627 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 is there a way for someone to know if they look attractive or not? it might be easier for women to know how good they look, since they are the ones getting approached and getting the compliments how is a guy supposed to get a clue if he looks right or not? and this really has to do with confidence for me, most of the times I approach women with the idea of "she's the goddess of beauty and I am the unworthy one" I think I'd have more confidence if I knew where I stood (reminder, I'm a 20 year old noob at the whole dating concept) so is there a way to know?
Awesome Username Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Different looks are popular in different places, but as far as I know the traditional "tall, dark, and handsome" does it. One understated thing that usually always attracts women is a smooth, deep voice as well. What kind of look are you rocking now?
Author 627 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 I'm looking for specifics or so I'm tall, not sure exactly how tall, I am around 6 feet, 6 feet 2 inches(doesn't seem to be doing me any good) 208 pounds maybe(my weight changes according to exam dates and free times ) define dark and handsome I don't have any flaws in my face, I have big brown eyes I'd post a pic but the whole point in registering as 627 is to keep myself as anonymous as possible but this is not about just me, guys in general, what should we be looking for? I've been told about body language and signs to look for but so far, I don't notice women giving out any signs to me that they wouldn't be giving to any other guy on our table/classroom etc... andI can't ask a girl friend about this cause no one is ever gonna tell you if there is something wrong with you, on the other hand, no one would ever compliment a guy on anything regarding looks (not even a new haircut )
Lizzie60 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I'm afraid there is no way to know how attractive you really are.... and it's for everyone.. Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.. I've seen people on here and in RL.. who think they are cute/attractive.. but I find them almost repulsive.. so .. go figure.. Eveyone is used to their face.. they have seen it all their life.. so IMO.. they do not really know if they are ugly.... One can tell they are 'cute', let's say a 6/10.. but some think they are 8-9/10... hummm... I don't think so.. not in my taste.. but I am extremely picky.. The only way to tell would be to see you in a picture..
Awesome Username Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Well, it sounds like you have everything in order over there! I can't tell you the truth without a pic, but you're free to ask whatever.
Johnny M Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 is there a way for someone to know if they look attractive or not? it might be easier for women to know how good they look, since they are the ones getting approached and getting the compliments how is a guy supposed to get a clue if he looks right or not? and this really has to do with confidence for me, most of the times I approach women with the idea of "she's the goddess of beauty and I am the unworthy one" I think I'd have more confidence if I knew where I stood (reminder, I'm a 20 year old noob at the whole dating concept) so is there a way to know? Wow...is this a serious question? Yes, of course there is a way to know. While women may have preferences for certain things (i.e. eye and hair color), many characteristics of the male physique are universally attractive, such as: 1) Above-average height 2) Athletic physique: broad shoulders, muscular build (though not overly so - most women are not attracted to the juice head look), no flab around the waste area 3) Symmetrical and proportionate facial features (things like big and/or crooked nose, eyes that are too close or too wide apart, "dumbo years", etc. are all bad) 4) Good hair 5) Good teeth Basically, you need to compare your physical characteristics to those of the average male in your geographic area. The bolded part is very important because "good looks" is a relative concept....it all depends on how you rate compared to other men in your region. So if, for example, the average man in your country was significantly uglier than the average European or North American, you could be average or even ugly by western standards, yet still quite handsome by your local standards....and vice versa. So keep that in mind.
Author 627 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 I know about local standarts thingy, it applies to females too. I often find women I like going out with guys that I think are less good looking than I am, and that kinda confuses me about athletic physic it's not something you can just acquire, it needs 2 3 years of going to the gym http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v356/59/100/675597747/n675597747_830542_5276.jpg it's a 2 years old pic(I don't get my pic taken often, this was for a school project) I had my eyebrows zapped 3 times since then
New Again Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I often find women I like going out with guys that I think are less good looking than I am, and that kinda confuses me So.....it sounds like you already have a pretty good idea of how attractive you are (or aren't, as the case may be), since you believe yourself to be more attractive than the men women you like date. I think that women tend to date guys based way more on personality than looks.
Lizzie60 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I"m sure that your eyebrows make a big difference.. I'd be curious to see the 'after' pic.. but from that pic.. I don't see why you're having problems.. you're not an Adonis.. but you're certainly a fairly good looking kid.. work on your self confidence.. that works more than looks..
boogieboy Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 627 you generally can be judged on looks by the guys you hang around with, and the women you fraternize with in that crowd. Thats where your league is. But confidence is an aura and a state of mind, so the more confidence you have, the more chance you have of pushing out of your league. Only double edge sword about confidence and dating is, you have to be dating to know youre datable. or you have to enjoy walking up to women cold and striking up conversations. That usually gets confidence going.
Author 627 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) So.....it sounds like you already have a pretty good idea of how attractive you are (or aren't, as the case may be), since you believe yourself to be more attractive than the men women you like date. well they'd be shorter, less caring, less intelligent that's what I compare when I lose a girl to someone who has repeated the ninth grade twice. that's realy discouraging Edited October 19, 2009 by 627
Johnny M Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I know about local standarts thingy, it applies to females too. I often find women I like going out with guys that I think are less good looking than I am, and that kinda confuses me about athletic physic it's not something you can just acquire, it needs 2 3 years of going to the gym http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v356/59/100/675597747/n675597747_830542_5276.jpg it's a 2 years old pic(I don't get my pic taken often, this was for a school project) I had my eyebrows zapped 3 times since then I have to be honest...your facial symmetry is no the greatest but hey, you've got to work with what you've got. The good news is that your face is just one aspect of your physical appearance. Height is generally very important to women and if you're over 6', that's definitely a good thing. You're also not overweight, and could acquire an athletic physique if you started working out regularly (which I highly recommend - not only will it may you more attractive to women, but it will also give you a confidence boost). Speaking of facial features, while you can't drastically change them without extensive plastic surgery (which I don't recommend), you can improve things significantly by picking a haircut that suits you. You may also want to grow a bit of facial hair to to see how it augments your features.
ecm Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Your pic is cute. I'm glad you mentioned your eyebrows b/c I'm not sure I wanted to be the one to tell you they are an easy fix. Some people are hot but when you get to know them, they seem ugly. Some people are ok looking and grow on you. So, it depends who you're dealing with. Some people think some MODELS are ugly, so eh. Do YOU think everyone's hot? Probable not, right? So, you'll know when someone is attracted to you by the way they flirt or act around you. I'm guessing you have to work on your confidence, too. It can make all the difference in the world when you approach someone. Good luck
Author 627 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 ok thank you everyone I gess I need to simply take more risks and see how much I can get
boogieboy Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 ok thank you everyone I gess I need to simply take more risks and see how much I can get Increase your numbers and increase your chances.
burning 4 revenge Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Well dont treat girls like "goddesses of beauty" for one thing they dont really respect that. They like to know they are attractive and so communicate that in more subtle ways Also dont grow a long smelly beard like those jamokes in Hizbollah thats a sure fire turn off. In fact Id do the opposite and compliment US foreign policy and 19th and 20th Century British and French imperialism as much as possible as well as the state of Israel as I think the girls there would respond to your courage and your respect for women's rights Be vocal about it as publically as you possibly can be And good things about the eyebrows Edited October 20, 2009 by burning 4 revenge
AD1980 Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 Its cliche to say but beauty is in the eye of the beholder in that some girls will think your hot and some will vomit at the site of you thats just how women are.. I know im not attractive im 5'8 165 lb's got an italian nose i dont have the height or the light hair or eye colot most women want i accept that most women who meet me will not find me attractive.. Does it sucks soemtimes yeah but im sitillgonna stay the psoitive fun loving person iam and if im nto attratcive eough for most women then its their loss frankly is how i look at it..
Pedigree Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 so is there a way to know? This might be quite an unorthodox way to find out, but I usually gauge it by reaction from girls who are attached (eg. friend's girlfriend, cousin's girlfriend) or people like parents' friends. If my cousin doesn't look half bad and if his gf's reaction when she met me was "I can tell you're related to him, good looks run in your family", then I probably don't look half bad. With the latter, I get told I'm "handsome" all the time since I was just a little baby. Since I get it consistently, then I probably got something right with my appearance. If that sounds like you, start believing in what they say.
Author 627 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 Well dont treat girls like "goddesses of beauty" for one thing they dont really respect that. They like to know they are attractive and so communicate that in more subtle ways Also dont grow a long smelly beard like those jamokes in Hizbollah thats a sure fire turn off. In fact Id do the opposite and compliment US foreign policy and 19th and 20th Century British and French imperialism as much as possible as well as the state of Israel as I think the girls there would respond to your courage and your respect for women's rights Be vocal about it as publically as you possibly can be And good things about the eyebrows went a bit far there, this is not a political debate, but I will answer just so you'd know, I fully support women's right just a side note(we can make a seperate thread if anyone is interested) biggest obstacle to women's right in the arab world are the women themselves, there are no feminist movements in my country, and I even looked, it's not there. you can try and talk to women about the right to have sex outside of marriage and that no one has the right to threaten them or critisize them about it, and you can speak to them about equal rights and the right to give her children her last name in case there is no husband(legaly it is not possible here) and these women will be the first to critisize you and reject what you say, it's not a problem related to muslims, it's also for christians(people take the bible very very vey seriously here) and other beliefes... and believe me I tried my opinion regarding politics is my own I will only say that I am against any act of harming unarmed citizens, regardless of what side they are on or the country they belong to, I'm closer to being against every policy that exists till today PS: I hate beards and all facial hair but around here, it seems popular, in fact most who have girfriends have beards not a santa clause style but short ones... so not sure it is a turn off, maybe it fits for some people Its cliche to say but beauty is in the eye of the beholder this saying does not apply much evidence is that you find 2 3 guys arguing over one girl, or the opposite girls arguing over this oen guy, while the rest are available and no one is interested This might be quite an unorthodox way to find out, but I usually gauge it by reaction from girls who are attached (eg. friend's girlfriend, cousin's girlfriend) or people like parents' friends. If my cousin doesn't look half bad and if his gf's reaction when she met me was "I can tell you're related to him, good looks run in your family", then I probably don't look half bad. With the latter, I get told I'm "handsome" all the time since I was just a little baby. Since I get it consistently, then I probably got something right with my appearance. If that sounds like you, start believing in what they say. I'm the younguest cousin all my male cousins are 30 years old and above and married already and I don't trust the judgement of relatives neighbors and friends, there is nothing easier than to tell soene he looks good when you don't actualy think so
AD1980 Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 this saying does not apply much evidence is that you find 2 3 guys arguing over one girl, or the opposite girls arguing over this oen guy, while the rest are available and no one is interested 2 or 3 guys fightign over 1 girl is evidence? How?? Of course their are people more attractive to the opposite sex but very few are found attractive by everyone,my only point is for most people theryes gonna be people attracted to you and people who arent thats how the world works.. In some cases you may be right a group of men or wonen fight over the same few guys i think thats even more prevalent with women But the majority of people you see in the street together are quite average so if everyone is waiting on a 9 or a 10 liek you are saying their would be no relationships sicne the majority of us arent 9 or 10's
Author 627 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 2 or 3 guys fightign over 1 girl is evidence? How?? Of course their are people more attractive to the opposite sex but very few are found attractive by everyone,my only point is for most people theryes gonna be people attracted to you and people who arent thats how the world works.. In some cases you may be right a group of men or wonen fight over the same few guys i think thats even more prevalent with women But the majority of people you see in the street together are quite average so if everyone is waiting on a 9 or a 10 liek you are saying their would be no relationships sicne the majority of us arent 9 or 10's yeah I guess you're right I wish I were in the minority of the good looking people but given that some willl find you attractive and others won't, and vice versa what are the odds of you ending up with someone you ike, and that someone likes you back? I never understood how that worked for some people, I've always fallen for girls, whome as I say, if they liked me as half as much as I liked them, they would have been very different around me or is it that I should date first and emotions come later?
LexiB Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 ...you can improve things significantly by picking a haircut that suits you. You may also want to grow a bit of facial hair to to see how it augments your features. Totally agree with this advice. I think you have a good canvas to work with that just needs a bit of tweaking. For starters, glad to read that you took care of those eyebrows! I looked at the pic while holding my pen up to the screen to cover them up () and it was a MAJOR improvement. Additionally, as Johnny mentioned, I strongly suggest a new hairstyle - it would make a WORLD of difference. Your face is a little too long/rectangular to pull off a buzz cut like you have going on in that picture. Longer hair would suit you soooooooo much better. To give you a specific example, I'm thinking of something like this: http://multipleverses.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jared8.jpg if it's possible for your hair type. Good Luck! and FYI: Jared Padalecki pretty much summarizes ALL of the features any woman would find attractive (just darken the skin tone for every other woman).
Author 627 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 long hair is not in style here for guys plus it's not something easy to try you're suggesting letting my hair grow for like 3 month, just to try and it may not work I guess I just don't see myself in that hairstyle ):
LexiB Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 ahh, I overlooked the cultural difference. ok, well the hairstyle is not the end of the world if that's not what's in style in your country. If buzz cuts are what all the girls drool over where you are then I guess you are on the right track w/ that...
Author 627 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 ahh, I overlooked the cultural difference. ok, well the hairstyle is not the end of the world if that's not what's in style in your country. If buzz cuts are what all the girls drool over where you are then I guess you are on the right track w/ that... it's not that I know one or 2 guys with long hair just saying it takes like a year to grow(as I found out ) and till then I will look very silly with half grown hair and then when that year passes, then I get to see if it suits me or not it's just not very practical but I'll ask opinions about that, maybe some of my personnal friends might encourage me to take such a risk
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