day on different parts of his body, he can get in shape sooner. He'll also have to affect his diet, by cutting down on fat intake and empty calories. The thinner he is, the sooner he'll see his muscles showing through, since the thicker the layer of fat on his body, the less the definition will show through. Refer to summo wrestlers!
xpaperxcutx Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Although defined biceps and chest are nice to look at, these things aren't usually noticeable under a thick layer of clothes. Afterall, most women won't imagine you naked until they actually start liking you and your personality. However I still think it's a good thing to keep in good shape even with a little muscle, it does show you take pride in keeping healthy and fit. The only thing I see as a dealbreaker is a gut belly. I don't like to see a guy have a stomach because it's evidence that they like to be couch potatoes drinking beer.
mr.dream merchant Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Make sure you're getting your cardio in at least 3 times a week, 30 minute sessions. Abs to, hit abs 3 times a week. Every other day. Don't workout too many muscles in one day. Try doing each area of muscles once a week. So maybe chest on mondays, shoulders tuesdays, back wednesdays, arms thursdays, and legs fridays. Throw in your cardio and abs wherever.
threebyfate Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 Idk dude, apparently women like height nowadays more than muscle, which actually makes no ****ing sense. They claim they like height in a guy because it means "they're a better protector" and then say they don't like muscles. Is it possible for them to contradict themselves more? That's too funny when broken down like that. It's not that simple. Some of us do prefer height but it's not a dealbreaker. Some of us do prefer less bulky, muscle men, more lean but it's not a dealbreaker. Each individual physical trait when broken down as a stand alone, is rarely a dealbreaker, since individuals are a composite of all their traits, externally and internally.
Clep Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 I don't want my guy to be overweight or too skinny, but lean is nice. I have dated really skinny guys in the past. My son's father is very skinny. I had a muscle bound guy once too who did the steroid thing and he wasn't any more attractive than anyone else. My guy now is lean with a nice build. I go for the personality more than anything else. I want to be treated well above all else.
Thebob Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 why do ugly guys get hot chicks? cause they have confidence and know how to talk to women. Working out does help and women do like a solid looking body that looks like you keep in shape, but some don't give a rats ass. Do what you want and what makes you feel good. Thebob
paperchase Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 I used to be a very good athlete. I played several sports and my weight fluctuated from as high as 181 to as low as 137 depending on the sport I was playing. My natural weight is about 155 without dieting and when I drop to 150 I have a very defined 6 pack without any working out. I'm 5'8" for reference. I believe working out for looks (as opposed to confidence or endorphins) is very overrated unless your goal as a man is to be stocky. And for women, no offense, diet will go much farther in making you more attractive than hitting the treadmill or pumping iron. If people would just reduce their intake considerably, they could have the body they had in high school when their metabolism was much higher. All that cardio can't compete with eliminating carbs for example, not that I'm a proponent of a low carb diet. Anyway, I really don't like the way I look at 180, even when ripped. It's too stocky on my frame. I don't want to look like one of those muscle bound short guys and I don't want to live in the gym to stay firm else the bulk can get flabby. So I prefer to remain slim. It keeps me younger looking and naturally ripped because once you shed the bulk/fat, all you see are muscles and that look does not require gym time. A few situps and pushups every other day at most and you look great. Also, my clothes fit perfect off the rack and I look better proportioned. When I bulked up a while back my mom said you don't want to be short and fat you'll look like a thumb. She said: a pinky's the same height as a thumb but it looks much taller. That wasn't nice, but it was true. The trend right now is away from big and bulky bodies as thin is in for both men and women. Look at the sex symbols of both genders. Finally, in terms of working out body parts, if you have great abs women will notice. It's impressive because not many people have them. I always laugh at men with a big chest whose stomach protrudes just as much as their pecks. I'd stay away from a big chest unless you also plan to get big legs. Nothing worse than a huge chest walking around on stilts. I realize everyone has their preferences but I think there are major advantages to being slim and cut especially if you are not tall. A real tall guy needs to have more meat on his bones or he risks being viewed as skinny or scrawny. Just my two cents.
fral945 Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 It will probably not make much of a difference when you're looking for a girl, in comparison to your style and demeanor. However, when you get to the point when you're in a relationship, she will probably initiate sex more. Either way, can't hurt and there are some HOT women in gyms. Have fun! +1. This has been my experience as a somewhat lean, muscular man for the last few years. You get a few more smiles here and there and the occasional compliment, but it doesn't seem to be a major deal. Honestly, I think I get more comments from women about how I smell, dress, and my dimples rather than my muscles. I figure it doesn't hurt, though. It's a good addition to have in your overall package, assuming you've got other good qualities already in place.
betamanlet Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Personality and game are WAAY more important than muscles. I've been completely ripped, strong as hell, go to the gym at least 4x a week, and was a virgin, meanwhile my friends who had guts and manboobs constantly had girlfriends and I was a mid twenties virgin.... Game is more important.
sumdude Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) First of all men are now just as inundated as women with images of how we should look. You look at the male models on the front of many mens magazines and you see those super ripped abs etc. Those men are professionals! They spend almost as much time working on their bodies as we do at our jobs. You'll see similar guys at any gym. They're there almost every night of the week for at least two hours. They measure every single calorie they intake, go for steroids and the whole 9. But what else do they do with their lives? They're not professional athletes. Don't try to compare yourself with those allegedly perfect images. That's like under 10% body fat which is incredibly difficult to attain and maintain. As far as bulking up? Go for full body toning instead. It will look right on your frame and some people just won't bulk up much however much they try and it doesn't make that much difference to most women. Genetically I'm built like a truck. Tree trunk legs and a barrel chest. Some women like it and some don't. Most appreciate me for who I am. I can put on muscle pretty easily.. I can put on fat just as easily if not easier. So my challenge is more keeping my weight down where some men can't put it on. Edited October 29, 2009 by sumdude
betamanlet Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 First of all men are now just as inundated as women with images of how we should look. You look at the male models on the front of many mens magazines and you see those super ripped abs etc. Those men are professionals! They spend almost as much time working on their bodies as we do at our jobs. You'll see similar guys at any gym. They're there almost every night of the week for at least two hours. They measure every single calorie they intake, go for steroids and the whole 9. But what else do they do with their lives? They're not professional athletes. Don't try to compare yourself with those allegedly perfect images. That's like under 10% body fat which is incredibly difficult to attain and maintain. As far as bulking up? Go for full body toning instead. It will look right on your frame and some people just won't bulk up much however much they try and it doesn't make that much difference to most women. Genetically I'm built like a truck. Tree trunk legs and a barrel chest. Some women like it and some don't. Most appreciate me for who I am. I can put on muscle pretty easily.. I can put on fat just as easily if not easier. So my challenge is more keeping my weight down where some men can't put it on. YOu can get to be big without steroids. I lifted for years, and you just become big. I'm not grotesque body builder type, but I look like an athlete despite my vertical challenge of being 5'10.
threebyfate Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Media images, showing cut models, have also been photoshopped, although male models must maintain a certain lean and fit look, for clothing to fall on them, just like a clothing hanger.
sumdude Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 YOu can get to be big without steroids. I lifted for years, and you just become big. I'm not grotesque body builder type, but I look like an athlete despite my vertical challenge of being 5'10. Of course you can, still the time investment to get that ripped is pretty serious. As well as the constant calorie management.
betamanlet Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Of course you can, still the time investment to get that ripped is pretty serious. As well as the constant calorie management. Well, weight lifting is a long term, rest of life type deal. It develop my chest to have huge pecs. if I ever stop lifting weights now, my pecs will turn from muscle into fat, and will be moobs instead. So I'm kinda screwed. I better not get injured or I'll have some problems.
paperchase Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Well, weight lifting is a long term, rest of life type deal. It develop my chest to have huge pecs. if I ever stop lifting weights now, my pecs will turn from muscle into fat, and will be moobs instead. So I'm kinda screwed. I better not get injured or I'll have some problems. This is exactly my issue with lifting. If you develop lots of muscle mass you must continue to lift. If you shed lots of mass and stay lean, you only have to watch your diet. By the way, you are not vertically challenged at 5'10". That's ridiculous.
phineas Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 You look at the male models on the front of many mens magazines and you see those super ripped abs etc. I also wonder what the hell is in their speedo / underwear. Looks like a large sweet potato. I mean seriously, what is that?
phineas Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Well, weight lifting is a long term, rest of life type deal. It develop my chest to have huge pecs. if I ever stop lifting weights now, my pecs will turn from muscle into fat, and will be moobs instead. So I'm kinda screwed. I better not get injured or I'll have some problems. Actually I was huge in my early 20's then stopped working out & got fat. The reason I got fat wasn't because I stopped working out, it was because I kept eating & drinking like I always did & the lack of exercise & muscle mass meant I wasn't burning those calories off. It doesn't matter what your body type is, if you don't adjust your caloric intake to your lean muscle mass your going to get fat.
AD1980 Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 I used to be a very good athlete. I played several sports and my weight fluctuated from as high as 181 to as low as 137 depending on the sport I was playing. My natural weight is about 155 without dieting and when I drop to 150 I have a very defined 6 pack without any working out. I'm 5'8" for reference. I believe working out for looks (as opposed to confidence or endorphins) is very overrated unless your goal as a man is to be stocky. And for women, no offense, diet will go much farther in making you more attractive than hitting the treadmill or pumping iron. If people would just reduce their intake considerably, they could have the body they had in high school when their metabolism was much higher. All that cardio can't compete with eliminating carbs for example, not that I'm a proponent of a low carb diet. Anyway, I really don't like the way I look at 180, even when ripped. It's too stocky on my frame. I don't want to look like one of those muscle bound short guys and I don't want to live in the gym to stay firm else the bulk can get flabby. So I prefer to remain slim. It keeps me younger looking and naturally ripped because once you shed the bulk/fat, all you see are muscles and that look does not require gym time. A few situps and pushups every other day at most and you look great. Also, my clothes fit perfect off the rack and I look better proportioned. When I bulked up a while back my mom said you don't want to be short and fat you'll look like a thumb. She said: a pinky's the same height as a thumb but it looks much taller. That wasn't nice, but it was true. The trend right now is away from big and bulky bodies as thin is in for both men and women. Look at the sex symbols of both genders. Finally, in terms of working out body parts, if you have great abs women will notice. It's impressive because not many people have them. I always laugh at men with a big chest whose stomach protrudes just as much as their pecks. I'd stay away from a big chest unless you also plan to get big legs. Nothing worse than a huge chest walking around on stilts. I realize everyone has their preferences but I think there are major advantages to being slim and cut especially if you are not tall. A real tall guy needs to have more meat on his bones or he risks being viewed as skinny or scrawny. Just my two cents. Yeah were the same height and i only way around 160-165 which i thought was too scrawny but the few times i added a little weight it just didst look right i dont have that type of frame plus it makes me look shorter.. Im fine at the 160 area
OpenGL Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Body type has a lot to do with it... I'm about the same height as you guys, weigh 140, and get nothing but complements on my body, even though on paper it sounds skinny.
sumdude Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Body type has a lot to do with it... I'm about the same height as you guys, weigh 140, and get nothing but complements on my body, even though on paper it sounds skinny. Yeah I'm 5' 10" and around 220. Could still stand to lose about 10 - 20 but I'm just a big frame type. To get down there I'd have to eat next to nothing.
UrKillinMeSmalls Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 does it make a big difference to ladies or is it just a minor thing Many will say it doesn't make a difference, but that's false. Don't listen to what a girl says, watch what she does instead. Other traits aside, she will always prefer a muscular guy over a lardo or a beanpole. And why wouldn't she? Sure there are a few girls that truely don't care, but they are not the majority at all.
Thornton Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Looking good is always a plus. Of course you also have to be nice, kind, fun and all the rest of it; good looks alone are not enough. However looking good is a big step in the right direction when it comes to whether someone is attracted to you or not... and it's very attractive if you work out and have some muscles. It also shows that you have some self respect and don't just sit around all the time. I wouldn't say that being fit is absolutely essential, but why miss out on a positive trait that you could easily acquire?
eiithan Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 I did not read the entire threads, but want to point out one thing. Be careful. Thinking that the intense workout/staying buffed will get you hot women is a dangerous thing to do. There are men who end up developing a whole set of obsessiveness over workout and more often than not, when they stop following the strict workout regimen and start to lose muscles/weight, they fall into depression. A good dosage of exercise is good because it keeps you physically AND mentally healthy (as stress reliever). You can spend the rest of your free time in developing other important personal qualities. Personally six packs do not impress me...they are a bit too intense for my liking. As long as there is no oversized belly that comes between the guy and I when we hug, I am happy with a normal build
bluestraps Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 It depends on the woman. I wouldnt worry about it, But why go through life not being satisfied with your own appearance. I think most women would like good muscle tone and not a huge mass of muscles. You could do a regimen of Push ups which is suposed to be good for the chest and arms. Also sit ups too but make sure you do them right. This would not cost you anything realy, also eat well.
phineas Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 when I lived in the gym I used slap on my favorite cologn. Desperation. The women just didn't care for it. When I got older & didn't have a lot of time for the gym I had other things to keep mr busy women didn't become as important & I stopped trying so hard. I left the Desperation on the shelf & had much better luck with the ladies. Sans sleeve busting biceps.
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