627 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 and no not talking about body builder muscles and training with 5 protein meals a day and 3 testosterone shots a week I am talking about the nice chest nice abs somewhat big biceps muscles that generaly everyone agrees look good how much of a plus are these for women if men have them? training at the gym to get these muscles(without any synthetic vitamins and stuff) takes like 2 years of devotion, money and pain. I'd like to know how much it is worth it does it make a big difference to ladies or is it just a minor thing thanks in advance
NewSmyrnaBeach Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Exercise is something you do to sleep well and stay in good shape for your health. It is a way you blow off steam. It is a lifestyle choice. You don't do it just because you think it will make you more marketable in the dating scene. If you try to do it for that reason then you probably won't stick with it.
Author 627 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Posted October 24, 2009 Exercise is something you do to sleep well and stay in good shape for your health. It is a way you blow off steam. It is a lifestyle choice. You don't do it just because you think it will make you more marketable in the dating scene. If you try to do it for that reason then you probably won't stick with it. I'm already doing it but this would be an extra motive
mark982 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 you aren't gonna get your,big arms nice chest, abs w/o your protein.
Author 627 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Posted October 24, 2009 you aren't gonna get your,big arms nice chest, abs w/o your protein. yeah but I mean I won't be making these recipes of pure proteins and stuff I'm still consuming protein in food and I do eat alot(I walk everynight to keep from gaining fat) so far, no one is answering my original question
Ruby Slippers Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 They're pretty meaningless without intelligence, a good heart, a great personality, and all that long-term potential stuff to go along with them. But if all that's in place, they are some very nice icing on the man cake. In other words, not a deal-breaker, and not enough for me to choose to be with a guy who lacks important internal qualities, but they do have a way of gettin' a girl all hot and bothered.
Author 627 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Posted October 24, 2009 They're pretty meaningless without intelligence, a good heart, a great personality, and all that long-term potential stuff to go along with them. But if all that's in place, they are some very nice icing on the man cake. In other words, not a deal-breaker, and not enough for me to choose to be with a guy who lacks important internal qualities, but they do have a way of gettin' a girl all hot and bothered. and you assume I am not all these things? being nice and having a good personnality is what keeps the relationship but at first sight, she is not going to know I am an awesome nice guy very generous and honest bla bla bla lets face it, at first sight and for the first 2 to 3 meetings, what is going to encourage a woman to get to know me better is what I look like. lets also face it, good looking jerks are getting way more women than the nice good hearted library geeks who would give their lives for their girlfriends(if they had been given the chance) you can be the awesomest person in the world, but if you don't look attractive, no one will scratch you to find that out and so my question remains
miss_sapphire Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Depends on the girl. I'm a body kind of girl, so nice arms more important than face lol! This is assuming you have all the good internal qualities of course I work out a lot myself so would prefer a guy who enjoys physical activities. Plus I'm used to seeing muscly men walking around lol! To another girl having a good body might be less important.
Arabella Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 It's not a deal-breaker for me. It has never been, even when I was younger and I was incredibly fit because I was a swimmer and was used to dating other very fit, toned swimmers. Now, I'm not going to say I don't appreciate it ... because that'd be a lie But if anything, the important part is that it shows the person has some sense of self-image and is not a couch potato. Which to me it's more about the lifestyle choice than what the guy actually looks like. Does that make sense? Arabella
Chicago_Guy Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 and no not talking about body builder muscles and training with 5 protein meals a day and 3 testosterone shots a week I am talking about the nice chest nice abs somewhat big biceps muscles that generaly everyone agrees look good how much of a plus are these for women if men have them? training at the gym to get these muscles(without any synthetic vitamins and stuff) takes like 2 years of devotion, money and pain. I'd like to know how much it is worth it does it make a big difference to ladies or is it just a minor thing thanks in advance It's a plus and will probably give you more confidence when you meet women. Be sure to lift your legs, as a lot of women do check out a man's lower half.
aerogurl87 Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Well for me I don't like guys who look like the gym is their second home. If a guy has a flat or near flat stomach and a little bit of muscle then I'm happy. But if he looks like he might be a wannabe model then usually I'll avoid him like the plague. But that's just me.
Awesome Username Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 It will probably not make much of a difference when you're looking for a girl, in comparison to your style and demeanor. However, when you get to the point when you're in a relationship, she will probably initiate sex more. Either way, can't hurt and there are some HOT women in gyms. Have fun!
TheLoneSock Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) and no not talking about body builder muscles and training with 5 protein meals a day and 3 testosterone shots a week I am talking about the nice chest nice abs somewhat big biceps muscles that generaly everyone agrees look good how much of a plus are these for women if men have them? training at the gym to get these muscles(without any synthetic vitamins and stuff) takes like 2 years of devotion, money and pain. I'd like to know how much it is worth it does it make a big difference to ladies or is it just a minor thing thanks in advance It makes a little bit of a difference, but not as much as you'd think. Women just like to be with someone they feel protected by, and it also doesn't hurt for eye candy purposes either. Other things matter a lot more. But in regards, A) It doesn't take two years, unless you half ass it B) If you're working out just to have a nice upper body in the hopes women will be more attracted to you, you're doing it for the wrong reasons- which also effects your drive to reach whatever goals you've set for yourself. Athletes see such good results because they are TRAINING their entire body, for a purpose. They aren't just lifting weights a few times a week trying to get a nicer chest and bicepts, and they aren't pushing steroids and 5 meals a day. You get out of it what you put in. If you want to get some serious muscle gain, pick up a sport and train for that sport. Even if it's just a hobby, you will see better results. No offense to you personally, but your mindset is that of a guy that will never see the results you want because your not training correctly or for the right purpose, and you probably don't understand how the body works. Atleast nnroll in a health and wellness, or weight training class at your local community college- it's only 3 credit hours a week and they'll teach you how to train your body. I don't have PM rights yet, otherwise I'd help you out. My IM info however is in my profile if you want a little help and you're serious. Edited October 25, 2009 by TheLoneSock
You'reasian Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 and no not talking about body builder muscles and training with 5 protein meals a day and 3 testosterone shots a week I am talking about the nice chest nice abs somewhat big biceps muscles that generaly everyone agrees look good how much of a plus are these for women if men have them? training at the gym to get these muscles(without any synthetic vitamins and stuff) takes like 2 years of devotion, money and pain. I'd like to know how much it is worth it does it make a big difference to ladies or is it just a minor thing thanks in advance Women seem to like us guys to be fit or cut. Think olympic sprinter or a triathlete. Women seem turned off by bulky bodybuilder type physiques, but some like that.
IrishCarBomb Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 and you assume I am not all these things? I have no idea how you come to that conclusion based on what Ruby Slippers posted. at first sight, she is not going to know I am an awesome nice guy very generous and honest bla bla bla True, but wit tends to work just as well (if not better) than muscles. I've found my humor and wit generate more interest initially than my muscles. Cheers.
SoulSearch_CO Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 The most recent guy I dated was in the best physical shape of any guy I have ever dated. Before him, I really didn't care all that much about the pecs and abs. I do like me some nice arm muscles, though - always have. They, along with some great lats make me swoon. Now - for the most recent guy I dated, he had solid-rock pecs that were the first I laid my hands on. Ooooh, wow. It's not a dealbreaker, really - but it is definitely an extra little "kick" in the right direction. I guess to clarify your original question...let's say two guys are equally good-looking, intelligent, well-balanced, established, mature, etc, etc, etc... but one has more well-defined muscles? Yeah. I think it's a given. Aero - I used to agree with you about the "avoid like the plague." That guy was so definitely not the type I usually go for because he has a very sexy muscled body. But given the chance again, I'd go for "that type." LOL
aerogurl87 Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 I guess to clarify your original question...let's say two guys are equally good-looking, intelligent, well-balanced, established, mature, etc, etc, etc... but one has more well-defined muscles? Yeah. I think it's a given. Aero - I used to agree with you about the "avoid like the plague." That guy was so definitely not the type I usually go for because he has a very sexy muscled body. But given the chance again, I'd go for "that type." LOL SoulSearch I dated a very muscular guy before too and well it was really nice I must say, lol. But the reason that happened was because he didn't talk about working out 24/7. In my experience though about 90% of the guys who have impeccable abs and really nice, big, and muscular arms talk about the gym way too much for my liking. Don't get me wrong, I keep in shape by dancing alot but I can't stand someone who is gym obsessed since I HATE gyms. So if it comes down to the guy who's in shape with a decent body or the guy who's ripped and goes to the gym almost every day, I'd go with the guy with the decent bod.
edinsvet Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 All women will say this is not important. I think they just don't believe that yes they are as simple minded as us men. Maybe there is some truth to the fact that if you are incredibly handsome and thin they will like you with or without muscles. But you are still better off being buff. I work out most of the time, and when I am not in shape. I can say 100% it definitely effects my game negatively. Also when I am in the best shape women will come up to me and hit on me. It is definitely worth the effort. And I cannot see how it would not improve things for you or any guy. Having a great body for a guy is the same thing like having a great body for a woman. How do you feel about a girl with a nice chest and behind vs. one with a dumpy figure that is not taking care of herself? Even if I am wrong you will still feel much better about yourself so what have you got to lose.
NewSmyrnaBeach Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) It's funny to read what you girls are posting about guys that go to the gym. I go 4-5 days a week but from what I have noticed, the majority of the people in there are miserable douchebags/douchebaggettes trying to make up for something they lack in their personality or another area. I put my headphones on and don't talk to anyone. Most of them are single and have absolutely no idea why anyone would not claw through a concrete wall to be with them. I even avoid talking about going to the gym because I don't want to be grouped in with those idiots. Some of them even wear sunglasses inside the gym! Awesome. I would say that if you are working out just to try to get laid then you can probably go ahead and classify yourself in the group that I just mentioned. I see much happier people when I go surfing after work than I ever see in a gym but if I don't do something after work then I don't sleep that well. Edited October 25, 2009 by NewSmyrnaBeach
Author 627 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Posted October 25, 2009 why is everyone tryign to analyse my personnality no I am not making up for what I lack in personnality I have a very likable personnality but I'm young, I see my life ahead of me, I want to improve on many levels, including this one without neglecting anything else
Lauriebell82 Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 I think it just depends on the woman. Some like athletic guys, some don't. I personally LOVE muscular guys and I love that my fiance is one of them. However, there are lots of other attributes that make a man appealing to a woman. My advice though, don't try to bulk up JUST to score better with the ladies. Do it for yourself.
Lauriebell82 Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 It's funny to read what you girls are posting about guys that go to the gym. I go 4-5 days a week but from what I have noticed, the majority of the people in there are miserable douchebags/douchebaggettes trying to make up for something they lack in their personality or another area. I put my headphones on and don't talk to anyone. Most of them are single and have absolutely no idea why anyone would not claw through a concrete wall to be with them. I even avoid talking about going to the gym because I don't want to be grouped in with those idiots. Some of them even wear sunglasses inside the gym! Awesome. I would say that if you are working out just to try to get laid then you can probably go ahead and classify yourself in the group that I just mentioned. I see much happier people when I go surfing after work than I ever see in a gym but if I don't do something after work then I don't sleep that well. WHAT??? That's rediculous. Being in shape and wanting a nice body doesn't make you a douchebag/douchebaggette. I think you are being very judgemental. why is everyone tryign to analyse my personnality no I am not making up for what I lack in personnality I have a very likable personnality but I'm young, I see my life ahead of me, I want to improve on many levels, including this one without neglecting anything else Don't worry about it, wanting to improve your physique and get in shape is not a crime!
mr.dream merchant Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 You'll find it quite common on this board of people to fill in spaces in your statements you left open with some form of wannabe psychologist talk where they'll try and analize your personality, tell you why you're failing at the dating game, and what you "SHOULD" do. Take it with a grain of salt, and as advice nonetheless. But know that alot of the hostility and judgemental posters are just leaking out their own insecurities and personal problems that originally led them to this board in the first place, into their posts in reply to your thread. Now. Muscle bound are we? First and foremost, try to do it for yourself. If you are, then good. Second, everyone appreciates a nice physique. Females maybe not so much as us guys (Can we say nice toned fat ass and some nicely shaped tits? Coke bottle shape? Mmm hmmm). Females are just the same, they like guys who are in shape. Its a normal and natural feature that comes equipped with human beings lol.. Are you shooting to bulk up? Or are you looking to put on a lean muscular size and cut down your fat percentage?
threebyfate Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Two years sounds a bit long. If you're currently thin to average, it should take you a lot less time but yes, devotion to a healthy lifestyle, is necessary. You are what you eat. I don't like pumped up men. Toned is necessary. Cut is a nice bonus. But intelligence, integrity and personality trumps everything. Drop-dead gorgeous men can become ugly as sin, if they lack the three elements. Looks gets you the initial look. Staying healthy and relatively physically attractive, keeps the sexual chemistry going, since being healthy not only keeps your partner attracted, it also can help your testosterone level, reliant on type of exercise. Weights keep your testosterone levels up.
Lauriebell82 Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Two years sounds a bit long. If you're currently thin to average, it should take you a lot less time but yes, devotion to a healthy lifestyle, is necessary. You are what you eat. Well, it kind of depends on how muscular the OP wants to get. If he wants to get ripped (abs, biceps, ect) it will take a few years of consistent body building at the gym.
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